Today I have the third and final part in a series of talks on Jupiter's upcoming conjunction with Saturn, in the sign of Aquarius. In this talk, I cover Jupiter and Saturn square to Uranus, what it means to have a Saturn return in Aquarius and how to interpret Jupiter and Saturn in your birth chart.
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Hi everyone this is Acyuta-bhava from Nightlight Astrology and today we are going to take some time to conclude our series on Jupiter and Saturn's upcoming conjunction in the sign of Aquarius. Today we're going to be looking at a few last things on my list including Jupiter the fact that Jupiter is also going to be square to Uranus that Saturn is going to be square to Uranus. What are these combinations archetypally speaking? We're also going to look at an example of a famous Saturn return in Aquarius and give some people out there tips for those of you who are dealing with Saturn returns in Aquarius right now, whether it's your first or your second, rarely see thirds, but maybe. And we're also going to talk a little bit about how to interpret Jupiter Saturn in your birth chart, I'll give you some resources for that. Along the way, there's a few texts and passages that will recommend you for further reading. There's some really good things that you can pick up to read more about Jupiter and Uranus and Saturn and Uranus and things like that.
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You have Jupiter and Saturn about to change signs, and they're going to do so pretty much simultaneously you have Saturn moving in on the 17th and then on the 19th you have Jupiter moving in, and then by the 21st you have the two planets conjoining at the zero degree marker of Aquarius, which is also very auspicious degree, those Cardinal degrees of the signs. They are the at the inceptional degree, the degree that marks the ingress. The big change that you often feel when a planet changes whole sign houses in your chart, that's tracked back to that zero degree. So people always ask if there's any significance to having a planet at zero degrees in your birth chart my experience is: not really. But by transit when a planet hits zero degrees you can feel it. Sometimes not as immediately with slower moving planets like Jupiter and Saturn. But this is a big one and it's big because it's happening on the winter solstice, which is also this cardinal turning point in the symbolism of the zodiac and the symbolic progression of the alternation between light and dark, the darkest point, in a symbolic sense here in the Northern Hemisphere. It's a very pivotal moment where the light is returning, a new era is dawning and I've gone over why that is the case in the past two episodes, at length, but remember, in short, Jupiter is the God of spring of youth. It's associated with new life. CS Lewis had Jupiter associated with the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. That was the planet that he based that book on the medieval alchemical astrological symbolism of Jupiter was something that he was fascinated by, and saw connections to the resurrection of Christ, and so he wove that the symbolism of Jupiter into the Narnia Chronicles, especially the Lion the Witch in the Wardrobe. Saturn, on the other hand, in the Narnia Chronicles was the last battle, the Apocalypse and the end of things, the impermanence of everything, finally, in winter, and death and darkness. And that's not necessarily a good or a bad thing. It's just an archetypal reality. But when you put these two together, it's so interesting because you have the symbol of impermanence, and winter with the sign of abundance, youth and spring. And when those two things come together, it's like this very powerful moment of completion and finality and resolution and maturity and hard lessons learned. And then this kind of slow, but very powerful and inspired new beginning that's starting a new era of some kind. Now, this is not necessarily good or bad. It depends on your chart. It depends on each person's karma, it depends on you know which country or nation or people we're talking about, and how that's going to play out. And it also depends on the dignities of the planets. There's a lot more on the side of Saturn in this dynamic because Jupiter is a guest in Saturn's sign. Saturn is the triplicity ruler of the air signs by day, Saturn prefers its masculine domiciled and Aquarius. It's a fixed sign. Saturn in the air signs also is the exalted in Libra. So there's a lot of power that Saturn has in air signs, and it's an interesting conversation as to why Saturn has that kind of power in air signs which we went over in yesterday's talk. But suffice it to say, this is the new beginning that we're all looking at here.
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And it really couldn't be more welcome in a sense, after the feeling of peril and contraction and crisis and perseverance through constricting and in very difficult ominous times, or an ominous season with Saturn, Jupiter in its fall, Pluto all together in Capricorn. So that energy is now starting to fade and you're really going to feel the shift from this moment of the winter solstice going forward, is not going to happen all at once. But you're going to see that there's this turn. Well, as soon as this turn happens, there's also a series of aspects that are going to take place between Jupiter and Uranus, and Saturn and Uranus. It's like, out of the frying pan into the fire, it's a totally different dynamic. We're not just totally free and clear. No, as soon as they change signs, they're now entering into another kind of titanic struggle with a different archetype of principle. Granted, it's not Pluto, so it doesn't have that really deep intense, potentially sort of paranoid and even the feelings of it being in the underworld. Hades/Pluto has that intense underworld kind of vibe to it. And Uranus is different. So it's a different energy, but it's still a pretty titanic meeting of these planets. So let me show you how this is going to play out.
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So first of all, Jupiter is the faster moving planet. So after the conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn, who are now by whole sign beholding Uranus, they're seeing Uranus by whole sign through a square now. And one simple way that you can think about it is that when planets see each other through a square, what it means is that they're seeing each other by means of a shape that is in the structure of the zodiac in this case, namely the square. So I'm just drawing out what the square looks like. So that when we say they're in a square, what it means is that they're seeing the planets are seeing each other by virtue of a shape. Isn't that interesting. So that's the shape that is informing their experience of one another. And in this case, the square. If we go back to the ancient Thema Mundi, and you draw the square to the left of Cancer, the sign of the moon, and you draw the square to the right of Leo, the sign of the Sun, you get to Scorpio and Aries, the signs of Mars, and hence, the square was associated with the planet Mars. So when they're seeing each other by virtue of a square, you're getting this kind of energy of Mars. Now, the square and the number four is also associated, as many people know, study a little bit of numerology with manifestation, that things taking form or things taking shape. You think about what happens in some kind of random subdivision in any place in America, when there's empty lots and someone purchases it, it goes from this kind of uneven territory to there's a bulldozer and they have cleared it out. And it's gonna be like a rectangle, or a square, or something that has that kind of hard shape that says something's going to be built here, it's going to stand here, right? It takes its shape in the square, usually, some kind of square/rectangle looking thing comes in, well, the squares like that. And so this is a powerful transit that has the potential through a certain kind of struggle contest of will, differing or conflicting ideals to manifest something. And I think that the something tangible will take shape as a result of the clashing between these energies, but there is clashing and things to be figured out between the planets involved. So let's look at what comes first.
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Jupiter is going to hit the square to Uranus first. So it's very quick, by the middle of January, January 17 or there abouts. Jupiter hits the square to Uranus. Okay, it's gonna take Saturn a little bit longer because it's a slower moving planet. And then Jupiter is going to fly past Uranus. And as soon as it does, then you have Saturn getting involved. And let's see. So we have the two of them getting into it by February 17. So you got about the middle of January in the middle of February where two months back to back you're getting this big dialogue between Jupiter and Uranus and then Saturn and Uranus. Those are two action packed months to start off the new year.
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And then let's watch how the year evolves. So both Jupiter and Saturn of course are faster than Uranus. Now Jupiter is getting all the way up to the end of Aquarius and is saying okay, I just came here for a bit, and then it pops into Pisces, and then it'll retrograde and come back into Aquarius, it really flies through Aquarius and then it's in Pisces, retrogrades back to stay in Aquarius for a while. Alright, so Saturn is going to retrograde and that retrograde starts happening about the end of May, and then Saturn is going to retrograde and it's going to take it back into the square with Uranus. And that happens. This happens about the middle of June.
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So then you're going to have Uranus retrograde. Uranus starts retrograding backwards later and this is over the course of the summer into the fall. And the year ends basically with the two of them coming back together to meet again and this is going to happen right around the holidays next year. At Winter Solstice next year into Christmas, you've got Saturn squaring Uranus one last time. Jupiter doesn't make it into the back into the exact square. So we have one kind of big Jupiter Uranus moment here in January and then one in February from Saturn, and then you get the Saturn Uranus dynamic again by the end of the year. And the middle of June I think is the other one. That's an action packed 2021 and remember that that whole year, even though they're not by degree connected, they're beholding one another for a good portion of the year.
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So what can you expect from these aspects in particular? First of all, Jupiter Uranus has a totally unique, dynamic and so does Saturn and Uranus. When you put them all together? It they're not coming together all three of them at the same time. So that's important because they have very different significations. So let me just give you this is very quick and just kind of fast and I'm going to give you some resources if you want to read more about the historical cycles of Jupiter and Uranus in particular and Saturn and Uranus a bit too. Of course when it hits Uranus is very exciting. You're thinking about a planet that's often what is the main key word that people often think about with Jupiter is expansion. And then you have Uranus who is this God of inventiveness and the impulse or urge to be free or to emancipate oneself from you know, the status quo or wherever there has been habituation tradition, but maybe something feels stagnant or outdated. Uranus is the one who wants to rebel, defy convention and come up with something original, but often in times that are kind of violent, or maybe even rebellious and things can get a little bloody with Uranus, it's not always like a peaceful planet and a peaceful revolution. In other words, it can be very violent, and it can also be about breaking barriers or limitations in ways that are very violent. For example, you have a long history of Uranus and Uranus being involved when it gets into this with Saturn too, with like earthquakes, or with sudden disasters or violent accidents or so Uranus can be very erratic and sort of sudden and disruptive in ways that are not always pleasant. So we have to be careful of that. But Jupiter Uranus, for example, was present through an opposition when the Me Too movement really took off in October, I think it was of 2017. So here's a moment of greater call. It's an iconic cultural moment. And that's exactly the title that that Richard Tarnas uses in his famous book, Cosmos and Psyche.
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This is one of my favourite books, Cosmos and Psyche by Richard Tarnas. As you know, an archetypal astrology masterpiece. And there is a chapter on the Jupiter Uranus cycle called Iconic Moments and Cultural Milestones. He talks about cinema and culture and you know, literature and these these ways in which film and technology and art experience this great Renaissance. And he has tonnes of examples that are really really cool. So he mentions a whole bunch of debut albums by bands and solo artists during 1968 and 69. When Jupiter and Uranus were configured such as Joni Mitchell, Crosby, Stills Nash, Neil Young, James Taylor, Leonard Cohen, Santana, the Allman Brothers Led Zeppelin, Jeff Beck, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Creedence Clearwater, Blood, Sweat and Tears, Jethro Tull, Blind Faith, King Crimson, Genesis. How about Woodstock? So, now that had Pluto in the mix of it, too. So there's this kind of this upsurge of intense underworld, combust spirit behind it, but that is also Jupiter Uranus, that was a Jupiter Uranus moment. And he talks about the opposition, for example, in 75 and 76. that coincides with the emergence of punk rock and new wave Patti Smith, the Sex Pistols, the Clash, the Ramones, the Talking Heads, the Cars, the founding of U2. If you go to 1954 to 55, you have films like East of Eden, Rebel Without a Cause, and giant with James Dean movies. Marlon Brando's, On the Waterfront, you have the beat movement, Allen Ginsberg writing Howl, Kerouac's On the Road, you know, so there's these moments where the need for cultural expressions of cultural innovation, artistic innovation, political moments, fast because it's a fast transit but they're also fast explosive moments of kind of iconic cultural moments. And that can be political as well like the Me Too movement in 2017. Now if you want to read more about Jupiter, Uranus, I couldn't more highly recommend Cosmos and Psyche because I can't do justice very quickly to all of the amazing research that he did to show the connection. But you know, so many things that are that were iconic moments such as, record setting moments in baseball from Babe Ruth to Joe DiMaggio to a really important breakthrough pieces of literature from Carl Jung and Freud. I mean, it is really exciting and the Renaissance, going all the way back to the Renaissance. So Jupiter Uranus is very exciting like that, at the top of my list for things I'm excited about in 2021 is this idea of inspiration, breakthroughs, boundary breaking innovations in art, music, culture, even the potential to meet teachers or to have teachers impact your life in ways that are just completely revolutionary, the Jupiter as sort of a guru or teacher, and Uranus as the kind of spark of awakening. So there's this great feeling of awakening that surges behind Jupiter and Uranus.
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Now, on the flip side, Saturn and Uranus which tarnis doesn't spend a lot of time talking about in his book but he there's moments where he does mention and it's really good to pick up on Saturn-Uranus has this feeling of the convention, the status quo, the structure, the past, oftentimes meeting with the impulse for revolution or freedom in ways that are very violent and destructive. And so it's such a head screw that the two of them are going to be happening at once. You're going to see this kind of expansion and contraction, all with the underlying spirit of revolution happening really strongly, for example, contractive forces that are acting with just as much defiance, bravado, strength, resistance, as those that are say more expansive, or more so that the energy can become very uranian just as much as the expansive can in 2021. That's so weird. So if you compare Saturn-Uranus, to, you know, to Jupiter-Uranus, you get a different feeling, for example, in January of 2010. It's right as Saturn is turning retrograde and moving back into its exact opposition with Uranus. You had the earthquake in Haiti, that I think killed like over 300,000 people. I'll never forget that because I was in an ayahuasca ceremony the day after it happened. And that night, well, you know, it's clear that so many people had died and or were lost and so forth. I had this kind of apocalyptic, like visionary experience in the ayahuasca ceremony where I saw all of these souls moving to beyond, like moving across the veil, so to speak or moving to the other world, and it was clear that they were, like, Haitian souls, so to speak, and it was so beautiful. It was like seeing it was like seeing a mandala or a tapestry of Haitian culture. And magic and Voodoo. And it was just so colourful and beautiful, and these souls were being liberated. And I don't know if that was real or not, I'm not saying that I was seeing something that actually happened. I had felt really uncertain about whether I wanted to go into a ceremony that night or not, just because it was such a heavy thing in the news, and I was like, oh, man, I don't want to do a ceremony, you know, but it ended up being this very healing experience. Anyway, sorry, that's a random story that I have.
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One of the things that stuck with me though was realizing the prison of the material world and this moment of great release, and how the way that we create culture, especially spiritually, it takes the material, the matter that can otherwise be like a prison and it spiritualize it so it was like this understanding of spiritual culture as something that alchemizes and liberates us from the bondage of just base matter. And then seeing souls being sort of released from the prison of matter. And it was a beautiful thing. It wasn't at all a scary thing and in realising that this is a multi dimensional universe, and it was something that I had had experiences of previously with ayahuasca, but for whatever reason, this vision of this kind of Haitian exodus of Souls was like, so beautiful. And it gave me a lot of comfort at that at that time. I'm sure that maybe that it I'm sure it wasn't feeling that way at all, you know, in in in Haiti, right. That was such a Saturn Uranus moment, and Saturn was just about to turn retrograde to go back into the opposition. And those are really important moments in these outer planetary cycles.
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A few months later, when it was exact, you had the Deepwater Horizon explosion. It was the oil the big the big. They made a movie about it. I feel like Mark Wahlberg was in it or something. The oil rig that blew up and so you get this idea of something of Saturn Uranus is a bit more about structures sort of detonating or being purposefully defied or dismantled. And there's much more of a clash between structure and form and breaking or dismantling structure form or tradition. And it's not nearly as uplifting and inspiring. I'm pretty sure Tarnas associates the Sistine Chapel or Michelangelo with Jupiter Uranus at one point. Saturn Uranus doesn't have that sense of like, the angelic heights of human creativity and inspiring moments of cultural revolution that have a general sense of liberation behind them. I believe the Statue of Liberty was made under a Jupiter Uranus conjunction. It has much more of the feeling of dismantling structures. Remember, Uranus is like Prometheus, not afraid to steal the fire from the gods. In 1999 we had Napster being found founded under a Uranus and Saturn dynamic and arguably that that completely changed the landscape of how music is bought sold, downloaded legally illegally, we see how it defies the conventions and sometimes in a way that is controversial or might even involve theft or cybercrime or hacking and hackers and all sorts of stuff like that. You also had in 1999 had the Columbine shootings and that was so Saturn Uranus in the sense that you had these broken youth and the way that they spoke out against something and I back in the day I remember when it was new because it's happened so many times since then, but I remember there was this feeling of an innocence or a place that feels stable in a Saturnine kind of way, being broken open. I remember not feeling safe going to school which is weird because I was living here in the Twin Cities, I was in a suburb, Burnsville. I was going to community college, but I had to go into school to see my guidance counsellor occasionally. I remember soon after that I had to go and see him and I was like, I don't want to go to school because it isn't safe. I never felt that way before, ever. I mean, now everyone's sort of, in some ways numb. We're desensitised to this, but this was a Saturn Uranus moment. They weren't in tight aspect when that happens. But during the summertime, I think it was john F. Kennedy Jr. died in a plane crash, off the coast of Martha's Vineyard. So that was like another really iconic moment where there's this kind of devastating event. There were other massive earthquakes that also happened under previous Saturn Uranus dynamics. It would not surprise me at all to see some Saturn, Saturn and Uranus dynamics in the year ahead, leading to kind of really destructive forces of nature, or explosions or structures being dismantled and really more like violent or erratic ways. And that's kind of the unfortunate part about Saturn and Uranus. So those are just some examples that you see, you can kind of get a feel for it. But the most general thing that you could say is that whether it's the conventionality of Saturn, or it's the the love of what is familiar and, and, and sturdy, and I resist what is outside, right, that's a Saturn dynamic, not so much because Saturn represents structure as much as Saturn tends to heighten the polarity are the opposition between the status quo and what is outside of it. Build a wall, that's a Saturn phrase, not because Saturn is walls. But because Saturn fears the new and holds to clings to the old. Or, in some cases, Saturn in Aquarius especially, can denounce the old and obsess over the new but with equal almost with equal rigidity, almost like it's put up a wall between the future and the past. And I'm on the side of the future now. And this is why Saturn's also had some associations with Janus, that sort of dual looking Roman god of thresholds, looking simultaneously at the past and the future. So we're going to see this kind of dynamic in 2021, between the desire to dismantle structures and to create new structures, sometimes very suddenly, sometimes too impatiently or radically or even violently. And other times, we're also going to see Saturn-Uranus can also be very constructive in the sense that we adapt and evolve and change, especially in the sign of Aquarius, you get this sense of the architect of a new world, and that can be a very good thing. The other thing that's nice about having Jupiter there all year, is that we're Saturn and Uranus tend to have a little bit more of a cataclysmic feeling behind them in terms of dismantling things and insisting upon new forms and in ways that are more reckless or aggressive. Jupiter is like the saving grace. One thing that Tarnas says about Jupiter-Uranus and he gives tonnes of examples of this in lectures that he's given over the years, is that saving grace that comes in. So your Jupiter Uranus is like, you know, for some reason, the worst case scenario doesn't happen. It's the I slip and fall into the rushing traffic, and somehow the car stops when screeches on its brakes and halts to within an inch of hitting me. Jupiter has this way of like, throwing the curveball of grace and good luck and tending to make things turn out okay, despite what could have been really bad or disastrous. So that's kind of a silver lining in the mix of the year that you can experience when Saturn and Uranus get together Saturn and Uranus is like the close call that ends up being okay. And it can also be about breaking records and almost like defying limitations in ways that are really inspiring when you see Kobe Bryant or something go off for 80 points in a game that can be a Jupiter Uranus kind of dynamic.
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So what a dynamic year it will be considering that these planets are all engaging and right away in January and then in February, Jupiter Uranus in January Saturn Uranus in February, Saturn Uranus again in June and then Saturn Uranus again at the end of the year in December with Jupiter hanging around pretty much that whole time not by degree but by witnessing by whole sign which means that Jupiter's influence will still be there it just won't be as intense. So I hope that that is interesting to you. Now, the next thing that I would recommend is checking out the position of Saturn. And excuse me, Jupiter and Saturn in Aquarius by whole sign in your chart what houses it falling in. If you go back into my videos, the video that is the overview for the month of December. That video I take you through the Jupiter Saturn conjunction in all 12 signs and that's going to be your resource for looking at this by whole sign yourself I'm not going to repeat it in this video since I did it already. So go back and check that one out. Now, the other thing is to look at those critical degrees. Let's pull the chart back up and take a look at the critical degrees.
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First of all, the critical degrees that you want to watch for in terms of planets in your chart being affected, I use what ancient astrologers use, which is about a three degree range called an engagement range. So the conjunction on December 21 is going to happen at zero degrees of Aquarius, what does that mean? Well, here is the most profound places that will touch. First of all, if you have anything at zero Aquarius in your chart, including the MC IC, ascendant or descendant, it's going to be a lot more potent for you personally, if you have planets at the zero degree markers of the fixed signs, Leo, Scorpio or Taurus, those are also going to be very impactful. Now less impactful but still potent, and probably very helpful in sort of positive will be the sextile to zero Aries if you have anything at zero Aries that will be impacted. Also very constructive the superior trying to zero Gemini. And that will also be a very constructive place for you, less powerful but still applicable as the inferior trine to zero Libra, the inferior sextile to zero Sagittarius. So that's kind of the order that I would rank them in the seven rays coming from Jupiter Saturn conjunction. Now that let's take a look at the Jupiter Uranus dynamic.
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So the Jupiter Uranus dynamic we said is going to play out in about the middle of February that plays out at what do you know about six degrees of Taurus. So if you have a planet at six degrees of Taurus six degrees of Aquarius, six degrees of Scorpio, or six degrees of Leo, that square between Jupiter and Uranus will be lighting up your chart, it'll be a very powerful moment for you. And again, you could kind of trace this out and say, Okay, look, you know, Jupiter's going to be hitting six degrees of Aries six degrees of Gemini and you can trace out the trine to Libra and the sextile to Sagittarius as well. But I would stick with for this one for Jupiter square Uranus, I would stick to six degrees of the fixed signs as the most powerful if you have those on the angles of your chart in any way. Now, let's go forward. And let's take Saturn into the equation. So if you are looking at Saturn, you're moving this forward a little bit. And you're going to go into about middle of February, February 17 at the seventh degree. So now you're looking at the seventh degree of the fixed signs. And if you have anything within three degrees of the signs that I've been mentioning, and the degrees that I've been mentioning in these signs, it's fair game, most intense if they're at the exact degree, but now we're at seven degrees of the fixed signs. Now if we go forward to the middle of June, the middle of June, we're going to see it at about 13 degrees of the fixed signs. So you're looking at 13 Leo 13 Taurus, 13 Scorpio 13 Aquarius, so watch for those. Now let's bring it around to the very end of the year, it's going to be 11. And notice how close that range is. So you're getting a repeat if you're in that, that or the second decan basically the early part of the second decan the 10 to 20 degree range, but in that second deck and you got 13 and then now down to about 11 degrees. So it's 11 and that would be for the fixed signs again, so you've got Aquarius and Taurus and then Scorpio and Leo and I would think of those as the the most you know, important. Now if you've planets at any of the fixed signs in the year ahead for Jupiter, you want to track those out too because Jupiter hitting opposition's or squares to planets in your natal chart. In fixed signs, that'll probably be pretty beneficial overall, it depends on the context of your chart, but that'll probably be very beneficial.
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Alright, so now finally, what I want to leave you with is a Saturn return. If it's your Saturn return, first Saturn return versus second Saturn return, I'm gonna just say something very briefly about each of these. Your first Saturn return is really about the transition between youth and adulthood. So the plot really thickens at the Saturn return. And we make a lot of choices that are initiating us into adulthood, choices that are in some ways setting the stage or setting a foundation, you might say for the next 30 years of our lives. It's not about getting it right. It's just in some ways it's about growing and and growing isn't the same as getting it right, growing is about learning from everything that you experience. And even if you make some bad choices, or have some difficulties during a Saturn return, it's really did I become a wiser person? Did I learn how to narrow or limit my range of choices or my investment of energy? Because I'm growing up and I realise I can't do everything? Did I have to make some important sacrifices did I offer some of my heart and my blood, sweat and tears to things that I cared about, even if it didn't work? Those kinds of lessons, if we go through them willingly, they have a way of very positively shaping the next phase of our life. I think that's a simple way of explaining a Saturn return. Second Saturn return often has to do with realising I'm coming into the final act of my life. It's the third act. What do I have left to do? And I'm not talking about a bucket list. It could be a late life mountain that is left to climb. I think I heard Stephen Forrest say that one time. There's the sense of what's left on my list, and what have I not been prioritising, now I don't have a lot of time left. So I need to now focus on this or prioritise this. So second Saturn returns. For example, you're going to see people like my mom and her second Saturn return for example, she always wanted to be a nurse practitioner, so she went back to school and finished her degree and became a psychiatric nurse practitioner during her second Saturn return. There's a lot of examples like that where people there's there's a mountain left to climb and or there's something that has to say goodbye. My folks got divorced during their second Saturn returns. So there's sometimes there's also setting aside things that somehow define that middle portion of life, the second act and setting them aside or letting them go where their expiration date has been reached. And there's some pain in letting go in that. Both of my grandparents died during my parents' Saturn returns. So there's also this sometimes like a changing of the guard and like now I'm and also moving from adult into elder or golden years phase, you could say, and, you know, Hey 60's the new 40 right. So those are some of the general things that can define first or second Saturn returns.
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I want to give you an example of an Aquarian Saturn return that I think is really iconic and defines a lot of it gives you a lot of insight as to what an Aquarian Saturn return might look like. When Michelle Obama was born, she was born with Saturn in the sign of Aquarius. When she was coming into her first Saturn return, her dad, first of all died of complications related to multiple sclerosis, I believe. That was in 1991. She had a good friend that died from cancer, and quote, "these losses made her think of her contributions towards society, and how well she was influencing the world from her law firm." In her first job after law school, she considered this a turning point. So you have someone wondering, am I making a difference? Am I is, is this really where I want to be? Is this contributing somehow? So that question of socio social ideology, political ideology, progress, what kind of future do I want to create? Those are very important questions for aquarians right now, Aquarius Sun, Saturn in Aquarius, Aquarius Moon, those kinds of issues will be very personal for you.
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Now, during this time, she also met Barack and they were among the few African Americans at their law firms. She was actually assigned to mentor him at first, according to Wikipedia, and their first date was to Spike Lee's Do the Right Thing, which by the way, I rewatched Boys in the Hood this past summer, and somehow on my list, it popped up for suggest other movies you might like do the right thing and I was like I've never seen Do the Right Thing. And I watched it and I was like, wow, that is an incredible movie. If you've never seen it before. I just loved it. Now, they went and saw Do the Right Thing on their first date and then they married during her Saturn return in 1992. And she described it as an opposites attract kind of dynamic. He was more adventurous, her more enjoying of stability. Now remember he's an Aquarius rising with Jupiter in Aquarius. This is going to be a big year for the Obama's in some ways, you know, Michelle Obama's hitting her Saturn return, Barack had his in Capricorn so he just had his Saturn return which that's a whole other interesting topic to talk about. But basically let's see. He was more adventurous she more enjoying of stability he's an Aquarius rising with Jupiter in Aquarius. Isn't that interesting that during her Saturn return in Aquarius, she ends up marrying an Aquarius rising after a few people passed away. And she's also questioning what she wants to do well, right after that, she goes to work as the executive director for the Chicago Office of Public Allies in 1993. Right as her Saturn return is finishing a nonprofit encouraging young people to work on social issues in nonprofit groups and government agencies. She set fundraising records and said she had never been happier in her life. I love that I love her story of her Saturn return, not that she's sitting around being like, hey, let me tell you about my Saturn return. But I will. So what I love about it is how thoroughly Aquarian it is. There's this, what am I doing with my life? In my is my life being led by any greater sense of vision or purpose? Or, and for her, you know that in the Aquarius, that's going to be the social ideology? What is my purpose for humanity? Or where is my sense of direction and purpose in relation to a larger future? Am I making an impact on the world? Am I making any positive changes? It could be some other way in which philosophical, ethical, political, ideological concerns about your future are going to be a huge part of how you deal with or handle the changes ahead. So it's a coming of age moment, if you're in your first Saturn return, that involves ideology, responsibility, how do I want to be the same? Or how do I want to be different from the status quo? Here's Michelle Obama at a law firm being like, I guess I could be successful here. But is it making an impact? What compromises can I or can I not make with regard to my vision for the future? And so it varies quite a bit, depending on your birth chart, right? So this is not like a cookie cutter story. Everyone's just going to go and experience you know, something like what Michelle Obama experienced, but it's such a good representation of a Saturn return in Aquarius, so I thought I would share that one with you guys.
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If you're in your second Saturn return, I would imagine that similar things would be coming up in terms of a almost like a re like a reset around your sense of purpose, commitment values for your for your future and saying, How do I want to live the last, last, say 30 years of my life, I'm living to 90. What is the vision of my future and do I need to set myself apart in some way from the past or from what I've been doing. That's a big Aquarion consideration. Not being afraid to do something original or different, or to stand apart in some way could be just as important at the end of the 50s as it is at the end of your 20s it's just a different mood, granted that you've lived a lot more life. So that's what I've got for you guys. I hope that you guys enjoyed this series, this three part series on the great conjunction, it's been really exciting, I can't wait to track it out. We'll be talking about it a lot more as the year goes on. We're going to track out in January and February in June and December, these big meetings between Jupiter and Uranus and Saturn and Uranus. The great conjunction itself comes pretty close to the midheaven in my chart, which makes me feel like I'm excited. I feel like maybe there'll be some inspiring new ideas for this channel. For you know, for my work as an astrology teacher and reader and stuff like that I'm just excited. I'm just kind of like, no expectations and keep an open heart, open mind to receive whatever this is. And I'm excited to hear what you guys are thinking and how you guys are all inspired. I always read you guys, right? It's always nice to you know to read your comments. So please feel free to tell me how you're anticipating this in your own chart or where it falls in your own chart, or any of those aspects we mentioned going to hit planets in your chart.
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