The Astrology of Sports: A Super Bowl Special

Hey everyone, this is Adam Elenbaas from Nightlight Astrology, and today I am joined by my buddies Kip and Spencer to discuss this weekend's upcoming Super Bowl matchup. We're going to look at some of the other news in the world of sports. So, most of our focus today will be on the Super Bowl and some of our predictions and thoughts about the Super Bowl. We're even going to look at Rihanna's chart will be fun; she's performing at halftime.

I want to remind everybody if you're new to this particular series that we decided, I think I decided it was sometime over the summer, that it would be nice to do some Astrology of sports episodes, specifically as a way of reaching out to try and meet and bring in more male audience members, we have about 85% of the audience who watches this channel. And broadly speaking, similar numbers in terms of those who are interested in and consume astrology content; in general, most tend to be women. And so that's great, no problem there. But hopefully, try to make some content to bring in more diversity and maybe some astrological topics here that you know will be interesting to women out there who are always telling me, hey, how can I get my husband's more interested or, whatever.

So, but also, just because sports say there are sports fans from all walks of life, and hopefully, people who like sports and astrology will get something out of this. This happens to be a big hobby and passion of mine, Kips and Spencers, outside of our jobs and, you know, our hobby studies and interests in astrology. And so it's also fun to just get together and talk about the astrology of the athletes that we love and the teams that we follow. So, on that note, welcome back. Kip, and welcome back, Spencer; glad to have you guys back to talk about the Super Bowl this weekend.

Adam Elenbaas
I know we're going to spend a bunch of time talking about the Super Bowl. But I feel like I have to start off by telling a story to everybody about some things that have happened since the last episode that we did. One of them was a really valuable lesson for me in the art of divination. So I'm just gonna start off with that story. So you guys remember, last time that we met, we talked about a whole bunch of different things. And we looked at the playoffs and stuff like that. Kip and Spencer both had some really interesting insights over the NFL season that definitely came to fruition; Spencer had a great one on the Super Bowl we're going to talk about in a little bit.

I had been doing pretty well on the season with my horary; I have to look back at my numbers. But I think in I didn't cast for every game. But I think I ended up going something like eight and four. In terms of horary, I got right and wrong. And then once I got wrong, they were really there were some of them were really good lessons in terms of like learning the craft of contest horary and stuff like that. And I shared some of those on Instagram.

But here's what I did with the last one, because I made them, I went to the Vikings playoff game against the Giants. They got beat; it was a close game. But there, the Vikings had basically zero defense show up in the game. And I had done a horary that looked like they would win. And it was like one of those horary stories where you look at it, and you really couldn't make a case for the Giants winning in that horary. It was very, very clear. So I was like, in hindsight, I was like, Well, what, you know, what the heck, what did I get wrong? And then I realized, so once I knew they were going to the playoffs, I cast the I-Ching. And I said How will they do in the playoffs? Overall? And the answer from the I-Ching was the hexagram. That is called decrease, which is basically not a good answer. Right?

So the idea of a pitcher of water being dumped out. It's, like, not a good picture. I cast that horary because I thought, Well, I think overall, they're not going to make it to the Super Bowl, right? Like they're not going to that that divination from the I-Ching to me was very clear, you're not going to win this thing, right? And, but then I thought, well, maybe they'll win the first game, you know, like, maybe they lose in the second or third game. And so maybe they'll win the first game.

So I thought I'll cast a horary for the first game, and I got a dud. So the lesson of that, for me, was that I've learned time and time and time again that you should not ask the same question twice. Even if you think you're making some small variation on the question. I have found time and time again that you should just listen if you ask the Oracle, and you took up, you know, it's almost like, you know, in the ancient world, you might have had to give up like a sheep or a goat or something to get that answer. You know, so I'm not it's not a good idea to just like willy nilly be like, All right, let me just huck one up again from half court and hope this one hits, you know, maybe we'll get past the first round.

So that was a really valuable lesson for me that was a dud chart, I would call it, which might be the way that my teachers have taught me is like, sometimes you'll get a chart, and it just literally just won't work. It's just like it's a picture of the sky. But it's not a significant oracular moment. It's just you thought you were casting a chart in the sky, and it is just giving you a no answer. And it's a bit like the magic eight ball when you shake it. And it sometimes says, you know, I'm not going to talk to you or come again later or something. So, at any rate, that was a really good lesson for me, and hopefully a lesson I can pass on to all of you, which is, you know, in sports horary, or sports divination in general, if you ask a question, don't ask it again, even if you think you're asking some little variation on the question. It's like a legal loophole. I don't recommend it.

Kip
So this reminds me of the first time I ever used tarot cards, and I kind of stopped afterward was actually a deck. My grandfather, my Zaidi, who is deceased, had left to me. And I laid out the big spread. And I was asking whether Donald Trump was going to be elected president, and it wasn't going well. And the final card was the tower. And I was terrified. I just zoomed them all up and put them away. And I was like, oh, geez, that can't be right. And then I subsequently spent the next, like, 18 months looking at the astrology of the election to convince myself that that wasn't going to happen. And nothing could do it.

Spencer
Yeah, I learned. I learned this lesson the hard way through football this year. I was doing it was going which stable of wide receivers I have the week, and I would list each one of them and pull a card for every single receiver. And then sometimes I'm like, I got that I would do, and I do another one like before actual games would start. And yeah, that didn't. So well. That would do it for each position. I'm like, what's running back today?

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, it's funny how, like, one of the things that my the teacher I spent the longest with time was studying horary, John Frawley, one of the things that he has said, and I'm just paraphrasing, but is basically like, yeah, don't forget that it you know, there's when you talk to an Oracle, there should be, there should be something at stake. And there should be a sense of sacrifice and almost like, imagine that. I mean, this isn't really accurate, but almost like imagine that you have a handful of, of tokens. And you can only go to this old tar machine so many times in your life before this old tar machine curses you like and like. So I think there's I don't think that sports. Divination is off-limits. But I think you have to make sure that you have a horse in the race if you're going to do divination, like predictive divination; I think that's much different than looking at charts, like birth charts. And being, you know, having an informed idea about what the archetypes are saying about players or coaches in big games, and sort of deriving from that ideas about what the outcome might be. With divination, you're asking the sky to give you the answer.

And so, to me that there should be something more at stake. And one of the things is that like one of my teachers said that they would literally place bets on the races that they would the horse races that they would call with divination, but not like not big ones. Something just to show the gods like $5 that, like, I've got some skin in the game or whatever. But I think again; I don't think that that's, I think that's something to be done. When you're specifically asking the sky to give you a predictive outcome, I think that it's a little different than archetypal work within birth charts.

Spencer
I think that's a great opportunity disclaimer that this show today is not financial advice. Yeah. This is for entertainment purposes only.

Adam Elenbaas
That's right. And, if you want to bet, if you win, then you should share some with us because of the great knowledge that we gave us. And you should remember what we said when we said that we have no good advice to give you, it's just for entertainment.

Spencer
Well, and I'll say to I'll take this opportunity to, like, you know, maybe make a peace offering to the fans of Philadelphia who tried to hang me up the, you know, back when I posted a little clip of a prediction that I made a few months and yeah, they were encouraging me to have some skin in the game for the detonation.

Adam Elenbaas
You know, their skin in the game is a little different. I want to read what they wrote just because I think that this is like, you know when the celebrities go on the talk shows, and they make them read their hate Twitter's sparkles of gold says to Spencer, who correctly predicted the two teams in the Super Bowl in October's episode. The Eagles and the Chiefs. This is a Philadelphia sports fan who's upset that you also proposed that they will lose the Super Bowl; throw down a $300 sports book and back it up.

Spencer
That's actually Nicholas; what something I can't pronounce his last name. But you know, Nicholas, who's like,

Adam Elenbaas
Oh, is that Polymer Nico Yeah,

Spencer
He's from Philly originally, but I think

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah. This one. This was a good one. Put a stack on your feelings, you fucking nitwit. A little bit more poignant.

Kip
What did he mean?

Spencer
I don't know; is that his vision of putting your money where your mouth is? Like, honestly, I don't actually have any emotional attachment to who wins or loses. I was just, you know, looking at the charts, and I don't actually have anything against Philadelphia or the Chiefs, for that matter. So, you know, for me, this is kind of like a don't shoot the messenger type of thing, right? Where it's like, I'm just the Oracle here.

Adam Elenbaas
I'm not, you know; I think we should get back to shooting the messenger. So I'm gonna, Okay, this one, I'm just kidding. This one says, You see, bro, y'all will never be taken seriously if y'all don't put up kinda like me. But I'm poor, though. I have weekly track records. I don't know what exactly he means by that. I think this guy's actually into astrology on some level. But he is once again chiming in, being like, Oh, you got a correct prediction; you're so awesome. Why don't you put some money into it? So we'll, we'll say again that you can have fun with the astrology of sports and you don't have to put money into it.

Spencer
I think for me, personally, the billing part of it is a slippery slope, like I have, you know, tried to save money for such a long time that, like, you know, I think if we get to gambling for sports purposes, if we have worked really hard for our donor been kind of socking it away, that can get really sticky really quickly. Not saying that there isn't a time and a place for that if you have, you know, an extra resource or something. But for me, I get really are your buttons like, uh, you know, that's cool. If you want to do that. It's not necessarily for me; I just, I'm just having fun with this.

Adam Elenbaas
Okay, well, here's a pop quiz for you guys. Which outer planetary transit would you correlate in the past ten years with the rocket take-off, the launch pad, or the blast-off of sports gambling? Because it's just gone bananas? So what would outer planetary transit be if you had to share Neptune in Pisces?

Spencer
I think that that would work. Yeah, I think because it says hi. That's,

Kip
I mean, I'm willing to say it's Neptune in Pisces and Pluto in Capricorn because the restructuring of it really is a fundamental restructuring of the general system of capital in the United States. But if you look at the history of legalized gambling in the Western world, it's much older than that transit. Actually, I just listened to a really interesting book that did it wasn't based on gambling; it was based just on the deregulation of markets for the benefit of different governmental units and the deleterious effect of the populations based on that, and it mostly was focused on England.

But, needless to say, in England, and especially Australia, we're talking about 30 years now of almost completely deregulated gambling. So I think that the United States, in general, the loosening of some of those structures as far as how we invest our imaginative time, are the places that are outside the structure of the economy is at least as, as we're investing our individual free time. I think that that's the transit because we have legalized weed. We have the expansion of a breweries nation, one I think gambling fits right in there.

Adam Elenbaas
That's interesting. So you'd correlate it with Neptune in Pisces goes back that goes back like, you know what, like 30 years or so. Something like that.

Spencer
Which, traditionally, would you consider associated with gambling? Would you say maybe, Mercury?

Kip
That's my call, but I don't I honestly don't know what that text says. Do you know that, Adam?

Adam Elenbaas
Well, I mean, I think you have different ways of looking at gambling; excessive spending could be a Jupiterian thing. Mercury and Saturn could be some kind of addictive tendency. So I think there's a different combination. I mean, ancient astrologers seem to think a lot in terms of different planetary combinations. So yeah, so some kind of maybe a Mercury, Jupiter, Mercury, Saturn, maybe Jupiter, Venus even different. Yeah, different kinds of ways of expressing the kind of underlying lust and compulsion. I think for me, what I was going to say is I really noticed it when Uranus was in Aries, and not that I actually think I might like Neptune in Pisces better, not that there has to be just one, but you know Uranus in Aries struck me as like a time there was a lot of things that happened while Uranus was in Aries, but it seemed like the legalization of betting and gambling on sports and the freeing up of the sort of barrier put between gambling and sports previously seemed like kind of like a Uranus and Aries thing to me. Like there was a breaking and like a kind of revolution in the world of sports that felt like a Uranus in Aries signature, but yeah, I like Neptune in Pisces as a broader yeah kind of a slow dissolution of a lot of different social traditions

Kip
That's how I look at it. Yeah.

Spencer 16:58
Neptune has somewhat of an aspirational nature to it as well. Would you say, like, as far as like, the dream quality as far as let's create a new reality.

Kip
I feel like they make money gambling too. Is your throne your coins into the ether? Do you know? Yeah, there's those are the ones who lose when

Adam Elenbaas
I feel like we can't leave Uranus out because Bitcoin also seemed to be correlated with Uranus going into Taurus. And I feel like there's something around like financial regulations and greater freedom around the markets and stuff like that feels like there's a uranium input coming from some, you know, some of those transits. Well, anyway,

Kip
I definitely go to Pluto and Capricorn there, too. I think it's a confluence. I think you're right.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, there's a difference. They're all, I mean, Neptune and Pluto have been in a whole sign sextile with one another. Pluto, during Uranus during that whole time, was in a square with Pluto. So they were all configured to one another anyway. But anyway, so aside from Spencer getting hated on for being successful, sorry, Spencer, that you're you, you were, you know, if you're successful, you're gonna have some people hate on you. So you gotta, and I'm glad that you. You were very nice in the comments section. You were very tolerant, sir. Just good.

Spencer
You know, Adam, at the end of the day, I think especially, you know, with NFL fans, people are just passionate about their team. And I think that a lot of emotions run through that. And I actually have a lot of respect for anybody who is passionately loyal to their team. This is why I can talk to you guys. You're Vikings fans. I'm a Packers fan. I just love that you're passionate about your game. And I'm passionate about my game. And at the end of the day, it's a game. Like, you know, we can have fun with it.

Kip
Yeah, it's easy to be like,

Adam Elenbaas
I love your passion. Guys. Your passion is so nice. I won Super Bowls. But your passion is wonderful.

Spencer
I mean, you know, this is relaxed. You know, someone whose quarterback just spelled it out at various times of his

Adam Elenbaas
career. Okay, well, before we get into the Super Bowl, we are going to like spend most of our time talking about that. I want to know, like, what do you think you're a Green Bay Packers fan? Aaron Rodgers. Does he is he staying? Is he leaving? You've looked at his birth chart, I assume. What do you think?

Spencer
I think he's gonna get traded this offseason. I thought that last two. So we'll see. I think there are different factors this year, though. If I look at it, just from a practical standpoint, I think that he's owed a lot of money over the next few years. And if they trade in, they can take an entire cap this year of like $40 million or something like that, and then their books are clean moving forward. If they keep him, his dead cap money continues to increase The longer, he's on the team, like Aaron Rodgers really bent over the bay packers with his contract that he had last year. I do think that Jordan Love is ready, or as ready as I'll ever be, to figure out if he's going to be the guy or not. And I think that the organization is ready to move on. And I think that, you know, Aaron Rodgers is, I don't think he's going to retire.

I think the last thing he wants to do is go into the Hall of Fame years Tom Brady; he likes the attention too much. You know, and he likes money. He's, I mean, he's got 16 million reasons to retire next year. Right. So yeah, I think that the heavy betting favorites, quote-unquote, pardon the pun, as the New York Jets too, would be really interesting because he's followed the five mythological Green Bay Packers, you know, to a tee. And wouldn't it be funny if he got traded to the same team that five got traded to so many years ago? And then we were joking, you and I, Adam, were joking that it's only inevitable that he'll end up for the Vikings. Right. And then, yeah, I think the other team that could be in the mix is the Vegas Raiders. I think that you know, he really likes that connection with Davante. Adams has a pretty high draft this year. Or think Brady retiring only makes it less clear that Rogers will retire. And it makes the, you know, Rogers probably the most desirable quarterback on the trade market. So it increases his bow, I think, the Packers to do it this year.

Kip
Yeah, I think that way, and I haven't looked into it astrologically. But if he just wants to make money and put up numbers, the Raiders are such a great place for him to go; yeah, it's close to home, he wants to have a chance to win, the Jets have a top-five defense, and a couple of receivers that are really good. And a young offensive line that's really talented. I mean, he could win there. But it's also going to be cold. And you know, it's a fan base and a media environment where he's gonna get a lot of attention, and it won't all be good.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, get a lot more shit there than you probably got in Green Bay.

Spencer
Well, they just hired his former offensive coordinator, too, so that's one feather in the cap, although everybody was saying he was gonna go to Denver when they hired Hackett as their head coach, and he bought there, and they he got hired and got hired by the jets. The other interesting storyline would be, you know, the Jets are owned by the Johnson and Johnson pharmaceutical company. So all of the things that Rogers has been talking about in media, he'd probably have to answer to some of the could you imagine New York media day would like him talking COVID and all that stuff. And, you know, working for the Johnson and Johnson guy. So I think that there's I think it would be easier for Las Vegas for a lot of reasons, a lot of reasons.

Kip
Plus, he's got receivers. They don't really care if they won 10 games; they'd be thrilled.

Spencer
I don't; actually, I'm putting words in Aaron Rodgers's mouth, and I and I don't want to be too. I don't want to dump on one of my childhood heroes too much, but I know that he's into astrology now. Because I saw it advertised. Like, doing some kind of astrological conference, but really, he's like,

Adam Elenbaas
Silverman is, I think that his astrologer.

Spencer
Right. I think that at the end of the day, he said the quiet part out loud. He was like; I still think I can win an EP. And he did say I still think I can win Super Bowls, right? I think that he Okay, in his legacy, made more money working with a guy like Davante Adams, being closer to home in a warmer climate where he's comfortable. He's a Taurus rising. Adam, tell us what, how much comfort level matters to a Taurus rising? Like, I mean, you can speak to that potentially.

Adam Elenbaas
I like comfort.

Spencer
So I really like I think he's gonna take the path of least resistance in my mind.

Adam Elenbaas
That's interesting. Yeah, I can see. Yeah, it'd be interesting to see him in San Francisco. That's where he's from. Right. He's from the Bay Area. San Jose San. Where's he from? No, San Mateo. It is Tom Brady. He's from Chico,

Kip
Chico. Yeah.

Spencer
I don't think the package portrayed him to the Niners.

Kip
I don't think that cap; he'd have to adjust his contract. I don't think he's doing that. Yeah.

Spencer
Yeah, let's see here and there with his chart, though. He has a Venus retrograde in his fourth house over the next summer, and that's the ruler of his ascendant as well. And he has the sun kind together with Saturn, his 10th house, in the next coming weeks. So to me, that's that points to him moving on, potentially.

Adam Elenbaas
Speaking of moving on, I have Tom Brady's chart on the screen. He just announced this past week; he announced his retirement for the second time. It was a pretty self-aware video where he made it clear he was retiring and said you don't get too long emotional speeches, and I've already had one. So this is it. Goodbye. Thank you, everybody. And that was kind of it. You know, there's a lot of transits you could look at in his chart. Certainly, over the past year, he had this long Mars return with the Mars Retrograde in Gemini, Jupiter, and Gemini. So you know that Mars Retrograde for him this year was not kind in terms of divorce. This is the seventh house ruler of marriage, in terms of, you know, the, basically, I would say, deterioration of his play and team, one or the other or both. I mean, he was still serviceable and above even. I think he was one of the higher-rated quarterbacks and a few categories in the league this year.

Kip
Top five in the league in yards. Yeah. 45 years old.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah. So I mean, he, it's not like he, you can't say like, oh, he was like, you know, Peyton Manning when he was going out and barely looked like he could throw anymore. So it wasn't like that. I mean, he won a Super Bowl, obviously. But you know, people were saying like Peyton Manning as he was leaving, it was like, it was Denver's defense that really helped Peyton Manning win that last championship more than it was his arm at that point. You can't say that Tom Brady didn't go out still looking pretty good as a quarterback, but his team sucked. That was a bad year. And he was going through a divorce. It was a pretty rough, rough patch, for sure.

That's happening during a year where Saturn is opposite his son and natal Saturn. It's happening at a time where also you've got that long, like I said, that long Mars, long Mars Retrograde. But I thought what was really interesting is when he retired, Jupiter was conjoining his Moon, which is his MC ruler and his 10th house ruler. And there's something about that, that it's not that I would have sat down and predicted it. But when I looked at the chart, and I saw that, I thought, well, that feels like a happily ever after. I don't think he's coming back. I don't think he'll do, you know, because there's been a lot of speculation on ESPN on the media outlets that I listened to here locally.

Oh, you know, if someone gave him an offer, he'll come back, and someone's gonna, like, there's a lot of people think he's still going to come back. I'm like; I don't think so this time; I think he's done, and that Jupiter to me, Jupiter on the Moon in the seventh house. With the setting place, you know, and the place of resolution and completion place where planets set and disappear. The ruler of his midheaven, the public place, the place of career, Mars in, excuse me. After that long Mars Retrograde, Mars stations turn direct to Jupiter goes over the Moon in the West; it feels like retirement.

Kip
An omen, a bounty, and inner fulfillment. Right?

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, like seems like satisfied and complete. I mean, I know that it's easy for us who don't really know anything about his personal life to say, Oh, well, you know, he, he, he left his wife and family for one more year of football. I've listened to a number of people say, you know, kind of refute that and say, Look there, you know, there's a lot more going on than just I want to play football. And, you know, so just remember that, that there's marriage is more is a complex, deep thing. And when people decide to get divorced, you know, it's not just usually one thing that causes it. And I heard people saying that on some national programs that are close to Tom Brady.

So it's important to keep that in mind, even though there may be an element of truth to the fact that he lost his marriage over the desire to keep playing. But I think that may have, you know, a lot of things that end up in the media are their, their headlines that are designed to be polarizing. And so I just kind of keep that in mind and think, Well, this looks, you know, I hope that he's happy. And I hope that whatever this next phase of life is for him, you know, as I would for anyone, I hope it is some kind of peaceful transition.

Spencer
You know, there's one thing that gives me pause about the finality of it. And I think that it does feel much more final. I just, you know, have curious about what's going to happen in the summer when Venus goes retrograde. It's the ruler of his first house. It's the ruler of his Sun and Saturn, where he starts to be like, Oh, I miss it, you know? And I was I heard an interesting theory or another like sports talk radio like he wants to be close to his kids in Florida. And maybe if, like, two has a problem, and he can't come back, maybe my If he has a place where he could feel comfortable being close to his kids, and having a ready valuation, that's probably better than what Tampa Bay was. So if we creek the door open even just a little bit, that seems like the type of situation that would appeal to him. But as a person, like, just let someone else when they retire.

Kip
As a guy who's turning 46 this year, too, I tried to coach my kids' wrestling team, and I did it. But man, just like rolling around with a nine-year-olds, I can't imagine.

Spencer
So he has a marvel. I mean, regardless of whether you like him or you hate him, he really he's had quite an amazing career. And I think that he should acknowledge that, like he is, he has been the ultimate winner as far as you know, an athlete is concerned. And he deserves spectra that I guess I'm ready to see the new torch be passed to someone else, which I think would be interesting. But he deserves a little tip of the cap.

Kip
Maybe as soon as not this weekend. But next. Yeah.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, you know, it would be to me like if I had to, like, I think the only other quarterbacks left in the league that I have this like personal like, I'm excited to be an NFL fan once they're gone. Aaron Rodgers, even though I've, he's phenomenal. Actually, my respect for him, because he's taken to drinking Ayahuasca, has gone up significantly.

Just because I think it's, it's just something I can relate to. And so I have, like, a lot of I have a lot of personal respect for people who, like, go through that experience and try to become a better person. And I've watched him a number of times in the Pat McAfee show, and although I know, he said a lot of controversial things. And, you know, there's a lot of reasons to make him into a villain. But I also think that people are complex, and to meet anyone who goes to the length of an Ayahuasca ceremony and talks about it as karma cleanses and talks about it. There's something more to them. And so I really do, like, I don't want to see him leave because I think he's a villain. I really try not to get too personally involved. Like, you know, someone does something that's like super heinous, you know, like Deshaun Watson.

I don't know if I can ever be a fan again, you know what I mean. But with the Aaron Rodgers stuff, it's like, I just can't. I can't make him into a villain because he seems like a complex character to me. So I'm just I'm not going to do that. But I would like to see him leave for competitive reasons. Just like, leave at least like leave the NFL so that I can see different faces winning. I think that's what it by, like a parody. And then Kirk Cousins, who I want to see leave the NFL forever so that my team can have a chance at winning anything. Because as long as he's there, there is about a 95% chance that when it matters, there will be a check down behind the sticks rather than a pass for a first down or a touchdown. So once Kirk and Aaron retire, then I'm good.

Spencer
It's a great point

Kip
but I go on record saying I'm a fan of half of what he just said

Spencer
Right, I think it's a great point that these people are human beings; they're complicated it's much it's very easy to be like, you know, backseat drivers make these judgments from our ivory towers of their character like that, but I don't know if we really truly know these folks. And I think that you're right; they are complicated beings who play a game for a living and have robustly or not been thrust upon them the weight of their words, the weight of their vacation; I mean, sometimes do we really care what these people think I mean they literally throw a leather ball around for a living like do their other thoughts actually matter? But because their status is like modern-day gladiators or people of interest or famous people, Yes, we do reject some of those things onto them as far as the competitive balance, just waiting for my boy Jordan Love to be the next great quarterback for the next 15 years I'm just gonna when he comes the next great quarterback.

Adam Elenbaas
One can only wish for never-ending and perpetual success at the quarterback position. All right, let's move into our real, like the real portion to show that we're really excited about today. Obviously, to spend some time on the Super Bowl here. So, LVII That's 57. Do I have that right? I think it's super bowl 57

Kip
I believe it's Super Bowl 57, But the LVII does not help me at all.

Adam Elenbaas
Going back to learning Roman numerals, I think that it's 57 Yes. So we'll go with that. Superbowl 57 I want to go back first of all, and you know, just give Spencer a little bit of love. We were looking early in the season; I think it was in October. And we were looking at, you know, just different transits that were happening in the charts of some of the coaches and players. And based on transits, who did it look like might be playing in the big game? You know, Spencer looked at some charts and said, I think that it's going to be the Eagles in the Chiefs.

Now, granted, they were already off to a good start, both teams were, but there were also many other teams in the hunt buffalo was highly favored. I think Buffalo was probably the odds-on favorite through Vegas at that point to win the Super Bowl along with the chiefs. But you also had a variety of other teams throughout the year that was in the hunt, and definitely the top four remaining teams; you could have made a case for any of them, the Bengals, the Niners, etc. So I think it was a really good pick. I wonder if, before we go into our predictions, you could tell us how you arrived at your pick back in October that you thought the Eagles and chiefs would make the Super Bowl and just take us through it again because that was maybe one of the highlights of our series so far. Really that you called that?

Spencer
Sure. Do you want to see a chart with it? Yeah, okay, so let's let me share the screen here.

Adam Elenbaas
This makes sure that's quite a bit of water. It's a gallon, and it's like it has little markers on it. 8am Let's do this. 12pm, you've got this.

Spencer
Nice, I love it. I got my water and my little protein shake here.

Adam Elenbaas
Nalgene. Nice looks like anime stickers.

Spencer
So I've got the chart here if you want to just take a little whatever my

Kip
My kids gave me these.

Spencer
So here's what I'm looking at here. So, this is the chart of Super Bowl 57. And what I just to give them the technique without having to bring up like a million charts. The basics of the technique were I was looking at coaches and comparing their natal chart to the chart of the championship game because we have time chart championship games. So we know when the game is going to start. And historically, we've known exactly when those games start. Oh, even though we have time charts for, like any athletes, many coaches, we can still see how they interact with the game itself.

But one of the patterns I saw through multiple sports, like through baseball, basketball, and football, was that the losing coach of the champion often would have a proclamation with either south node of the game with one of their natal planets. Or this the Their name was one of the prominent units of the game chart itself. And the pattern, I use that pattern to predict Dusty Baker winning the World Series because previously, last year, he lost the World Series, and he had that South Node connection. And this year, he had a much better go of it, and the losing coach had the South Node Canadian Rob Thompson, and he lost.

So I was looking at coaches. And the first one that really stuck out to me was Nick Sirianni. This is why I made the prediction. I didn't know exactly at the time who would win the Superbowl. I was like, there's a couple of people I could see being in the game, but I felt pretty strongly I know this. This is where I get the blowback from the Philadelphia fans that Nick Sirianni would, and that is because you can see the connection between the game chart, so if we look at the game chart on the inside, so I keep flipping it. This is the game chart, the inner ring of Super Bowl 57, And then we see the outer ring of Sirianni's chart with his natal South Node making contact with Mercury in the particular area. Part of the game. Now, another little part of that was that it was even more effective when the planet contacting the south node was the ruler of the coach's natal Sun. So here we have Sirianni with the Sun in Gemini, and his, like the ruling planet, has his natal Sun, the host of his Sun is hitting the south node here.

Okay, so for his South thing that that rule says. So to me, that's that the south node represents something leaving like a drain of some sort, like old dusting, potentially, like old stances and karma. But, but like, it's a reduction in fortunate, I would say like that causes you to have like a, I guess you could call it like a come to Jesus moment where you're like, Oh, I've lost some that's precious. Maybe I need to like find God again, or something like that potentially. Right? Because, you know, in the, in the Jyotish system, they consider this the south node, something they aspire to because they're practicing nonattachment in much of those cultures, whereas the evolutionary astrologers of Western civilization were trying to move towards the north node of attachment, physical reality, and increase, right. So that was the first thing we saw with Nick Sirianni.

Here. If I look at Andy Reid's chart, if we pull any, read up here for just a second. Now, this was a little bit tougher, but I did see a pattern. I went back, and I looked at Andy Reid's charts because Andy Reid is an interesting case; he's been a Super Bowl. This will be his third Super Bowl. And he's one, and he's the last one. So even though he does not have a prominent, like, nodal condition, he is experiencing his nodal return position. I guess we call it or is reverse nodal return, which does speak to interesting events happening in your life. The pattern that I noticed for Andy reed that gave me a little bit of hope for him is that in every victory that he's had, Venus has been on his Sun Moon combination in Pisces. Now, there may be some debate about where his Moon is as far as like because it's not exactly a time chart. But when he won the Super Bowl in 2019, Venus was in Pisces exalted Venus was on his Sun, and when he lost the Super Bowl in year 22, that was last year, went to heat in 55, Super Bowl five and 2022, he Venus was in Aquarius, so it was not on the Sun and the moon. And this year, we have an exalted Venus being on his natal Sun. So that was one reason I picked it.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, no, that made sense. Okay.

Spencer
So yeah, that was my call with this, I was looking at the Buffalo Bills coach's chart, and he didn't really have any of those important contacts. He had a Mars return. And I believe that Kip was like, he'll probably be at home punching his wall, which could very well be the case.

Adam Elenbaas
That's funny. Yeah, this is a really interesting method to look at those South Node contacts. And to note that that was successful for you earlier this year when you called the World Series winner based on basically the same kind of technique that you're using here. So yeah, I mean, it'll be interesting to see. I always like to play this game. And I mean, maybe you don't play it until afterward. But I'll play this game after I'm pretty sure if something like this, I'll say, Well, okay, let's say I ended up being wrong, then is there anything I can see right now that would give that my room to pause and say, Well, if it was the other way around, this is where I guess I would probably have gotten it wrong. Not that I'm trying to second guess myself. I'll still go with my gut in terms of making a prediction. But do you do things like that? Spencer, have you looked at this and said, like, if I were to get it wrong, where would it be?

Spencer
For sure. I think that that's always good practice to learn from your mistakes as well. Like, I tried this technique with the World Cup. And I incorrectly predicted the winners of that, although I, you know, put my chips forward with Croatia, and they ended up getting third place in the World Cup, which for a nation of 4 million was quite a big success. I saw some really successful coaches from Croatia. In this particular chart, I guess the one argument that you is that any reads natal Jupiter is conjoining, the south node of the game.

So if I look back and I say, Oh, well, he does have South Node content. I think that that could be the argument that you could make if he does end up losing the game, as he does have a South Node contact with the chart of the game. I just think the South Node context that Sirianni has is so much tighter. And I think that we have a pattern of Venus being exalted. Reed wins the Super Bowl, so those are the two things that I'm saying. You know what? Yes, there could be some questions about this. But at the end of the day, those factors are still making me bullish on the chiefs. Yeah, yeah.

Kip
So at the risk of jumping on my own touchdown call, what I see is Uranus in the bendings. So, in other words, Andy Reid's Natal, Uranus at seven, Leo, right in between the nodes. And I'll share, and I'll show you I actually went through a number of charts for each team. And the reason I did that was that the week before, I was so happy with Joe burrow, so excited about how the greatest star looked for the Super Bowl, and then I checked Pat Mahomes, which looked not equally as good, but very, very good. And so I added another player. And then I added it read, and then added one more guy, and it was, it was almost completely balanced. And I went to the point where I couldn't; I really couldn't decide. But if you saw, I did a similar thing with these guys.

Spencer
I think it's fascinating that we can see multiple techniques saying similar things, like with dependency,

Kip
Rihanna, we'll get back to her.

Adam Elenbaas
I can see you with

Kip 47:16
history. Here we have Andy written actually did that when I was discussing as I did good omens, and I did even better ifs. And with Andy Reid, you can see the good omen is Venus. He's got Venus really tightly. Combined with a number of prominent places in his chart, I don't need it. Because I had so many, I'm not going to go through it too thoroughly. But Venus is obviously the omen of the sky right now. That's the most positive, but he's got Natal and Uranus in transit at bendings.

Kip
So here we go. Here we have the super bowl on the inside. I actually use a different time than you, Spencer, and I just pebble-checked. I think I'm right based on the time zones. But it's the same principle it's that the suit rolls on the inside because it's stable. And it really doesn't matter except when I get to Rihanna. But you can see here's Andy's Natal, Uranus, and here are the nodes. And that's what it's called when you're in the bendings is that you are halfway between or making a square with the nodes of fate. So we'll go down, and we'll look at I did both the Kelce brothers because I think it's fascinating that two of the best players in these teams, I think you could argue the best player on the Eagles, is their center Jason Kelce. And his brother, who might be the most prolific pass catcher of all time at tight end, is playing on the team against him. I think that's kind of amazing. Yeah, but here's, here's Travis Kelce. The tight end. I will come back up.

But you see, we have the North Node conjoined natal north, no congruence transiting Sun, which is a really, that is a really phonetic, you know, once every 17-year transit like this is like He's shining. I have Travis Kelce has fewer than eight catches in this game and be shocked, and we have to transit Jupiter in Aries squaring natal Jupiter. And that's again this is; this isn't necessarily more of a square. It's not a, you know, one of the most harmonious aspects, but that really signifies more. And in this situation where a guy just catches passes, unless more is dropping the ball on the ground, Jupiter generally doesn't do that. That's just good and even better, so we have natal Mercury opposing transiting Neptune. So if you want to look for something that might go on with Travis Kelce, maybe there's some boner play that happens.

But Mahomes This is fascinating. Patrick Mahomes chart is one of the most gorgeous charts you can look at. I mean, look at we have Venus at home and Libra. We have Mars at home and Scorpio. We have Jupiter at home and Sagittarius. I mean, this guy was destined to be a legend at whatever his pursuits were. And then you have this transiting exalted Venus just as such an epic planet in such a great place conjoin his natal Saturn; just so many positive transits going on, I'm not gonna break it all down.

But let's just keep in mind that the Patrick Mahomes chart is just a walk-in good luck charm. We do have an even better if we have natal Mars in Scorpio conjoin, the Transiting South Node, but quite honestly, the guy played on one leg last week, and it was to his benefit. He had to actually take a minute and throw a good pass rather than just run around like a goon and do things other people can. And finally, I did well, actually; there are two more, but I did Chris Jones; Chris Jones is their best defensive player. And again, I did this because last week I went down a list, and it was hard to find some, you know, a gap.

And honestly, when I was doing the World Cup, it was kind of similar, like the good players, as you would assume, are playing in the biggest event of their lives, and they all look pretty good, like good stuff was happening. So again, we have transiting Venus in pisces, training his north node. And that's just a really epic transit, the North Node, the place we're headed in life.

This Venus and one of the best places Venus can possibly be in training it that's just really good stuff. We get to Clark Huntington, the owner and the president of the team Clark Conte. Similarly, transiting the north node and Taurus, tri natal north node, and Pluto in Virgo, so this is a big day for him a big day to make lots of money. When we think Pluto, and we think guys that are really rich, and we think they're nodes, we think guys, Pluto expanding those resources, but if we look, we have Natal, Uranus opposing transiting Sun.

So here is natal Uranus, and here is transiting Saturn. It's exact that is a disruptive and unpredictable situation. So we have two people in leadership positions with the chiefs. And we have unpredictability, like how do you like can't tell what's going to happen. But we have the leader of the team, whose chart is like a horseshoe up the butt of a goose that lays the golden egg, and his chart looks amazing.

So what are we going to the Eagles We have Nick Sirianni. We talked about Nick a lot already. Nick's chart looks good. Transiting Mercury trine natal Mars in Gemini, Jupiter, Saturn, and Libra. I didn't point this out with Andy Reed, but Andy Reed has a transiting trine that solid air, and so does Nick Sirianni, which tells me there's gonna be a lot of passing in this game, which makes sense. Because the Chiefs have Patrick Mahomes, maybe the greatest throwing quarterback of all time, especially the most creative, I don't think that's up for debate. And if there's a place where the Eagles are going to attack the Chiefs' weakness, it's going to be through the air. So what we see is we see a lot of throwing the ball around, which again, that's an unpredictability factor because they don't throw it as much as they run it. And we've already seen there's tons of unpredictability in these charts already. Here's Jason Kelce, the center

Adam Elenbaas
Can you go back up just one second? I have a question. So which one is, which one is, is the Super Bowl inside? Okay, yep. So this Super Bowl features the Moon in Scorpio opposite Uranus as well, right?

Kip
Yeah. So that we get to that end. Okay, sorry. Keep the air during your rainy days super uranium, especially at the start, if you use that as the omen for the game. It's gonna feel weird, like weird stuff, which I think is pretty fun. Great. Sorry. Unexpected weird. Jason Kelsey, one of the best players in the game for six years now, a Hall of Famer at center; his brother plays the other team just bizarrely, his good omens we have transiting Jupiter co-present with his natal Jupiter. Now that's not a huge, like, once-in-a-20-year type thing, and it's not right on point. But this is really a genetic thing. This is the type of thing when you have a friend who maybe isn't into astrology; you see they have their Jupiter return. It's like, Hey, buddy, the next, you know, eight to 12 months are big for you. Take advantage of it.

Mercury sextile natal Mercury, his brain is going to work fast, and it needs his hands going to be dexterous. They need to be transiting Sun sextile his Saturn Uranus and natal Jupiter, so we have more good lucky things. Um, so what this really tells me is that the Eagle's best player is going to be playing really well. He's not their quarterback, though. And here we get to Jalenurts. Now Jalen Hurts does not have a bad transit for this game. This does not look like Jalen Hurts is going to drop the ball. I'm going to drop a little bit and just say it we can go back up because I don't know if you guys have looked at his chart, transiting Venus and Pisces trine natal Venus, Mars conjunction, and cancer. That is super epic. Like you, and I can't repeat that enough.

So this is Jalen Hurts. The biggest day of him playing football. Here is Venus in Pisces. This is where Venus is at her most potent, and she is training his natal Venus Mars conjunction, probably the most prominent placement in his chart. So Jalen Hurts is having a good lucky productive day. We also have transiting Venus also co-present with his natal Jupiter, which is also in a great spot in Pisces. The one thing with Jalen Hurts is transiting Mercury is conjoined to his natal Neptune. We talked about this a little bit and square natal Saturn.

So if you're gonna have a boneheaded play, if you're gonna space out for a driver to have Neptune on top of Mercury, that's where that happens. And having that square Saturn, we go up just a little bit with the group here Saturn squaring that Neptune Mercury so thinking cognition using your hands Neptune foggy losing track of things squaring Saturn that's repercussions. That's like something happened, and you ran into a wall, so of everything we've looked at in this whole game and seeing their quarterback have this happen. We can talk about urine as we pick up on unpredictability; we talk about how that factors in good or bad; this is Saturn; this is really having a negative thing take place; finally, we're gonna go back. We're well over two more Hassan Riddick, I think, is going to have a big game, and it's for a funny reason.

Let me push buttons. And it's because Hassan Redick, excuse me, anyone who has a squeezy tummy actually has to transit Moon in Scorpio conjunct natal Jupiter Venus, so you see, but this is opposite that Uranus. So the lucky spot and Assam radix chart this both been ethics can join each other in Scorpio; we can talk about, you know, how happy Venus is in Scorpio, but she's right there next to Jupiter is in contact with this. The fundamental part of the game, the thing that's going to be the marker for the game, is the beginning of this game, having Uranus opposite the Moon and the X Factor. He's the kind of guy that gets off the edge, sacks the quarterback, and disrupts things. This is just another reason why I think this is a Uranus-type game and an unpredictable game where weird stuff happens. And the fortunes of the owner and of the coach of the chiefs are really tightly connected to Uranus in this game, and again, the X factor of the Eagles right there.

Finally, we get to Jeffrey Lurie, who is the owner of the Eagles, and we see just some immaculate stuff as you could expect from a guy who's more or less a self made billionaire; we see Jupiter return, we see Jupiter trine Mars natively, but then it connects right into Mars.

So this is a day of it's almost like a general or a king going and watching his army in battle, and it goes well for them. You even have natal Sun trine this Uranus and sextile this Moon. So a benefic contact between what I'm saying is the biggest part of this game, and now you say Kip, you've just looked at this whole thing, and it looks really close. I don't see any omens on one side or the other other than Jalen Hurts having a couple of boneheaded plays. I think This is your rainy day game. I think it's unpredictable. I think it's hard to really come to a conclusion.

But if you make me pick, I'm still going to take the chiefs. And the reason I would take the Chiefs is that Patrick Mahomes is having as benefics and transits as a guy can have and be. He is fundamentally a difference maker, a changer of events. A guy who does things that aren't common and art, the way in which other folks do it, he runs to his right, throws an underhanded pass left over, you know, a defensive lineman, and it gets caught by his guy for a 15-yard pass. So I think that if what you're telling me is we're gonna have an unconventional game full of unconventional things, and the rich guys are gonna get richer, who's going to come out on top? I'm gonna take the guy that plays an unconventional style, who's having one of the best days of their life. And that's where I come out.

Spencer
You know, he also, like, I think Patrick says, a chart that's made better than Tom Brady's. Do you know what I'm saying? I think at the end of the day, if we're looking back at, like, 1015 years from now, we might be talking about Patrick Mahomes as the goat; he has that kind of fortune in his chart, as far as, like, six for success luck. Because at the end of the day, these are all super talented, like crazy Uber freak athletes.

And oftentimes, I think the planets are going to show you the fortune that they have, you know, and like Brady had that Venus right on the midheaven. That was just like making him really lucky. His playoff games. That wasn't good. But he had extra good fortune with that. I think my home says the same thing. The other thing, just to piggyback off what you're saying, Kip is the, you know, Mahomes got better. This is what Adam was saying to he got better when he was, you know, and to me, that's Mars, and in Scorpio, t like he's, he's got his back against the wall is that he's facing death, and he's just gonna fight like hell like so I just I really enjoy watching him play. And I think this is a really interesting Super Bowl. As far as the other Uranian influence that I think we could see is this is actually the first Super Bowl where we have two black starting quarterbacks, which is a really big paradigm shift for the NFL and shattering a lot of glass ceilings, and you know, the way things have been in the league, so that's really, really interesting. Really cool to see as well.

Kip
That's great. And I'll be honest; I didn't even think about it. I was looking at the charts, but that's true. And unfortunately, that is a bit Uranian in and of itself.

Adam Elenbaas
Are you guys ready for my curveball? Hell yeah. We're gonna talk about Chad Henne.

Kip
Chad sent Tom Brady to the bench at Michigan.

Adam Elenbaas
Chad Henne is the backup for the Kansas City Chiefs and would be called upon to play, and Patrick Hahomes This place should Patrick Mahomes' ankle give him problems on a very Uranian day, right? I'm not saying I don't want to wish injury upon anyone. But do we have any evidence that this could be an incredible moment for Chad Henne? And he's come in and played for Patrick Mahomes before in the playoffs and kept them alive. Well, look at this. He's got Mars opposite transiting Mars is opposite his natal Uranus and the Moon is on his South Node while Uranus is on his north node. Right? He has transiting Jupiter, hitting his son in a square. Right. And what was the other one I was looking at? Um, this one's kind of I don't know what to make of this Mercury opposite Mercury. See, I thought there was one transit.

Kip
His natal Jupiter is transiting Mars to what we just found below.

Adam Elenbaas
So we got transiting Mars, natal Jupiter. Where it's like, yeah, you could actually make the case that this chart could be no look if you're a backup, and you win a Super Bowl, this is still an A chart that could be reflective of being on the sideline, winning a Super Bowl because that's a life-changing event regardless. But this does strike. It just strikes me that there are some really interesting contacts in his chart on the day of the Super Bowl. So I just thought I'd throw that curveball out there and see.

Spencer
That's a great Uranian curveball, right?

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah.

Kip
It's also like you have a lucky charm who you go sit next to on the bench every time you come off the field.

Spencer
You know, we also mentioned this is the first time that those brothers played each other in the Super Bowl, and it's Mars and Gemini. So we have two warriors squaring off in the Super Bowl, and the other time where we had the Super Bowl with two brothers as coaches, Jupiter was Gemini, so the two sages were like facing off with those are

Adam Elenbaas
The Harboughbrothers. Right? Yeah. So you have 40. So everyone knows 40 Niners in the Ravens when they met up, and the lights went out during that show, you remember that during the Super Bowl that was at halftime? Or remember the lights went out?

Spencer
Yes. There was a huge delay in one of those games, wasn't there?

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah. It's a power outage.

Spencer
I think you know what? Everyone's been waiting for what's going to happen with Rihanna. I mean, come on. We have to at least listen.

Kip
I've got it loaded up. We can check out everybody. I don't know.

Adam Elenbaas
You. We got to talk about Rihanna. I also I was I have? I have, I have no, I have, I have a chart that we're going to look at as a requiem to a player this year. We'll do that once we're done with Super Bowl stuff. I thought we were, but I forgot. Okay. Share Screen. It's funny how, like, you know, if you're not someone who knows astrology, well, listening to Kip go through that list. You could be like, I could imagine like, you know, if you're a dude, and you're listening to this, your wife scales, and she's like, trying to get you into this. You're like, alright, so who the hell do you think is gonna win? You get through. But one of the things that's really amazing, and I hope that everyone who knows if you know astrology a little bit better, well, Kip just did to unpack why this is going to be a really special day for those people and players was magnificent. So if you, like if you know enough, if you know astrology, you know that, like, all the transits that Kip was pointing out in those charts suggest, like, this is probably one of the biggest days in those people's lives. And that can be something to look at, regardless of just being like, Okay, who wins?

Kip
We do have a chart that someone thought was a legit chart for Riyadh; it's only seen from astro.com. So don't take too much into it. I did use the super bowl underneath the same way. So you can, you can see my number one thing I thought about was that, you know, I was gonna predict if she went over whatever the time limit was for the weird bet for the know, she's not singing the national anthem, though. She's doing the halftime show.

So I do want to hear what you guys say. Kind of more than I even want to talk about this. But something I thought was really interesting as she turned down the Super Bowl once and 2020. And the reason she said she did it was that the NFL was blackballing Colin Kaepernick due to his protests during the national anthem. And when that happened, her natal Mercury on that day was exactly on top of the transiting Sun. And what we see today is that that same natal Mercury is really involved in this chart.

So we see exactly training that transiting Mars, and we also see Rihanna has natal Venus right in there. So this is the most potent connection in this chart, kind of besides the fact that Rihanna's natal north node is conjoined. This nap can never be here, but I'm going to go out on somewhat of a limb and say that Rihanna is going to make some kind of a protest regarding the horrific beating death of the young man in Memphis and that we are going to see Rihanna again. Use her Mercury, her voice which she did in silence last time, shining through Aquarius. We're going to see that Aquarian do your own thing voice may combat in a way that might even be well received but definitely is going to show up glitzy on the big stage. All right, that's what I got. What do you guys see when you look at this big day?

Spencer
I really, I'm really narrowing in on that. Venus Neptune conjunct Chiron on her north node. I mean, I feel like she's going to be projecting this in this glamorous image, maybe even this oceanic vision. Right? And, you know, I think that it's going to be a very emotional performance regardless. I mean, I was making the joke about the lift me up song, but every time I hear that recently, I'm like, oh, man, this really gets you. I mean, it really just hits you in the heart chakra. So I think that I think she's really going to make us feel something as a collective with that North Node hitting Neptune.

Adam Elenbaas
Speaking of hitting in the heart chakra. I would bet that at some point during this Super Bowl, we will see something about Devlin Hamlin. Oh, yeah, some kind of tribute or his charity, or? I don't know; I just don't feel like that was a headline of the year that somehow gets wrapped into the narrative of the Super Bowl feels like it could.

Adam Elenbaas 1:11:07
Well, yeah, I mean, going back to well, I guess the thing that made me think of that was like using your voice and what might be spoken to during that kind of, so that's kind of why I was dovetailing there. But yeah, I mean, I love what you said, Kip, about just the idea that, you know, that this the signature of Mercury Retrograde is really strong in her chart, and the fact that we have kind of a return going on would suggest to me that there is like there's some way in which your voice is being used to something you're speaking to something that feels right to me that feels spot on. And also the fact that we have a Jupiter return moment and there's a Jupiter return in Aries with sort of the Moon and Venus in Aries over that over that natal Jupiter feels like, you know, her in all of her sort of fierce feminine glory will be on display probably in the costumes that she's you know, costumes. I don't know what they call it, like stagecraft or whatever it is. But, like, fierce and outspoken kind of a warrior goddess vibe that I would

Kip
Lots of Jupiter and Neptune.

Spencer
Well, you think you think about the song that her most popular song right now is from, you know, Black Panther Wakanda forever, soundtrack, right, and some of the themes of a fallen warrior, right. So like, if you're connecting what Kip was saying about making a protest for the slain young man, and then connecting that with, like, the kind of the same vibe that we're seeing in Wakanda forever, and having it be a unifying, cathartic experience, I think that going to be really powerful.

Adam Elenbaas
It would fit with the Uranian theme of the day, you know, like just the idea that there's this sort of Uranian energy in the air that there would be a speaking out and speaking truth to power, that kind of thing. It just goes with the Uranian transit of the day. Yeah. Well, I know that, like, one of the reasons that I love the halftime performances, even though I'm not, like, I'd never have really gotten that into them. But one of the reasons that I love them is because it is the way that I ended up getting my wife and kids to watch it with me.

Kip
Just gonna say that my daughter literally goes to another room, eats the snacks I make, and then comes in for halftime.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, yeah, totally. So, you know, one of the things that is a real possibility is there we have a family member who is probably preparing to go into hospice. And it's possible that the Super Bowl will be a time for some family to get together after he's entered hospice and maybe have a moment of trying to have, you know, some lightness. And so I'm thinking like, gosh, it's interesting that we'll have the Fallen Moon in Scorpio right at that time opposite Uranus is kind of this event in my family background that could be, you know, trying to seek a little shelter and comfort and familiarity in a ritual like the Super Bowl of family.

So I thought I thought that was I was looking at that and thinking about it. And so Rihanna, could you know, with that in the air, you just do get the feeling that hurt her performance could be emotionally galvanizing for a lot of people. A lot of people bring a lot, I think to the table in, you know, a waning moon, you know a waning Moon in Scorpio opposite Uranus. It's like a lot that people probably bring to this game that emotionally that they may not even know, and it's funny how collective events, as they always have collective sporting events, can act as conduits for cathartic catharsis. Yeah,

Spencer
I agree. No, you've got the Sun and the Moon, the two lights in like both in its exile, and it falls so potentially shining light on, you know, systemic oppression or things of that nature or people that have been cast into exile could be part of that as well.

Adam Elenbaas
Right. Well, this was great. Thank you, Kip, for bringing this in. Ready to move on? I want to bring one last thing up before we go for the day. Unless either of you guys have anything more you want to add about the Super Bowl, I have a chart we're going to look at it. A requiem for an NFL player.

So this, this is I think this was the I personally feel like this was one of the saddest, like karmically unfortunate events of the year. And it happened to one Brock Purdy, the quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers, who tore his UCL in the NFC Championship game. He's this, Mr. irrelevant, you know, like last round draft pick. Seventh round. I think it was a seventh-round draft pick, you know, Mr. Irrelevant. He comes in just balls out for like six or seven weeks. I mean, he's looking amazing; quarterback controversy is brewing in San Francisco with Trey Lance injured, and Jimmy Garoppolo injured and probably on his way out after this year. And this first-round pick, you know, they traded several first Rounders to get Trey Lance, he breaks his ankle.

We talked about that earlier in the year when we looked at his chart in the Mars Retrograde. Brock Purdy comes in like a seventh-round pick and plays like he's a first-round pick. Which forever, you know, to me, proves the mantra that these draft analysts just don't include karma. Like you, you know, it's like you can still like it's amazing how the highest picks and the mid rent like Jalen Hurts was a second-round pick. He's playing better than a lot of the cubies who were selected ahead of him, which I believe included, like, maybe it was Zack Wilson and Trey Lance and blah, blah, blah. So anyway, he comes in, he plays incredibly well, and then has this devastating injury. He's going to be out until, I think, into training camp. If not longer with the repair on a torn UCL.

I was looking at his transits and just thought we should take a moment because if you're a 49ers fan, that had to be soul-crushing, they couldn't, their fourth-string quarterback came in and got a concussion and had to leave pretty comes back, and he cannot throw the ball he can only hand it off. So the game was like, I mean, it was a joke of a game. It was sad. It was really sad to watch, and this is a terrible way for the 49ers' season to end, but also like this unfortunate turning point where you go from a meteoric rise, and maybe he still will be, but now with his injury and Trey Lance, also coming back from injury, you can bet that there's probably going to be a quarterback competition in San Francisco, whereas had he won that game or played well in that game. He's probably the uncontested starter in San Francisco next fall, I would guess. So anyway,

Spencer
this here like why NFL GMs need astrologers on the payroll. Put us into the war room.

Adam Elenbaas
That's right. So you have this date. Hold on. Actually, let me go back to so we're looking at Sunday, January 29. Saturn is conjoining his natal Mars. This is a noon chart. But Saturn is conjoining his natal Mars Saturn is squaring his natal Venus, who has a Venus Mars square that's getting activated by Saturn. That alone can I mean that to me, especially Mars on Saturn, when it comes to the breaking of joints or ligaments or bones, structures in the body that tear or break. That's a Mars Saturn trait, for sure. But also, and I think Kip might have, or Spencer might have told me this initially on Instagram when we were talking about it. Mars is opposite his natal Pluto transiting Mars opposite Pluto. I had that when I broke my arm. When I broke my arm in college playing a pickup game of football with my roommates, I broke my arm. It was transiting, it was transiting, it was Pluto opposite my natal Mars, actually, I think, but anyway, it doesn't matter. But it was a Mars Pluto thing. So I know that that one can be pretty, you know that one can be pretty devastating.

Also important is Neptune squaring his natal Mercury, which at the very least, is going to create some real confusion and cloudiness around his future. And, you know, and his, you know, maybe his status, his sense of mental clarity about where things are going, at least, you know, talk for a little bit. He's certainly going to be one. During about the next couple of months, he's got Uranus sitting pretty close to Natal, Saturn. Yeah, so you can see that node, right? Yeah. So just like, oh, man, what a bummer. And he's got Jupiter square, his Sun. At the same time, transiting Jupiter is square two.

Kip
It's a big day.

Spencer
Big day, if you want to put, if you want to give some hope to like the Purdy family, maybe it turns out like that movie from our youth rookie of the year where he learned he breaks his elbow, like, feels funny. And he's like a flame thrower. Like, a little kid, you know? Yeah, maybe that's how it turns out. Right? Maybe there's some time when that's the case, I believe.

Kip
The funny part about looking at this is you were just talking about how I unpacked all those charts. And I want to be clear; I pick those because the players were good, and leaders of the team that because of the transit they're having, and all those folks were having, you know, once in a lifetime days, on a once in a lifetime event. This and you didn't see Saturn and Mars conjunctions. You didn't see Uranus Saturn conjunctions. Like, this is the opposite of those charts. I just want people to be clear, if you're unfamiliar, you can go back and look at just and clearly see there is a very big difference between the transits we're looking at in this chart and the ones that are the ones I was looking at earlier.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm that's what I was saying. Like, in all those charts like that Kip brought up, you were really seeing these fantastic transit suggesting that even if they lose this is, this is a day that is you could say this is a day where they're all going to the bank afterward, cashing a big check, really. So you know, that's the Super Bowl; if you make it to the Super Bowl, it's sort of like it doesn't matter if you win or lose because it's a feather in your cap. And you can see that astrologically, even though I think, I think I still think I agree with you, Kip, that, you know, the Chiefs really do look? It looks pretty good for Patrick Mahomes. And I'm still like the whole thing with Chad Henne. I'm really like I would just be so tickled if, hopefully, he doesn't hurt himself, but let's just say it's like he tweaks it. Look, I don't. I can't play on this foot. Chad Henne comes in and has the game of his life wins the Super Bowl. That'd be nuts.

Spencer
I mean, that'd be payback for, like, the Nick Foles Super Bowl, right? Bowls like just came in randomly one year, and like

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, and I would be so happy since the Eagles beat us that year to go to the Super Bowl. But

Kip
it's funny, though, because when I pointed out that Chad Henne took Tom Brady's spot in college. That's true. Tom Brady was the quarterback in Michigan. He started his whole sophomore year, his junior year Chad; he was the number one recruit in that country and came in and took his job.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, that's right. That is so funny. Yeah. Because yeah, well, anyway, Tom Brady did okay. He did okay. Chad. Chad Henne has also done okay, I mean, in terms of, like, he's been a longtime NFL quarterback and backup and plays meaningful minutes, you know, behind the greatest quarterback in the league.

Spencer
The gig-making ones are rare. Yeah, it's a good gig making millions of dollars, just like not getting all of the crazy injuries that these guys have.

Adam Elenbaas
Remember the game where he came in and won? I think it was like I think it was against the Titans, or it was against the Chargers or bills or Bengals or something. I remember that playoff game where like, he had to come in and like finish the game for Mahomes.

Kip
I mean, he played really well halfway for half the game two weeks ago, too.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So you know, crazier things have happened? Well, we'll see. It definitely has. So broadly speaking, we're gonna we're saying this is a Uranian Game Watch for Uranus in this game. More specifically, I think we're all landing on the Chiefs was that I'm not that I've done I haven't done the analysis that you guys have. I really sort of left that to you guys. But I lean in the same direction, plus I just feel like it does it. It feels like the stuff of legends and myths that an injured like It's like Jordan asked for him to come in like with the flu. You know, like, like Jordan did with a hobbled ankle and like, he'll probably run for 80 yards and throw for 350 You know, I mean, his legend is like, you don't you can just see.

Kip
Great Hall of Fame wide receiver in the offseason.

Adam Elenbaas
Do it? I mean, yeah, I mean, what I mean is the opposite; I guess Jalen Hurts could be out to set up his first win and start establishing himself as one of the top cubies in the league. Like that'd be a storyline too, but it just feels like, though. It feels like Patrick Mahomes is the next Super Bowl win, and probably one in which he's going to have a narrative built around him. He's Wolverine, you know,

Spencer
He's not even 27 yet. So I mean, this is we're just seeing the very beginning of a blossoming, really amazing career. I, yes, looking at Yeah, everything. I'll just reiterate,

Kip 1:25:13
there's a lot of competing information in the omens. But the guy who plays the most important position of any sport in his sport that has the most impact on the game is having immaculate transits to a chart that's already unbelievably fortunate. So it's hard to pick against that. Given all things

Spencer 1:25:37
for him, because I'd want to don't want to hear about Tom, he is the greatest of all time forever. I want to see Mahomes take over that man at some point. So I'll be like, when as many as you want, just so I know. Look at Tom Brady's face getting worse.

Adam Elenbaas
If there's anybody that's going to, it's probably going to be the guy who's gone to like four out of the last, or it'll be like three to last for Super Bowls, including this one, four or five constraint AFC Championship games played at home or whatever it is, like,

Kip
That's how many years he's been a starter. It's as you're starting to do.

Adam Elenbaas
You know what he's like, he's like when you're you if you guys play Madden, and you get your you like, level up one of your players like God status, you know, they're like a 100 out of 100 player ranking. They're always, you know, and you're, you're, you know, if you're Patrick Mahomes, you're basically just like a video game player. It's, yeah. That's pretty crazy.

Spencer
He's fun to watch, too, you know,

Kip
for the Vikings for a second-round pick,

Adam Elenbaas
You know, we should do, you know, it'd be really fun. We should do this next time or something sometime, you know, when there's not big games or big things happening. We should really look at the charts of athletes who have somehow been so transcendent that they develop fans across the boundaries of their team. Michael Jordan, for example, Tiger Woods, there's, there are lots, but I'm just saying, it would be interesting to see what is it that attracts people to these transcendent players, because the thing is, is that when I don't like the same teams winning all the time, I get sick of it. But you can't take your eyes off from and come to, like overtime, I came to cheer for Tom Brady because I have to cheer for greatness. At a certain point. It's just like like I did; I always would be like, if there was a team that deserved to win that hadn't won, I'd usually cheer for them, not Tom Brady. But there will be times where I just have to like, almost like, I surrender your great, and I just I have to just be like, Wow, you're freaking great, you know? And, like, what is it in the charts of those types of athletes? I think we should. That'd be a fun one to look at.

Kip
That is a really, really great one. We should all come up with a few people and put them in a hat. This might be a time when those fixed stars come into play. But again, yeah,

Spencer
I know. I know people need Jordan. So that was that one thing where the projection type of thing could happen.

Adam Elenbaas
But yeah, I'll drink the collective Gatorade.

Adam Elenbaas
Well, this was a great episode today. Thank you so much for being here. If you want to find Kip. You can find him on Twitter at Eudaimoniaastro if you want to find Spencer. You can find him on Instagram at Spencer Michaud if you want to find him on YouTube. You can also find his great content at SpencerMichaudastrology. I have occasionally gone on and talked to him on some of his new and full moon forecasts to find lots of good things that these guys are up to really appreciate you guys coming on.

Spencer
And I'll be doing a talk on the Super Bowl, dude.

Adam Elenbaas
That's right, actually, let me I'm sorry. Good. Yeah, good that you are more aware of what's going on in my life than I am. I attribute that to children. I blame my kids for any kind of disorganization in my life. Alright, here's if I go to courses on my go to my website if you guys want to check this out, nightlightastrology.com.

Once you go there, click on Events, click on the speaker series, scroll down, and you're going to see our winter speaker series on Sunday, February 12. That is Super Bowl Sunday prior to the game, so you could watch this get done. You'll have plenty of time to pregame and get ready and sit down and watch the game.

At noon Eastern time, Spencer will be giving a talk called Stars and Cards tarot, an astrological storytelling device that is free, you can register here and get a link to join. If you can't make it you can get the link and get a free download for a week or a free replay link for a week. So you can check that out. Check out the other speaker series too. Yeah, we're really glad to have that coming up. And thanks for reminding me, Spencer.

Adam Elenbaas
Okay, cool. Well, thank you, guys, for being here. Thank you, everybody, for listening. And we hope that you enjoy the Super Bowl experience. Let us know your thoughts in the comment section. Who are you cheering for? Do you have any insights you want to add to our podcast today? We love to hear from you guys. And we will see you again next time. Take it easy, everyone. Bye.