Today at long last, Saturn has entered the sign of Pisces. And we have been working with Saturn through Saturn's own domiciles in the sign of Capricorn and Aquarius for over five years.
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Hey everyone, this is Adam Elenbaas from Nightlight Astrology, and today, at long last, Saturn has entered the sign of Pisces. We have been working with Saturn through Saturn's own domiciles in the sign of Capricorn and Aquarius for over five years. And so it is, I think, just for everyone; it's been everyone who studies astrology regularly; there's been a lot of talk and hope and contemplation about what it might be like, you know, to have Saturn, out of its own domiciles and into a kind of a totally different space.
So we're going to explore Saturn's entrance into Pisces today. And we're going to look at five different themes that I think you can count on seeing around you or experiencing within you over the next couple of years. And we're also going to talk along with those five themes about five gifts that Saturn can bring us as we experience these different themes.
Yesterday, we took a look at the historical Saturn in Pisces. And I think what we're going to do tomorrow is we're going to take a look at the combination of Saturn and Neptune because what's happening is not only a Saturn entering the sign of Pisces, but Saturn is about to enter the same sign that Neptune is currently in and will eventually move together with Neptune in the sign of Aries, but they are now co-present in that same whole sign house. So like, they're hanging out in the same at the same house party. Right. So when they're in, they're both in the house, it's like some VIP guests, you know, they're both hanging out in the sign of the fish, this mystical water sign, and they are going to end up together in Aries.
So this begins a couple of years where this buildup is starting to occur between Saturn and Neptune. We're also going to look at that in a separate video, especially by examining the work of the great archetypal astrologer Richard Tarnas and some of what he's had to say about the historical collective signature of Saturn Neptune periods. So we'll do that tomorrow.
Today, we're just going to focus on some of the main themes that you can expect to see with Saturn in Pisces over the next couple of years. We'll give you the timeline. And then we'll talk about some of the gifts or, you know, lessons that people seem to learn with that placement in their charts that I've noticed in my practice, from working with people who are born with Saturn in Pisces, as well as reflecting on some of the lessons learned during the 1990s. And you know, in my own life, I was pretty young. But there were some really good lessons. I mean, there was a period of time in my life that ended up becoming of central importance to the book that I would end up writing that was published in 2010.
A lot of what happened during that period would perpetuate the entire spiritual journey that I would take with ayahuasca for a decade of my life. So lots of reflections that we can hopefully share with each other too. I'd love to hear from you guys as well. So before we get into it, don't forget to like and subscribe and share your comments today. If you have a story to tell us the hashtag, grabbed, and share your story in the comments section about Saturn's entrance into Pisces.
Some of you may notice it right away. You know, for example, this morning, I have bedhead. So I'm like, you know, and I'm just gonna have to record, I could have thrown a hat on, but I was like, No, Saturn is moving into Pisces. And I'm feeling like just being nice and messy. So you guys get to look at my sleepy bedhead face this morning, and you should feel lucky.
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Okay, let's take a look at the timeline of Saturn's entrance into Pisces and just give you a feel for how it's gonna go, which we did yesterday. But let's do it again today; just review. All right, so here is Saturn's entrance into the sign of Pisces. And so Saturn's entrance into Pisces is going to take us all the way into 2026, Although there are some Retrogrades that come along with this.
So let's watch how Saturn goes. And I'm going to remove everything from our perspective now, except for Saturn, so that we can kind of focus or isolate right on just that symbol. All right, here we go. So here is Saturn in Pisces, and I've advanced the chart a little bit already, but let's go ahead, And I'll stick this out now. So you can see Saturn moving along, gets to about seven degrees or so in June, turns retrograde, it's going to dip back all the way down to zero degrees by the fall, turns direct again, and then pushes along.
So this back and forth of Saturn continues until Saturn barely enters the sign of Aries around the end of May, beginning of June of 2025; it will then retrograde back into Pisces, and it spends the latter part of 2025 from September all the way into let's see here right about February in Pisces again.
So it technically is in Pisces all the way into 2026, although there's a back and forth between Aries and Pisces and part of 2025. So, you know, that's the timeline. What I want to do today is present you with, aside from bedhead as a major theme, or starting to not care. Saturday in Pisces, this world, I don't care.
Five themes to watch for. And these are in no particular order, you know, not like an order of importance or prevalence or anything like that; they're all you know and will add to the list. But to me, these are themes that you can pretty much count on because Saturn in Pisces works according to the nature of Saturn, combined with the nature of water, the feminine double-bodied nature of Pisces, the fact that it is coming at the very end of the winter series of signs moving us into spring. And the fact that it is the feminine domicile of Jupiter and the exultation of Venus. So with those things in mind, we can see there are certain archetypal combinations that you can see reflected in Saturn's placement within all of those different themes and qualities of the sign of Pisces, and I'll try to break those down as we go and explain to you how each theme is also related. Because I think that's really helpful if you're, you know, kind of learning astrology.
So, let's begin Number one; I use the phrase Helplessly Hoping. I don't know if you guys know that song; I think it's called Helplessly Hoping by Crosby, Stills Nash. But it's there is a sense in Pisces of being helpless; it could be helpless in love. It could be helpless, as in down on your luck. And it could be helpless, as in the feeling that something bigger than you, some energy or emotion or fate, or destiny is overwhelming you, and the feeling of overwhelm is really important because Pisces is a sign that has a lot of, there's a melancholy and a romantic, emotional quality to the sign of Pisces. And this is also a jupiterian ruled sign, and so that sense of emotional harmony, unity, beauty, togetherness, cohesiveness, we all live with that in our lives, more or less, or we've lived with a feeling that it is, you know, missing or broken.
This transit, in part, can amplify the feeling that something bigger than us, and often kind of ominous or slightly unfortunate, or just the feeling of fate, of have different kinds of limitations or frustrations, has come in and created a feeling of discord and overwhelm. So help the feeling of being helpless.
Now there's also what comes with this is, not just the feeling that, well, I'm feeling helpless, and everything is bad. It's I'm feeling helpless. And I really don't know where this is going. It's some of the things that come in with Saturn in Pisces are often the It's the feeling of, well, this is a this is something I wasn't expecting. It's very overwhelming. It's nothing like there's nothing I can really do about it. And then I hope that it's doing something amazing. Maybe it is, but I don't know. So there's this quality of feeling helpless. But then also, there's an ambiguity about the forces of fate that come in with Saturn in Pisces, where you may feel like, well, maybe this was a good thing. You know, but I don't know so that the helplessness and the sense of hope and faith amidst twists and turns that come in and sometimes feels sort of tragic or just unexpected.
That feels like they're beyond your control. The hand of something bigger has come in and challenged, whether it's your worldview or some established sense of unity and harmony in your life. But there's also a sense of fakeness that can give you, like, this unique sense of there being a purposeful, orderly reason for what's happening, even if it's difficult.
For example, you know, I talk to people all the time. And sometimes when a family member goes through a really challenging time, like some, suddenly you're like, God, my brother's suddenly going through this horrible divorce. And, you know, it's not directly impacting you, but you're super close to your brother. Suddenly you realize that, and then and then Mom gets sick, you know, and all of a sudden, you're like, Well, I don't know what's going on here, but there's some kind of destabilization period that's happening. It feels very meaningful; I think it's going to end up impacting me somehow, but I don't know how yet, right.
It will often, like Saturn in Pisces will, start; it starts pouring in through the cracks the hand of fate. And because there's such a feeling of the inevitable with Saturn, and the feeling of things that you can't control and, and limits or faded, heavier, more consequential or serious events that come in, you can feel rather helpless. But again, what's interesting is that there's also this quality of yearning and hoping maybe this is turning the page, you know, it's almost like, you just you ever had one of those moments where you get something starts happening, and you go like, Okay, well, I wasn't expecting that. But, like, this is interesting; we'll see where this goes.
Such a Saturn and Pisces kind of quality, and Saturn behaves that way and other signs too. But one of the more like, I would say Saturn in Scorpio, for example, although a lot deeper, heavier, slower burn with Saturn in Scorpio, but Saturn in Pisces is interesting because, in that double-bodied sign, it points toward these kinds of transitional states. And they're a little bit more fluid and dynamic than, say, Scorpio. But there's equally a sense of fatedness that comes with them. And so again, helpless but hoping.
Sometimes there's also a helpless, hopeful quality, like rope sort of romantic, you know, sort of a romantic ideation, a romantic sense of longing for something that's sort of impossible. And we've talked about that before. We're Saturn in Pisces on my channel, kind of a melancholic quality, which, actually, for many people, although it's a little uncomfortable, can be super generative creatively. So where poetry comes from, it's where good music comes from. But there's a feeling of being overwhelmed and of sort of feeling helpless. But then maybe you draw or extract some kind of romantic virtue out of that suffering. So helplessly hoping. Now I have five gifts that go along, and I want to follow these gifts that come along with the five themes. So the gift of helplessly hoping is that dissatisfaction can actually be beautiful.
Dissatisfaction I mean, broadly speaking, like, I don't like the way that turned out. I don't like that this happened. I don't like that I can't have something. I don't like things the way that they are. And there's emotional angst that comes with it. But if we can sort of hug that angst. And we learned that it is the poets, it's the mystics, it's the dreamers, it's the lovers that tend to develop some kind of complicated friendship with the state of dissatisfaction. And so that's a gift that we can try to receive while Saturn is in Pisces that comes along with the helplessness and the hoping.
Number two is back to the five themes to watch for sacrifice debt, and surrender. Pisces is a sign that points to collectives both through, it's very romantic, but because it's the feminine sign of Jupiter in a water sign, it tends to point to places where there are emotional unity amongst people. Now, it could point to emotional unity amongst people as in a body of believers or as in a group of like-minded, you know, activists who come together to try to support a cause that people have a lot of deep emotional investment in.
For example, I think of a few of my students in classes who have strong Pisces placements over the years, who are oftentimes very involved in advocating for, you know, different things that their kids struggle with, like different, you know, whether it's stuff they were born with, or stuff that, you know, develops along the way and trying to raise awareness about how kids what kids need in schools for different kinds of things that they're dealing with, and there's Pisces in that. There's Pisces energy, and there's a sense of collective unity and the things in order to with Saturn in Pisces, they will amplify the sense that something needs fixing that's broken and that greater emotional cohesion can be built. But there's a sense of obligation of the necessary sacrifices or the needed sacrifices if you want to get somewhere if you want to build some kind of coalition or some kind of unity or create some better order where there's something broken.
So sacrifice, and the feeling of debt comes with it too, like, I'm indebted, I'm obligated, and even like complicated qualities of like martyrdom, like maybe you should take yourself off the hook, maybe you don't owe anyone anything. But there's a feeling of like, well, I'm indebted to some collective form of identity. I'm, I somehow, like, you know, interestingly, when Saturn was in Pisces, I'll just share the story.
This is in my 11th house. So Saturn in Pisces in my 11th house, which was a place of groups and communities. When I was at this age and stage of life, I became deeply involved in a committee that was, what can I call it, like a Statewide Youth Ministry committee. And I was, you know, part of the leadership of a group of like teenagers that helped shape all of these big events for kids in the Methodist Church around the state of Minnesota. And, you know, I just, I remember the feeling of, like, this divide between my loyalty and sense of obligation to this religious youth group type of stuff. And my sort of secular life at school with, like, a totally different group of friends who were not oriented or interested in like, you know, like, like Christian stuff, right?
I remember this just feeling torn up inside about, you know, me as an individual versus me as beholden to like a group. And that's something that comes in, in part, through Pisces because we have such a collective orientation with the Jupiter rules, feminine, watery place of Pisces, water gathers together water in Pisces, and Jupiter Science speaks to different kinds of unities through faith and beliefs and things like that. So the feeling of being obligated to collectives in some way, and the feeling of surrendering your individual identity for some kind of group or collective. That can be very complicated in Pisces sometimes.
I remember, you know, it got to a certain point later in my life where I had, I end up being a youth pastor. And then I ended up having to say, I can't do this, as it is not something that I can do any longer. And interestingly, it was Saturn transits that were all involved in some of those decisions. And the thing that got me looped into the youth ministry, and the feeling of obligated ness to that kind of world, let's call it, started when Saturn was in Pisces, in my 11th.
Anyway, long story short, the feeling of being indebted to different groups or communities and the tension between the indebtedness you feel to some kind of collective versus the need or desire to pull away from it, to surrender into it and yield some form of individuality versus to take yourself off the hook or to forgive yourself and to say, Look, I am not going to feel indebted to some kind of community, and I have to step away. And then there's a sense of solitude and alienation. All of those kinds of tensions can come along with Saturn in Pisces, which I think is fascinating.
So sacrifice the necessary sacrifice, not needing to sacrifice the feeling of debt, taking yourself off the hook, surrendering something of the individual to a collective, versus stepping away from a collective potentially feeling alienated. All of those tensions can come with Saturn in Pisces.
Now, the five gifts. Two is Letting Go Hurts but Heals. And this is a truth whether you're going from something more individual towards something more collective and letting go of something of your individual identity for the sake of being a part of something bigger or serving something bigger or if you're needing to step away from some collective sense of obligation for the sake of your individuality. Either way, the truth is that when we're faced with those kinds of decisions, letting go hurts, but it's often the most healing thing that we can do for ourselves. And so I would just say one of the lessons of Saturn in Pisces is regardless of which direction you're letting go in. That sense of surrender and of letting go is often the hardest thing to do. But the most healing and beneficial thing we can do, even if for a while it makes us feel like you know we're walking it alone or we have surrendered little elements of ourselves as a part of some greater compromise.
Theme number three is an Emotional Paradigm Change. Remember that Saturn in Pisces is going to take several years, and this is a double-bodied sign that leads into the first sign of spring in Aries. And so this is a sign that represents a kind of liminal space, a transitional space. It's a jupiterian Piscean, it's a jupiterian water sign feminine, so we're talking about relationships that connect us to other people in groups through faith and beliefs. But it's also deeply personal, it's interpersonal, it's subjective, and it's a space that honors the relationship between our beliefs, our collective identity or identities, or where we participate in how they make us feel. How those participations or groups make us feel how belief systems that we participate in on a personal level make us feel.
So the potential for an emotional, subjective, interpersonal, and sort of intellectual or spiritual paradigm change to be happening over the next couple of years is a really pronounced part of Saturn's journey through Pisces. So where's the gift in that? Well, to me, it's similar to surrendering, but it's a little bit different.
The third gift that goes along with that theme is that All Things Pass. And by that, what I mean is that it's okay to say that we need some kind of transition; we need a revision, or revisioning, or review of how we participate in the world, how it connects us to others, whether the way we're currently connecting with other people in the world is making us you know, happy or granting us feelings of, of peace and well being an inspiration. And it's okay to go through transitions where we have to reconfigure our worldview and the kinds of people that puts us in touch with and the kinds of feelings that evokes or doesn't evoke. So, you know, it is okay for change and transition to taking place, even when it's heavier and harder. And there's more personal emotional investment in the things that we in the groups or people we know and the ways that those things are changing.
All right, well, number four is aligning with those who hurt as we hurt. Now, there's no shortage of this in the world in terms of, like, Well, where am I going to identify? I don't know, in social in my social media, likes, like, you know, like, like, like. Where am I? Where am I? Where am I going to feel? Who do I feel aligned with? Or where do I locate myself in terms of small or big social realities? Well, one of the ways that we tend to do that is to pool together with those that hurt along the same lines that we do.
So, for example, if your masculinity is hurting, you might look for content or communities online that talk about men's health or, you know, recovering or restoring masculinity in society or something like society. So, it's like, every time I say it, I have to catch myself; it's like a game of tag. Or it's like, well, I, I am looking for feminine empowerment. So, you know, I identify with groups of women who have experienced domestic abuse or something like that.
I don't think there's anything wrong with this. Because one of the ways that we can find community is to find people who have been through similar hurts and traumas and had to draw from those experiences wisdom, perseverance, or whatever. But it's unique how Saturn in Pisces will say, why don't you find the group of people that hurt and that their hurt looks the way that your hurt does or kind of feel similarly.
Now, I think you have to be careful with this because one of the things that can happen is Saturn in Pisces can be a little bit like a pity party. Where, you know, it's like, like, I think so much of the alternative grungy rock stuff that was happening in the 90s Around this time was that I was so getting so enamored by, and a lot of it was like, screw everyone, man, you know like we all hurt. And like, you know, there's benefit to finding people who's disgruntled-ness whose pain whose angst gives you grants a feeling of almost like transcendence that your pain is shared is a very important thing to understand that your pain has a communal dimension, a historic and archetypal dimension, that your pain is the pain of millions of people across you know, 1000s of years.
This is a very powerful truth that Saturn in Pisces can deliver to us, as well as all of the ways that people have dealt with pain from mystics and therapists and, you know, the physical ways that we try to address our suffering. So aligning with those who heard as we heard is a great gift of Saturday and Pisces but also the potential to perpetuate a, you know, like a constant state of like, well, what get what grants me dignity somehow is my pain. And there's a certain sense in which I guess that's true, you know, that how we suffer is what we suffer is part of where and how we reiterate our dignity.
But there's also something about the pity party of Saturn and Pisces that you can't, you can't get lost in it. So it's like, it's a fine line. Anyway, the gift that I put with this one is that Sorrow is a Lake, and a lake is nourishing; a lot of communities need to live near water, they need to live near water so that they can all draw from a common source of well, a place of nourishment. A place of commonality, water draws everyone together because everyone needs watering, everyone's made of water, and so forth.
So there's something that can be about our hurts and the way we come together in relation with our hurts that is truly unifying and harmonizing and supportive. If we look for how we are similar because we suffer, there's great wisdom in that, of course; the other truth is that you, it's like, generally speaking, you have to be careful that when you're drawing from a lake, you know, you want to get clean water. And oftentimes, I remember when I was a kid, we go backpacking, and you know, if you're gonna get water to, maybe you filter the water, you boil it, or there are different ways of treating the water to make sure we're safe to drink.
One of the lessons when I took, actually, my church youth group, we did, we had like lessons in backpacking and went up to the Boundary Waters Canoe Area and stuff like that. And one of the lessons was like, take water, where you see it's kind of white and rushing, like, in a river, you want to try to get it at that spot because it's less likely to have whatever the bacteria are. So and that was something I remember hearing; I hope that's true. I remember hearing that.
So the point is that lakes can also while it can collect together, and there's something very beautiful about that image of the support and nourishment that everyone needs water that you build a city around the Well, it's an aging lesson as well, that there's something about stagnation too. And so what pools together can represent, you know, kind of like collective stagnations, around hurt and pain, rather than movement and sharing in suffering as something redeeming or as something that can bring us together and find help us find support. So, you know, the potential it's like, everybody sings the blues, but you know, sometimes what's the phrase, The Blues is nothing but a good man feeling bad. You know, we can't forget that. We, you know, you, the good man, feeling bad doesn't always feel bad. You know, and the goal is not to just like, Okay, you feel bad, I feel bad. Okay, good. Let's stay forever feeling bad because at least we're together in it, you know what I mean? So Sorrow is a Lake, be careful of stagnation.
The fifth theme is Unknowing and Humility. There's a way in which Saturn in Pisces forces us to let go of certainty, let go of thinking that we know things. There is a sense of sacred doubt, with Saturn in Jupiter sign, and of not knowing where things are going and of humility. There's a humbleness that comes in not knowing where things are going or in having to let go of things. And the fifth gift is that, ironically, you know, letting go of certainty and going into a period of ambiguity or unknowing. It's not only humbling, but it can build contentment. We're tested, our faith is tested, not so much, you know, by how well we can hold everything we know. But how steady we can stay, especially when the inevitable periods of unknowing and uncertainty come along. If we're comfortable with uncertainty, if we're comfortable with liminal spaces, transitions, and doubts, then those are the places from within which we build a kind of contentment. And so there's a great mystical, contemplative quality to Saturn and Pisces that can help us build contentment through, you know, some choppy waters.
Anyway, I hope that you guys enjoyed this exploration of some of the themes of Saturn into Pisces and some of the gifts that I certainly am going to try to remember as this transit passes along from me and my bedhead this morning. I hope that you're having a great day and that you will share with us some of your stories. Don't forget to use the hashtag grabbed or email your stories to grabbed@nightlightastrology.com, and don't forget to like and subscribe before you go. It really helps the channel to grow. Hope you guys are having a good one. And I look forward to more on Saturn and Neptune tomorrow. Take it easy Bye.
Shona
I love your presentations! You explain the transits so well and so thoroughly. I look forward to listening to them always. Thank you!
Joie Watson
I love the image used to illustrate this post about this mystical time. Is it just me or is this intentionally reminiscent of the later days of the Dawn Treader’s journey in Mr. Lewis’ wonderful Voyage of the Dawn Treader?! I can just hear the fearless mouse Reepicheep saying, “Sweet!” after tasting the water their ship sailed upon. I’m also being reminded of my favorite line/call from the whole Narnia series, from The Last Battle, “further up and further in.” It feels to me this is what our Universe is saying to us. As above, below, and in the land of Narnia. Adam, many thanks for your generous daily teaching here and I am also so glad to be a student in your first “Roots and Spheres” class.
Tracey Chaplin
Thanks Adam, great insights as usual. Particularly found the reference to the ‘drinking from the same well or lake water but seeing that as nourishing but also to take note of the connections that may be overwhelming there too’.