5 Subtle Venus-Neptune Karmas to Watch For

Hey everyone. This is Adam Elenbaas from Nightlight Astrology, and today, we are going to take a look at Venus's opposition to Neptune. Yesterday, we talked about Venus trining Uranus, as Mercury is stationing and turning direct this week. The other aspect is opposition from Venus to Neptune. This is sliding into the week subtly because Venus-Neptune connections are often like that. They can be very subtle but powerful at the exact same time.

Sometimes, they're not so subtle. But we're going to talk today about five subtle Venus-Neptune karmas to watch out for because these really can fly underneath the radar when these two planets come into contact with one another. This is one of my favorite personal aspects, like Venus Neptune contacts. I love. I feel like some of my favorite social experiences with friends, like date night activities and the fun things my wife and I go and do, are often Venus-Neptune occasions.

So, I always feel like the combination is very artistic, fun, creative, and kind of otherworldly, and it's a really nice contact. So, in talking about this today, as always, we're simply looking at one angle of this archetypal combination. Today, we are looking at some of the problematic and subtle traps of Venus-Neptune, which we can call karmic traps. But there are other ways of looking at Venus Neptune as well, and we will be highlighting some of those probably tomorrow. I think I have to finalize a few things on my agenda for this week, but I believe tomorrow we'll be turning this jewel again to look at Venus Neptune from a slightly different perspective. So, just keep that in mind.

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Now, let us turn our attention to the real-time clock, where we will be looking at Venus opposite Neptune and some subtle karmas to watch for. All right. So here we have Tuesday, August 27, and Venus is less than two degrees away from the opposition to Neptune. If we fast forward this to tomorrow, Wednesday, August 28, we're going to see that these two planets move very quickly through the opposition.

So here is Venus moving through the opposition with Neptune by tomorrow, Wednesday, August 28, in the afternoon; this is central time USA, and that will then, if we go forward one more day, we'll see that Venus then transitions into Libra by Thursday, August 29 so we have just today and tomorrow, really to experience this quick, moving opposition from Venus to Neptune. You may experience it a little bit as Venus is separating, still within three degrees across the sign boundary into Libra, but primarily today and tomorrow.

So today, what I wanted to do is, you know, every archetypal combination has shadows, traps that we can fall into that often create difficulty and pain, all of which we can learn from, right? But if we know a little bit more, we can also avoid some of these things and move through an archetypal field with a little bit more awareness or consciousness.

Now, sometimes, it doesn't matter how much awareness or consciousness we have as a matter of fate and karma; we're just going to go through some things and learn some things. We might not be able to avoid any of this, but what we can know and understand is worth thinking about and bringing to our awareness, right?

So these are things that I have learned and noticed from Venus Neptune dynamics, especially in transits, to my clients, natal charts over the years, and just mundane transit observations in my own life. And these are the things that I would watch for. Be careful. Of these things, maybe tomorrow, what we'll do is try to hit some of the more constructive, exciting Venus-Neptune themes so we sort of balance it out. But these are five subtle Venus Neptune karmas to be aware of. Number one, wishing others harm.

Now, on the surface, when you hear that phrase, wishing others harm, I'm sure you like me, and like most people we all know, would be like, Oh, I do not wish other people harm negatively. We do not do that, right, but we do, and let's be real about it. Most of the ways in which we wish other people harm are very subtle. This is why it's a subtle karma, and it is often cloaked in a kind of self-righteousness. Self-righteousness is one of the most pervasive and difficult things for us to come to terms with. I say that as someone who struggles with it myself now; wishing others harm often looks just like this, okay?

And I'm making up a story, all right, so this is not coming from anything other than my imagination. Let's say that you have a friend, and that friend is in a relationship with someone that isn't good for them. And you can see it. You can see it, and you kind of go. Well, I hope she gets a real wake-up call from this. You know, I hope this teaches her a lesson. On the one hand, you could almost say that what you're really hoping for is that they learn and grow. And how noble of you, how noble of me to wish that someone would learn and grow. Okay, why don't you graduate beyond shitty relationship school? I hope this teaches you a lesson.

But the thing is, is that when we involve ourselves in other people's karma, we subtly think to ourselves, I know what they need. I know what would be best for them. I know what they don't know. And God, I wish they'd learn. I wish they'd get a little karmic education. That is subtly a kind of violent posture, and the way that we entangle ourselves in relationships with other people is not merely through the time we spend, the intimacy we share, the friendship, the connection; it's also the relationships we have with other people are often based in enmity or spite.

Our connections with other people are often based on our judgments and opinions of other people. Those are also a form of bond. It's like bondage, right? But it's a kind of bond opinions about other people bind us to them, karmically speaking. And that's something that goes way back. I mean, that is at the core of what I learned from some of the most sacred, beautiful wisdom texts of the yogic tradition. And obviously, this is at work in the way that a lot of people have thought about fate from all different places around the planet for over 1000 years, right? Don't dwell on what other people are getting right or wrong. And you know, here's another thing: when we watch the news, right? And I really don't watch the news much anymore; I have to protect my serenity.

But at any rate, whether you do or don't is not the point. The simple point is that when we watch the news, we often see the missteps that other people are taking, and as soon as we do, we develop opinions about it. Oh, well, I bet. I hope that person gets what's coming to them. I hope justice serves them well. I hope that they get corrected somehow. Um, this entangles us with another person's karma.

There is an anytime we have, like, punitive thoughts about other people, my own kids, for God's sake, I'll be like, you know, well, I hope my daughter learns by doing this stupid thing that I've told her not to do, you know, that will result in her, you know, hurting herself or something. I hope that little bugger gets a lesson, you know. But this kind of thinking subtly, even if it's pretty benign, still subtly entangles us in the karma of someone else, and it is a kind of bondage.

The thing that we don't realize about Venus, time and time again, is that Venus forms relationships with people that are rooted in what we don't like as much as what we do, and we always have to be aware of how we are being attracted into dynamics with other human beings based on how loudly we allow our dislikes, disapproval, disapproval, judgments, and opinions about what other people are doing wrong or getting wrong to cloud us and to entangle us.

It's not saying that having an opinion is a crime, but it's like every time that we have an opinion about what someone else ought to be experiencing. You know? Well, I don't like the way that this content creator makes their stuff. I don't like their tone, I don't like their attitude, you know? And eventually, I'm sure they're gonna, they're, they're gonna lose followers and get what's coming to them, you know, this kind of thing.

Those are tempting thoughts, by the way, though. Sometimes, when I don't know, I find myself scrolling around and finding some kind of astrological content creation that I find to be subpar in some way. Why are my opinions so valuable? Right? Who cares that I'll be like, uh, you know, it's so sad that this person has more followers than I do. And, um, you know, eventually something will happen to, like, correct the ego in that person's presentation. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just being totally transparent here. I don't think about these things often because I've learned, and I'm in the process of continuing to learn this same lesson. Don't do that, right? Just let other people stay in your own lane. That's something we say at Al-Anon, stay in your own lane.

So there's a subtle way in which we look at other people, and we kind of play the karmic judge, and it's often in these very, very subtle, simple ways that we think are benign. That's just my opinion. I, you know, oh Rachel, God, you know she's gonna eventually get type two diabetes, but, I mean, at least that'll serve her to, you know, serve her some lesson and help her finally get real about her health. You know what I mean?

Like, it's funny how, like, there's often a just like, a little inner, what am I thinking of? Like Simon Cowell, you know, from the show American Idol. There's like a little panel of judges, and I think a lot of them try to be fair-minded, kind, and compassionate. And then there's one on our inner Committee. It was like, this person ought to get this or that. That's a subtle Neptune Venus karma that actually entangles us with other people's karma. So, if you think someone else's, let me give you a simple example. Actually, I'll come back to this with a later example. All right, let's keep going.

Number two, desiring what others have. This is also subtle and pervasive. See, one of the problems is that if I'm if, now, I promise you, I do not do this on the regular. But if I were to be scrolling through and saying, Oh, that's so sad that this person that I think I don't like their content, I don't think they should have so many followers. I don't think they should be as successful as I am, or I should be more successful, or something like that.

There's a subtle way in which I just want what somebody else has, and then I try to form opinions about why they're not deserving of what they have, which is actually cloaking the fact that I just desire what they have, right? This is a lesson that we're always learning. I mean, it's so simple. It's something we learn when we're kids, you know, sort of like that basic, don't covet, don't be jealous. Don't desire what other people have. Just kind of stay in your own lane.

Try to be content with what you are and what you have, and try to really be content in who you are and what you have, like really sink into it and be glad, you know, be happy so when we desire others have, whether it's their body or their health or their followers or their. Wealth or their healthy relationship, or their whatever, anything. There's a difference between saying I am inspired by the way that someone lives their life, by the choices they make, and they embody something of a leader to me, and I admire that, and so I'm going to emulate that good quality.

I think that is beautiful, and that's a good way to desire what someone else has because, really, what we're desiring is the light within ourselves to be amplified because we're seeing it in someone else. So that's beautiful. There's a difference between that, and usually, jealousy is connected to the desire for what others have. And this is a very pervasive Venus-Neptune dynamic. I want what that person has. I want something that I can't have, or that's forbidden, or that, yeah, or that there's a there's a way in which, in other words, we're comparing ourselves to other people. Now, another one.

Number three is forming opinions about what others lack. We can also very easily have this kind of charitable form of judgment that we kind of fly under the radar because we think it's a voice of charity, huh? If only that person knew this, if only that person would eat right. If only that person knew how to do this, if only this person had that. And we think to ourselves, Well, I know what someone else needs. I know exactly what someone else needs. And so when we sit around thinking,

Well, gosh, I feel bad for this person because they just need this or that, and they just don't have it. They don't know it. You know, we have to be really careful of that because there's a kind of, like, a basic mantra that we should remember with this Venus Neptune karma, which is, we have no idea what other people need, like for the most part. And I'm not saying there aren't, like, very practical, basic situations. You're a parent, you know, your kid needs food.

You know, there are ways in which we know what each other needs, and we tend to meet each other's needs. I'm talking about when we stand in judgment and say, This person needs this; this person needs that. I know what they need, really. You know, I think there's a baseline mantra that many different spiritual traditions say, which is, I don't know enough to know what I need.

So, dear universe, please guide me and help me know what I need. And if that's a prayer for ourselves, then how much more should it be something that we apply to our basic understanding of another soul, that we are not, and that we don't live in another person's soul? We don't know what it's like.

Every soul is so unique: every soul's story, soul history, every soul's relationship with the divine, and every way in which each path has been crafted and is being perfectly designed. No, we don't know what someone needs. We might have a very basic idea about what they need, but most of the time, those ideas about what someone else needs are going to entangle us again in difficult karma. It's better to say, gosh, well, if only my brother would learn to eat healthier, he'd lose that weight. If only my brother could learn to just; he just needs some self-control. What if, instead, we started with, dear universe, I have opinions and judgments and thoughts and worries and frustration with my brother?

Please take care of him because I don't know what's best for him, but I trust that his guides and the universe do, so I hand that concern over, rather than staying in the prison of my opinions, in my sense of judgment, in my sense of rightness. You know, it's just that simple, like we have to hand it back over. And let me tell you, I'm For Real when I say this. The reason I'm sitting here talking about this is not because I've mastered it. It's because this is what I have to do for myself. These are the things that I notice around Venus and Neptune dynamics.

Number four, and they get really amplified, by the way. I mean, they can become like such a soap opera level when Venus or Neptune is transiting natal Venus in your birth chart, by the way. So watch for that.

But anyhow, number four is being the right or helpful one in relationships; there is a way in which we also tend to enter and exist within relationships based on the feeling of needing to be right and helpful. I know what's right. I can be the helpful one because I know what's right, and because I'm in possession of all of the right things and ingredients, then I will maintain. I need to maintain a sense of that rightness and feel very good about myself by constantly being in the role of helper for this person.

Now, obviously, this is the basis of many codependent relationships, right? But it is very important to note that these kinds of relationships often form or dissolve under contacts from transiting Neptune to Venus in the birth chart; you will find codependent dynamics wherein you feel like you need to be the helper, the Savior, the one who I have what you need. I can help. I can be of benefit and service like this. But often, it is exactly that attitude that keeps us entangled in relationships that are ultimately not so healthy for us. Does that mean there's no room to be a helper, a servant, or a care provider?

No, of course, there's plenty of room for that. We're talking about a very specific type of Venus-Neptune dynamic, wherein we maintain a sense of our value or our validity by knowing what is right and by being helpful to people who are lost. This is why there is something like the martyr or saint complex with Venus Neptune that often shows up.

Neptune dynamics, in general, can bring this into other planets as well, but it's something to watch for because it's so subtle, right? It's so easy to think that we're doing the right thing because we've got the right knowledge and the right information, and I just want to help. But when there's this, this subtle form of I know best, I know better, it is subtle. It will hide.

So you have to watch for it and be careful of it. We think it's all or nothing. So sometimes people hear something like this, and they think, well, you're saying there's no room to ever be helpful, or there's no room to ever like, doesn't a healthcare provider know what's best for their clients and use that knowledge to help them, of course, but there's a difference between that and, you know, whatever.

Like Aunt Shireen, who says, like, I'm going to help every single person, and I have this, sorry, I just realized so Shereen, that's a great now, where I came up with that one anyway, she knows she knows better, she knows best. She'll be the right one. She'll be the helpful one.

There are actually alcoholic families in the literature of 12-step programs, not just alcoholism, but in families with addiction in general; there will often be constellated within that dynamic, a person who plays this role and it is a part of the complex, and this person will often require change in growth and healing as much as the actual addict, right, who's constantly receiving the help. So anyway, you guys, you guys are all smart enough to know what I'm talking about. I know. I know you guys know this, all right.

Number five, elevating and demoting people in cycles. This is another very Venus Neptune thing. Oh my god. This person is amazing. This is the best person ever. I'm in love with them. They're so fantastic, they're so inspired, they're so spiritual, they're so wonderful. And then a fault or a flaw arises, or they disappoint you, right?

I'll give you an example. I'll just be really real here. Over the years, here's a very simple pattern that happens to me at least a couple of times a year. Someone on social media somewhere who enjoys the content on the channel will send in a very, very, very long letter, and it's, this is always how I know, is like, Oh, we're going to this pattern, okay? And the letter will basically be like, you know, you're my guru.

You're my whatever, some, some kind of exaltation. Wow, it's really hard not to, like, Ooh, you know, get high on that one. Oh, it was really nice. Seventeen pages of glory, you know, or whatever. When I don't have the time to respond, I say thank you so much for your letter. Gosh, I'm so glad you're getting so much out of the channel; please stay in touch. Let me know how things go, right?

Because I have a million things I'm doing, and I don't have time to respond to a 17-page letter. Then the person will say, Ah, right, you've disappointed my expectations. I was thinking you were really going to engage with me in this really lengthy, long way. And, you know, pay attention to the three pages in the middle where I talked about my aunt, Shereen, or whatever it might be, and you don't. And so then you're, it looks like you're imperfect, and then you get a 17 page letter telling you that you're slime, you know, okay, and that's, that's kind of exaggerated. I don't really get 17. You get the idea.

This happens to not just me, by the way; I have, like, other content creator friends, where we have like a few private threads where we share and commiserate with this kind of dynamic, which is part of being in a public platform, where some people will just react this way because it's a human thing to do to put someone on a platform only to swipe them off from it. This is very Venus Neptune. Venus Neptune can. Fall in love with something about somebody, but then there'll be a fault or a flaw, and that fault or flaw will then be the grounds to completely demote them, and not only that, but usually degrade.

So, exaltation and fall are opposites in ancient astrology. Think about Venus in pisces exalted. Think about Venus in Virgo in the fall or any of the other planets. That cycle is familiar. Things get lifted up on high, and then, like a cup of water, they're poured out. So one of the things you should be really careful of is what you exalt with.

Venus and Neptune, the tendency is that whatever you exalt will eventually disappoint you, and so you have to be like, there's like a kind of temperance, that's the word I'm looking for, like a temperance that we carry with Venus Neptune so that we say, that's beautiful. I love that. I'm really attracted to that. And I'm sure it's humid, and I'm sure there'll be shortcomings, and I'm sure that it's, you know, I'm seeing it right now through the lens of my excitement or my infatuation. It's not wrong to have exalted feelings.

It's wrong to take them so literally that you can't understand them as energetic, like a weather system moving through and won't last forever. So be careful of greatly exalting people because the likelihood is that you've done so at the cost of valuing yourself in some way, like when we exalt people, there's a very subtle way in which we are often comparing ourselves to them, and then in order to take some kind of dignity back, we have to swipe them off the pedestal we've put them on. Right? That's a crazy thing to do if you think about it.

So anyway, but we do this, I would say the number one lesson that I've ever received in my life about this came when I went through, and you guys, most of you have followed my channel for a while, have seen me go through this. I went through a period of time where I studied with and took vows with a guru, and I did that with a guru, which is kind of part of what gurus are and what you're sort of supposed to do. But it got wrapped up for me in some.

Well, I was raised as a preacher's kid, so the role of a spiritual leader and parent has been complicated for me, and a lot of learning happened around that dynamic. The basic thing that I'm trying to say is that to the extent that we put someone up on a platform, there's often a way in which we are degrading ourselves at the exact same time we don't even realize it. And then, if we want to get something of our own value back, it's like we have to take them off the platform somehow.

Thankfully, when it came to my relationship with my guru, I realized all this was happening, and I was able to because it wasn't so severe. I was able to talk to him about this and part ways with that tradition and with his formal presence in my life in a way that was really healthy and honest, and I'm very, very grateful for that.

If I look back on earlier times in my life, more complicated dynamics, I remember there was a shaman that I worked with in the Ayahuasca realm, where I did that and then had to sort of take this person off the pedestal I had put them on, and it was a lot more turbulent because I was in a much more turbulent space, right? And so this is very human.

We do these things. It's not; I'm not trying to, you know, call out people in a way that I wouldn't do for myself, right? But Venus Neptune will have us glorifying things only to become disappointed. You know, like the Princess and the Pea kind of thing. It's like there's a small thing we find, and it gives us a reason to swipe them off the thing we've put them on. Be careful of that dynamic.

So anyway, these are five subtle Venus Neptune karmas. I hope you find them useful; if nothing else, part of what you're always getting on this channel is education about archetypes. So now you can take this forward and apply it with all Venus-Neptune dynamics that you have ever worked with. And that's what we ought to be doing.

We ought to be constantly learning new things about archetypal combinations. So, on that note, I think we'll come back tomorrow and do more on Venus Neptune. We'll turn it and have a little bit more fun and look at the, you know,

I'd say the more exciting dimensions of Venus Neptune because today might have, you know, that might have felt like a little bit of a bummer, but that's okay. I know just what you need, and I'm here to help with my super excited, happy video tomorrow. All right, bye. Bye.