Becoming a Professional Astrologer with Colleen Cara

Hey everyone, this is Acyuta-bhava from Nightlight Astrology, and today I am joined by a former student, alumni, and a very interesting astrologer Colleen Cara, who is going to be talking about her journey with professional astrology. And we're also going to talk about some of the most unique and interesting astrological artwork that she makes that I think I've ever seen before. It's, it's really unique. And one of the main reasons I wanted to have her on was to talk about how she makes these really beautiful astrological artwork installation sound audio. They're just beautiful. I don't even know what to call them, but I've never seen anything like it before. So anyway, I'm really glad to have her here today.

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The other program that I'm really excited about is the Roots and Spheres class that Ashley and I will be teaching over the course of 2023. We will be meeting before every new and full moon to discuss the astrology of the month, breaking the month into half. So we'll look at the astrology in the first half of the moon cycle and the second half of the moon cycle. And we're going to be working on creating meaningful rhythms and practices and rituals in our lives so that the astrology becomes more than just information we're taking in a more intentional spiritual connection. We're also going to be doing that by means of dieting certain plant teachers that go along with the astrological energies of each moon cycle. Right really excited to teach this program the connection between plant teachers, plant wisdom, and astrology is really old. It's as old as the dawn of astrology itself. You can save a little bit of money with the early bird payment if you want; there's a payment plan. And as always, we have tuition assistance for people who might be struggling financially; we try to make sure that no one's ever priced out if it's a course you want to take. So all of that being said, I am really excited to have Colleen Cara here today, who is an astrologer and an artist and someone who went through a couple of my programs. Colleen, Welcome.

Colleen Cara
Hi, Acyuta. It's so great to be here. Thanks.

Acyuta-bhava Dasa
Yeah, yeah, thanks for coming on. I'm going to show people as much as I can about it; I can't actually stream any of the videos that you've made and the beautiful astrological artwork that you've created. But that's a big thing I want to talk about today. And we're going to get to that. So I don't mean to like bury the lead because I think that's one of the coolest things I've ever seen. And I can't wait to talk about it. But before we get there, I want to just ask you how astrology ever can you practice; you read for people; you teach workshops. You are an astrological artist; you're an artist who marries astrology with art together. So you do a lot of things. How did you first know? How did you first get interested in astrology?

Colleen Cara
Oh, man, so I'm quite early. It came into my life. So I got my first chart actually done when I was around 20 years old. Okay. But prior to that, there was like this real turning point in my life. Like there was a day that kind of changed everything and set me off into a trajectory. And I was about I was 15 years old. It was summertime. And we used to go visit my grandmother in Western New York. And it's a rural area. And usually, it's pretty, you know, my grandmother's house would be a pretty bustling place. There's a lot of extended family out there, people coming and going. But for some reason, this particular summer, this particular period of time, there wasn't that many people around; it was me. My mom was there. I think people were just working that day. And it's strange because I must have been complaining that I was bored. Or something, you know, bored at Grandma's house in the country. And so, you know, my mom went out to do some errands. And I was sitting at the kitchen table when she got home. And I was reading like, my, I had some rock magazine, so I was really reading these magazines. And so she comes over to me, and she plopped down a sketchpad. And like, some pencils in front of me. And it was, it was like, so random, like, out of the blue, because I never expressed an interest in art at all. Like, I didn't talk about it. I didn't ask about it. It wasn't anything that I was doing, you know, be maybe, you know, like in grammar school and middle school, right? So, you know, I kind of looked at her like, what do you know, what's this all about? And she just basically shrugged, you know, like, well, you know, you're so bored, do something.

So, I started to sketch one of the images in the magazine. So I did the sketch of David Lee Roth. And this doesn't sound like it's connected maybe to the astrology, but it'll get there. So you know, so I did this sketch was the first time I'd ever done anything like this. And I, you know, it was like, Okay, wow, this is, you know, didn't come out too bad. And at that moment, I just, like, latched on to it. And like, held on for dear life, basically. Because it was, it was like, I saw it. It was like, this whole world opened up to me. And I saw it as like, Oh, yes, this is my ticket out. Like, this is my ticket. This is something I can work with. Because, you know, prior to that, what was, you know, I was interested in music, right?

So I was just, you know, and I didn't really have necessarily a direction, you know, I knew what I liked but didn't have a direction. So that set this, this series of events in motion, you know, I went, I think, when I went back to high school that year like I changed as many classes as I could and took art classes. But what really happened was, it opened me up because I started to, like, think about, you know, like, ideas and possibilities, and what's creativity and what does this mean? And how did I not know I could do this prior to this event happening. And with that kind of opening up to, you know, using my imagination more and really experiencing, you know, art as a meditation, you know, drawing is something that's a really meditative practice.

And so with that, I really started to experience like, different, you know, a different kind of spiritual phenomena, with that. So I started to be, you know, much more sensitive, much more intuitive, starting to ask questions. And, you know, that led to like investigating, like the tarot. And like, once you sort of get going down that path, you will run into astrology. And so at some point, I did, and I found out, oh, well, there's so much more than your sun sign, there's, like, you know, all of the planets, and they're in these different positions, and they can have these different meanings. So I was hooked, you know, pretty early. So, like I said, I got my first chart done when I was about 20 years old. And then life moved on, and it progressed, and I, you know, went to school, went to art school, and all of that. And, and, you know, kept on studying. So, it was always like this parallel of like, you know, doing art and then also investigating the spiritual side of life. So I was like, reading all kinds of books, like everything from like, you know, Edward Casey, like reading about Edward Casey, to you know, like Ruth Montgomery to different metaphysical stuff. And then, I got really into earth-based spirituality, especially when I was an undergraduate. And that led to, you know, different studies of, like, the goddess and nature-based spirituality, and, you know, time move forward in time move forward, and I, you know, went to Chicago and then I even further, you know, got into music, had a band for a while, was doing things in Chicago and then kept on, you know, studying, practicing, went to grad school and but you know, the astrology would come in and out, right?

So, it was like in waves, it would surface, it would recede, it would surface, and it would go away. And then after grad school, you know, did the academic thing for, you know, quite a few years, probably for the last 12 years, and I was teaching in academia. And about six or seven years ago, I was in between teaching gigs. I had made a new friend. And we were out to lunch one day, and she started talking about oh, yeah, you know, the astrology, the astrology and how it was impacting her. And I thought, oh, yeah, you know, and she turned, you know, she told, she suggested I follow a couple of people. And so I, you know, didn't even dawn on me that I could go on YouTube. And, you know, at that point, because, you know, when I started getting into it, we didn't have that, you know, there wasn't that access. And so, yeah, so I started just follow people. So yeah, for like, the last whatever, seven years, and then at some point, probably around 2019, early 2020, I found one of your videos popped up on my feed. So I started watching, and, you know, this was right around, you know, 2019 into 2020, when we had this big shift, and, and that year, you know, there was a lot of stuff that changed in my life.

I went through a lot of loss that year. So it was, you know, pretty intense and pretty, pretty profound. And then you were advertising for that fall. And, you know, I just loved, you know, how you presented your material, how you wove in the philosophy, you know, sort of just, you know, the methods of how you went about presenting astrology, and I just was like, okay, yeah, this is, this is my teacher, I have to jump into this course. And really, it was, you know, it was for just me personally; I had no intentions of being a professional astrologer, it was just like, it was helping, it was helping me so, so much. Because that's one of the most amazing things that astrology does is it gives us perspective. It gives us a bird's eye view; we can see the cycles, we can see, you know, what's happening and helps us to cope, especially when we're going through, like, really difficult times. And so I jumped in, you know, it was fantastic. And before I knew it, going through the program, I just thought, you know, I can actually, well, I can actually do this, like, this is something like I love. It makes me excited. I love that it helps people. And it does it. I mean, it really helps people. Yeah, so that was, you know, the main reason. Yeah,

Acyuta-bhava
That's an incredible story. I think, you know, I guess what I'm, was there a moment, I always like to ask this question, when did you know? Or how did you start to know that, like, this is going from a hobby and an interest or a personal, something that's working for your inner life to think, I want to do this for other people? Like, how did that happen? Was there something that happened? Or was it just a slow dawning?

Colleen Cara
Oh, it was a slow dawning. I mean, I, I knew that it was useful and helpful. And I knew I knew that I could, like, help other people with it. But there was definitely this kind of tug of war that I was having, within myself of like, I've built this whole career, like, I've kind of done all of these things that are sort of behind me, and that I'm uncertain about for the future. So it was really sort of grappling with, like, Okay, how does this integrate? How does this work in my life? You know, knowing that I wanted to do it, so but I really just, I was patient with it, and I was patient with myself to just let it unpack. Yeah, let it evolve and unpack. Yeah,

Acyuta-bhava
Yeah, I think that's really important. Because it can be quite romantic to say that there's a moment where, you know, the heavens open, the light pours down, and you receive some kind of, you know, Joan of Arc vision in the garden that, you know, like, oh, I shall become an astrologer. You know, but I think that, for a lot of people, there is a process where the inspiration, the interest, are cooking, and you don't know what's going to come out of it. And the uncertainty and the waiting and seeing are, it's so important. It's like the care, you know, you have to stir the pot once in a while. And, you know, you have to care for you also have to let it cook. And it's something like that. I think that that's far more common than, like, if I look back at my own path, there were certain moments that were like more illuminating or inspired than others, but I think like big decisions when I thought, Okay, I'm going to launch a practice. I mean, that was kind of a big moment. But the things that led up to that moment were those spaces of sacred anxiety. You know, I love this, but I don't know what I could do something was I don't know. No, I'll just keep reading, you know, and just the back and forth internally.

Collen Cara
Yeah, no, absolutely. And I was I think it's different for everybody. Right, you know, I think some people just jump right in; it's totally natural. There's, you know, no inhibitions. For me, it was just more like, no, if I'm gonna do this, if I'm going to be serious about this, I want it to, I want it to feel right. And so it just took, you know, it just took that amount of time of kind of like testing things and starting to read for people and really seeing the potential and, you know, it's actually been quite liberating. Like, there's something so liberating about the independence of it. You know. And just the exploration of meeting people and getting to know their stories, and everybody has an; everybody has an amazing story. You know, it's, yeah, it's wild.

Acyuta-bhava
I have a question for you. I read this. And I think it was, I don't know, it was a couple of days ago, it showed up in my newsfeed, it was like an astrological forum, where astrologers were discussing the validity of or the, you know, they were talking about this article, and I think it was a, you know, like a peer-reviewed scientific journal or something that had done some kind of study. And it was suggesting that people who are into astrology have a higher percentage of being narcissists. That was interesting. It's, I could have like, immediately got it, because I was like, Well, that would be like saying that, you know, there's a higher percentage of people who go into therapy who are focused on themselves or, you know, kind of like not a fair thing to say, in some ways, because astrology is about self-understanding in so many ways. But just off the top of your head, you said astrology helps people? How does it help people? And I'm thinking; I'm going to ask more people than just you this. I don't mean to put you on the spot. I'm going to ask the next person who comes on the show the same question, how does astrology help people in ways that are not just, you know, navel-gazing, self-healthy, self-obsessed? Because it's more than that, isn't it?

Colleen Cara
Oh, it's totally more than that. I mean, for one thing, it helps you understand other people. Yeah, right. So like, the judgments you might have on other people, like, oh, that person is like, too loud, too expressive, too flamboyant, you know, that person, oh, they don't know how to engage socially. You know, I mean, there's all of these judgments we can make. And then when you learn, when you learn astrology when you learn sort of the makeup of, you know, the planets and how they, how they are, you know, you it gives you this compassion and tolerance, it gives you a tolerance, it gives you compassion, and it helps you to see the world and other people in a totally different light. And it gives you perspective. And I mean, especially now and you know, a world that's like super divided and super opinionated, and super combative. It's just, it's really helpful in just understanding other people's Gods so much, so much more than that. Yeah, but I'll pause there.

Acyuta-bhava
That's a good one. That's a really good response. I hadn't thought about it from that angle, of course, I went right to the idea that really, it's carving out a space for people to engage with their experiences and with the nature of experience from a place that is, you know, self-reflective, but it's also about getting some distance from the attachments that we have to everything because suddenly they become your experiences can become like this literary mandala that you can reflect on this. These are eternal archetypal themes. And everyone experiences them in different variations. And it helps me not take myself too seriously. That's what it does for me. So I thought it was interesting. However, one of the things that I do, one of the reasons I do interviews like this, and that I focus on things like the Tao Te Ching for astrologers and stuff like that is to remember, what is our spiritual or psychological purpose for doing this? And something more than just, I'm obsessed with the daily astrology news, you know?

Now, on that note, I want to ask you a question because I set this up to lead into what I think is one of the most unique things I've ever seen, which is the artwork that you're making, which is astrological in nature. Here's your website, wildflowerastrology.com. You have a bunch of services, so I would really I would point everyone to get a reading. Your services are right here; people can check those out. You've got a sliding scale donation-based offering, too, so I really appreciate that I've always been very happy to see people come out of my program, and I, you know, I kind of pump it up to everyone. Like, you know, try to include this that's kind of something that I'm passionate about. So I love that you do that. You've got a wild circle workshop. I won't go into that. But I want to show everyone, and here's your art, too, in case people want Astro drama. This is fantastic. I want better than me trying to describe it and sounding like an idiot. How about you tell us about this? And what it is how it was conceived? And?

Colleen Cara
Yeah, so I had been again, you know, I said prior, just letting this whole experience unfold, you know, pretty slowly, and I had been dragging my feet a little bit in terms of, like, I had dabbled in doing some forecast writing. And I've been just kind of really thinking about it. Like, what do I want to do that really feels like me, that's you may be a little bit different. And finally, one day, I just said, alright, you just gotta, you gotta sit down, you have to just start writing. So I started writing, and that first one that I did, Jawad Aviv, I started to cast the planets as characters in kind of like a scene. Right? So that was that first one that I wrote. And, you know, I was talking about Venus in her garden of Delights. And you know, I just sort of rolled out the scene. And so it just kind of went from there. And I just, and I thought, well, you know, which I've thought for a long time, like, you know, we have these, we experience these dramas every day, we're, you know, life is a drama. And the way the sky speaks is, is a drama, it's theater. And I thought, well, this is like a celestial theater. And I thought, Okay, well, this is something that I can really shape and get excited about. And it's, you know, a type of forecast writing that's a little different than maybe people what people would be normally used to. But I mean, I think people are doing it in so many different ways that, you know, it's just another way to experience the transits and what's happening in the sky. And, you know, sometimes I'll be really specific, and I'll really sort of pull in like a lot of transits and shape, whatever the story of the drama is around that. Sometimes I'm referring to things in like pop culture. So you know, with the Dionysus rapture, I'm talking about Jim Morrison, and I'm talking about, you know, Mars square, Pluto. Um, um, you know, I have a background in media arts, and, you know, different things like that. So, like, sometimes I've referenced films, I'll be talking about a film and comparing it to pulling, pulling the transits into talking about the film. So that's basically how it started. And you know, and I committed to doing one a week, which is, you know, it's definitely like, oh, gosh, what am I going to write about? Write about this week because that pressure is on, right? Um, but you know, something always pops up. And sometimes, you know, sometimes it's a poem like this sweetly blinded one that was more of a poem. So there, you know, their poems, their audio dramas. The honey guzzle one is pretty, pretty hilarious because that was it; it was a true story that happened to my friend about this, this bear that got into her house, right, with the, when Mars was conjunct Uranus in the north node. And it was just it was so it was just like, so speaking to that, to that transit that, you know, the bear got in, and it was like, got into her honey and the maple syrup and the crackers. And, you know, she had never had an experience anything happened like that in the ten years that she lived there. And then all of a sudden, you know, during this transit, so crazy things like that. So yeah, so I'm just, I'm just playing with it and having and having fun with it.

Acyuta-bhava
Yeah, I mean, if I click on this, you can see that there's a video page that pops up; I can't play it because it tends to frag out the stream. But just so people understand. You, you come in here into this celestial theater, and they audio, their visual, their spoken word there, they're very interesting. So I just really hope that everyone will go and check it out. Because I just love what you're doing. I mean, it's it. I think, you know, as astrologers, you got your standard stuff like teaching astrology or giving readings or creating content. It's the content piece that is so wide open right now. Because we have a stage that's pretty wide open with things like YouTube and obviously the internet and social media and so forth. And what really caught my eye about these Astro dramas is that I have never seen anything like it before. It's totally unique. It's very creative. And if we're going, people talk all the time about astrology evolving. And in my humble opinion, the evolution doesn't happen by adding more layers of theory; I'm fine with that if people want to add the outer planets, you know, all sorts of asteroids or minor aspects or whatever. And I don't have a problem with that. But I don't think that astrology evolves simply because you add more stuff in terms of technique. I think it evolves in terms of how creatively we imagine the symbols along as life keeps going along.

So, what I love about this series is that in watching some of these, I feel like if you sit with them and take them in like you would go into an art gallery, but you have knowledge of the symbols of astrology. They're making you think about the symbols in new, completely new ways. It's like, you know, the symbols, but these pieces of art just bring them out in ways that are very unique, and it reminds me of the daimon. We've talked about the daimon in class; of course, you've heard me talk about that. We've had Shawn Nygaard, my good buddy, come and talk about the daimon this summer. You said something earlier about when your grant was that your grandmother that handed you the pat the writing pad or the skinny? Yeah, it was your mom. Okay? So it was your mom? She was you were at Grandma's house, though, right? Yeah. Okay, so she hands you the sketchpad. And then you said I just held on for dear life. And to me, that's like, that's grabbing the coattails of that daimon, that spirit that has its own agenda for our lives. And we if the only thing we can really do is be in service to it, or just like, hold on to it.

I had a dream the other night, Colleen, where I was, I was in this dark place. It was like almost like Disney World. But all the lights were off. It was like a theme park of some kind. And I went into this dark, darkened, like an arena where there was a roller coaster inside the arena. And the roller coaster was active. But I was there was no one like manning it, you know, like no one there like welcome in buckle up. And, you know, so all that so, and I got on the ride. And there were other people like tentatively getting on. And the roller coaster took off, and it didn't have any handles to hold on to. And so I just had to kind of like brace myself. And as it was twisting and turning and just going at the speed of light. I just there was this kind of knowing that like a voice, just kind a Gnosis that was like you, anything that you love will be a ride like this. You know, anything you really love will be a ride like this. And I just I remember, I woke up, and I wrote it down because I was like, oh my god, that was a really profound dream. And I was reflecting afterward on how, whether it's been astrology or, I don't know, like family life with my kids or something, the things that I love the most. It's exactly like you said; it's like, hold on for dear life. Yeah. And that one of them, to me, one of the, I have to check in and make sure am I still holding on for dear life? Or have I tried to develop some safety rails and you know, like, have I. And one of the ways I personally know that I'm holding on for dear life and letting the daimon sort of lead me where it will is if there is some element of risk and creatively in what I'm doing. There's some fear of, like, I have to say this, I feel like I have to do it, it has to come out. But I don't know how it'll be received. Or, you know, there's some like creative tension. Anyway, I felt that very strongly. When you were describing the sketchpad, and again, when I would say, when I hear you talk about the series and how you make it, and the pressure you feel around it, to me, it's the same thing.

Colleen Cara
Yeah. Yeah. No, that's so amazing. That's such an amazing dream. What's interesting, too, about it is sometimes these moments, and with that moment, in particular, it was so subtle, and I could have easily just knocked it aside. Right? Like it was that subtle, you know, there was no reason there really was no reason for me to pick up that pencil. Right there was, but for some reason, I did, and sometimes some of these moments are so subtle, they're like whispers. You know, they'll come in as a whisper, and maybe they'll, you know, maybe would have shown up another way right and more down the line maybe would have come back I have no idea. But you know, they come as whispers, and it's just like, you know, over and over like you know, the astrology it proves itself. I see it in my own life. I see it in other people's lives. I see turning points, you know, that happen that are major turning points that evolved from like, this kind of a whisper like, oh, it was just like this really simple thing that happened, and then it just, you know, it changed my life.

Acyuta-bhava
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I was just thinking. I heard someone say this at some point. And you know, I don't remember who said it. But the idea that love the things you what you said about, there was no reason, right? And it's like, isn't that the nature of love too? It's like, well, there's, there's, you don't need a reason to love. That's what's so amazing about Love. It needs no justification or no reason. I think a lot about that poem by Mary Oliver, wild geese. Like, just letting your soft animal body love what it loves, you know, just kind of just allowing to, and that saw, it's the same thing that's soft. It's subtle, right? It's, and it's often soft. And I love that we're bringing because your artwork, in my opinion, is very bold, right? And in sort of provocative and really interesting and fun. Yeah, but I love that your story, all the way up to the creation of this kind of astrological artwork, begins with something very subtle, and there was a lot of uncertainty in the way that you're calling in as an astrologer at least gestated, like your calling as an artist was slow and developmental. And yeah, yeah. Yeah. This has been really interesting. What else could I share about what you're up to right now? Or is there anything else we could share with the audience about what you're doing?

Colleen Cara
Yeah, so I'm obviously doing reading. There's, there's a workshop that I'm going to be offering if they want to check that out where I'm actually, like, it's going to be a small workshop, there are only ten people in it. And that is the not the wild circle about? No, let's see. Can you click on the workshops again? Or maybe? Okay, there it is. Yeah, so this wild creative, right workshop is a five-week workshop that we're going to explore, like art and photography and writing if you're interested in that, but more through the lens of the planets and the archetypes and using that as a prompt. So if you have questions, you can email me about that. And I am trying to start a Patreon. You know, that would meet twice a month for the Lunation Cycles. So if you want to check that out, too. It's under the workshops as well. So those are two things that I'm starting to do. I mean, your Roots and Spheres workshop sounds amazing. I was watching the video with you and Ashley when you did it recently, and it's Wow, it's it looks fantastic. So yeah,

Acyuta-bhava
I'm really excited. I'm excited to see people doing this kind of thing where the goal is really, let's, let's embody, let's embody the astrology, let's bring it into a more participatory sphere. I mean, I make content so that people can listen to it, you know, on their headphones, or driving to work or whatever. But I think to take it outside the sphere of information exchange and into a space of action, whether that's through art, or, you know, obviously, there are great therapists who use astrology, but I think, you know, for Ashley and I, a lot of that is going to be hopefully involving some herbs, herbal teachers and stuff like that. But I was just thinking, as I was looking at that course, you know, when I was in my MFA in creative writing, I, we had to read not just from the standpoint of developing craft, but from the standpoint of looking at artistic pedagogy. We had to read The Artists Way, I think. Have you ever read that before? Right? Yeah. Wouldn't it be cool if there was an artist's way for astrologers? Totally. It sounds like that's kind of what your course is, like, in a nutshell. I mean, like, that's just what I thought of instantly.

Colleen Cara
Yeah, you know, I'm just, I'm testing things out. I'm trying things. And so, you know, things will evolve over time, I'm sure. But as I said, you know, there's like this new incredible amount of freedom that I'm feeling in terms of, you know, how to go about, you know, how do we talk about art? How can we look through the lens of astrology? How can we kind of look, look at our charts, and that workshop in particular also comes with like private mentoring sessions, so you get the workshops, and you get some mentoring, as well. So um, yeah, so I'm really excited about that.

Acyuta-bhava
Yeah. Well, okay, let's end with one last question. And everybody check out Kelly's work, both the Astro drama that we were looking at and the upcoming workshops and other services that she provides at wildflowerastrology.com. But Colleen, I want to leave you with one last question, which is people who are just getting into astrology, they're maybe they're taking some of my courses like you did. Or somebody else's courses. They're starting to think about doing this. What one good piece of advice or maybe two pieces of advice that you have for people who are just starting on the path of study?

Colleen Cara
Yeah. Well, let yourself really just have the experience, like, be open to the experience, be open to the teaching, go at your own pace, like you don't have to compare yourself to like how other people might be jumping into it or doing it. You know, be true to yourself and what it means to you. I mean, it is it's a very personal process. And I think everybody, you know, has their own way of moving forward with it. One of the other things that I've done is, you know, I've reached out to other people, astrologers that I really admire and resonate with, and, you know, connected to people that way. So, getting mentoring from, you know, other astrologers that who've, like, I've worked with Cat a little bit, you know, a while ago, so just if you have the means just reaching out to different people like that, and I'm working with a couple of other astrologers right now, too. And so, you know, that's really, really helpful. Um, you know, and if you're taking Acyutas' class, you're in really good hands. It's an amazing program. You know, it's solid.

Acyuta-bhava
Thank you. That's really nice of you. I'm, yeah, I'm just what I'm really thrilled about is that cool, people come to this class, like, like yourself, who make cool things, and that I can then share what you're doing and, and try to support the people who come through my program. Because, you know, to me, there's, you know, I, I've always operated under the belief that when you take joy in other people's success and other people's abilities that it makes, somehow it makes me more interesting and creative in my own work. So I just really appreciate you and everything that you're doing and, yeah, and some of the inspiration that you've given me this summer and some of the ways that I've been thinking about symbols, looking at your series, so thank you for everything you're doing. It's really cool.

Colleen Cara
Oh, Acyuta, thank you so much. It's like such a pleasure to be invited and to speak with you. And then also I just have to, you know, reciprocate the thanks and that like, you know, how you show up for your students and how you show up for the astrology and like, the depth in the Spirit, and the consciousness that you bring to it is just amazing.

Acyuta-bhava
Oh, thanks. Thanks. We would need a big hug if we were in person right now. Thank you so much for being here. Colleen. I really appreciate it. Everyone, be sure you check out Colleen on Instagram Astro_wildflower or her website wildflowerastrology.com. Really appreciate it before you go. Don't forget to like and subscribe and share your comments. Click the notification bell for updates. Don't forget we've got two classes pre-registration sale last until September 12. In those two classes hope to see some of you in those classes when they start in the beginning of the new year. So thank you guys for listening, and we will talk to you again soon. Bye