The Great Conjunction: Jupiter and Saturn in Aquarius (Part Two)

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Hi everyone this is Acyuta-bhava from Nightlight Astrology and today we're going to take another look at Jupiter and Saturn's upcoming conjunction in the sign of Aquarius. So today, we're going to focus more exclusively on the sign of Aquarius and how Saturn acts and behaves in this sign a little bit of a compare and contrast with Capricorn along the way. And then we're going to conclude by talking about what it what it means when Jupiter and Saturn get together in Aquarius. We're also going to do a third episode in which we break down how to interpret Jupiter and Saturn in your birth chart. And kind of round out this three part series with some practical takeaways. But because it's such a big planetary conjunction, there's a lot of details to unpack along the way to really make sure that we understand the season that we're entering into. It's not just a small passing transit. This is an era defining transit for the next 20 years, until Jupiter and Saturn get together again, it is in some ways going to tone things happening both in the collective and in our birth charts. Especially if you were born during say 1980-81. This is a huge transit because it's coming back to make aspect in your natal chart with that transit that you were born under.

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All right now to business. We're going to take a look at the real time clock first and give you a picture of Saturn's upcoming change in Jupiter's upcoming change. We went over this yesterday but good to repeat it. So you'll see here we are in December. And we're going to see Saturn changing signs imminently, as in the 17th. And then by the 19th Jupiter comes in, and then you're going to see them get together on the 21st so that's our magical moment. Now Saturn already gave us a little taste in the sign of Aquarius. Let's go back and just show you what that was like.

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This was coming through last spring and we saw around the end of March, Saturn entered into Aquarius and then we saw Saturn get into first couple of degrees of Aquarius before turning retrograde and then finally moving out of Aquarius by what early July. So we had a little taste of it right and if you go back, you're going to notice that Saturn was also in Aquarius in 1991, the spring of 91, spent some time retrograding backward, came close to dipping back into Capricorn. So goes 91 all the way to get to the end of it here. So in about 93, you're going to see here you can see Capricorn, you can see Saturn, excuse me entering Pisces in May of 1993, of course, you're going to get a retrograde goes back into Aquarius. And then finally, it's going to leave Aquarius for good. Sorry, I'm going really fast here by January of 1994. So yeah, that kind of 91 to 94 range with a little back and forth out of Pisces in the middle. Now, if you also you can track things back for Jupiter by 12 years, if you want to do this in your own chart, it can be helpful just to look at, you know what was going on in your life during those times, and so forth. So Jupiter goes into Aquarius in about January of 2009. And then it's going to spend a year there into the beginning of 2010. So that era is also very important. And you can track it back every 12 years, you can kind of go backward and see the recurrence of Jupiter in the sign of Aquarius. So those are handy exercises to do just in terms of tracking where the planets were in your birth chart, where is the whole sign House of Aquarius in your birth chart, you look at that, and then you go back 12 years, and then you go back 12 years, you can go back to the early 90s to see where Saturn was at what was happening in your life. For example, I'll show you what it looks like in my own natal chart and give you some examples just so that it can kind of warm it up for you, if you want to practice this, you know, on your own. So it makes it real clean to look at here. So here's 2009 into 2010. So it was during this time as Jupiter was in the 10th hole sign house last time around. Well, it was during that time that my first book was accepted for publication through a big press in New York City. And then by the end of that I had gotten received my first paycheck as an author and had a book coming out, would end up going on a national book tour and things like that. So, you know, Jupiter in the 10th house can often you know grant success in in professional endeavours and things like that, or you take some next step of growth in your professional life.

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Now, if I go back, just show you again, this is kind of interesting. So I'm going to go back to what was happening in my life. So you're here you're looking at 1997 and January to like 1998. Now, what's interesting about that period of time in my life is that I decided to leave high school early and go to college in Minnesota, there's a programme called post secondary enrollment option. And basically, you can go to a community college or even some of the universities in Minnesota during your junior and senior year, part time or full time in some cases. I ended up going full time. And one of the reasons I did it was because it would allow me to start studying almost exclusively studying philosophy, which I was absolutely in love with. And so as Jupiter entered my 10th house, I got the idea to go to post secondary enrollment and ended up by the end of that Jupiter transit studying philosophy and theology to a certain extent. And that would, of course, have a huge impact on the future trajectory of my my career in a weird way. So that's when I first started getting into things like Neo-platonism and, you know, the ancient mystical Greek thinkers that in some ways are still at the foundation of what I do with my life as an astrologer got interested in in Eastern philosophy at that time, so I was really young, like I was in high school, but you can see it back then as well.

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Now, now just check this out. Let's take, let's go back to Saturn in Aquarius. This is when I was really young, right? I was I was born in 81. So Aquarius gets gets in, in the early 90s. I'm about, you know, 10 years old. But here's what happened at that time. At during that particular time of my life, my father's career was growing, and it was changing and shaping the direction of my entire family's life as a result. So I think that that's really interesting that, you know, it wasn't my career, but it was my father's career, and that, that the changes in his career would shape our, my, my trajectory and my family's trajectory so much. So this was really big moments for my dad's career when Saturn was in my 10th. And I was just 10 years old. I thought that was fascinating. Anyway, so. And there's a lot more I could say about that. This is a simple exercise that you can do with your birth chart, just put your rising sign on the ascendant, like, Okay, I'm a Gemini rising, track those transits back to the early 90s with Saturn or, you know, those those increments with Jupiter and see what was going on. That'll give you some clues as to the kinds of themes and you know, kind of the mood of the transits that are coming up. So that's a good thing that you can do. Alright, so enough of that.

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Now, what I want to talk about today are some of the features of Aquarius and what to expect in particular from Aquarius. So what makes Saturn as the ruler of Aquarius, sometimes people think it's Uranus. And I'm just going to sort of gently push back and say, until a student studies, the full range of the dignity schemes that ancient astrologers used, it's really not a good idea to use outer planets as sign rulers. The reason for this is that planets were not just sign rulers, they were sign rulers, they had detriments. They were exaltation rulers, they had depressions, they were triplicity rulers, by day or by night, there were participating triplicity rulers, there were term and bound rulers and slightly different schemes for the term and bounds. There were decan rulers and different schemes for the decan rulers. You can't just plug a planet into that system because it's like a tapestry. And it's sort of like saying, you know, the tapestry has a weave and a whole pattern to it. And you can't just insert something into it in one part, it has to somehow be pulled through the whole thing. Modern astrology isn't even close to being able to do that yet in terms of the newly discovered planets, what to speak of, you know, asteroids and so many other things. So, I'm not saying don't use the outer planets, I'm just saying, I don't think that once you study traditional astrology, I think most people realise they don't make the most sense as sign rulers because most people don't even really understand what sign rulers are, what they do or how they were used. And they just think there's some kind of symbolic association and you can make some really interesting symbolic associations between Uranus and Aquarius. I'm not saying you can't or between Pluto and Scorpio or Neptune in Pisces, and I'm not trying to police anyone but but it's very important that people understand that you can't just jam a planet into assign as a ruler and not even understand what ruler ships are how they work, which unfortunately, like I discovered this myself, I had no idea how they worked when I started studying classical astrology and I was like, oh, wow, this is very, very different. And so that's, that's something I'm going to start by saying we're talking about Aquarius as the rulership, the traditional classical rulership of Saturn.

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It is Saturn's diurnal or masculine, yang, air sign. Every planet in ancient astrology had two signs a masculine and a feminine, the yin and a yang, except for the Sun and the Moon, who were sort of the quintessential yin and yang and had their own territories and didn't crossover though they were said to potentially share a kind of mutual secret mutual reception between Cancer and, and Leo, which is another topic altogether. So we're treating Saturn is the ruler of Aquarius in this talk. Now, first thing to know is that Saturn slightly prefers Aquarius to Capricorn in ancient astrology The reason for this is some of we have some understanding of why this was, but maybe there's more that we don't know. But the first thing to say is that Saturn slightly prefers his masculine domicile or her masculine domicile. So Saturn is talked about as both masculine and feminine in ancient astrology interestingly enough, but Saturn slightly prefers the yang air sign of Aquarius, because Saturn rejoices in the diurnal signs or the masculine signs and is part of the daytime sect of planets. It means you almost get a better Saturn or you get more of the exalted Saturn qualities when Saturn is in daytime signs in a daytime chart on the same side as the Sun, oftentimes more, you know oriental in its disposition, meaning rising in the east, before the Sun or easterly in a general sense. So those are those are conditions the rejoicing conditions that that will make Saturn really happy. So Saturn slightly prefers this masculine domicile, this is his own sign, part of the daytime sector planets a masculine sign all things that makes Saturn happy.

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Now, Ptolemy issued this really interesting statement that the rationale that he gave, which we don't know if it was the original rationale or not, because Ptolemy comes a little later in the tradition, right in the in the early part of the Roman Empire, or the early part of the Common Era and the Roman Empire. Ptolemy says that it's because Saturn as a planet is excessively cold and dry, and the daytime qualities of the sign or the daytime qualities associated with Saturn by sect, are there to sort of compensate for and sort of warm Saturn, which gives you something a little bit better than being excessively cold and dry. Another another thing that's really important is that Saturn is the triplicity ruler of the air signs by day as well. Whereas Capricorn's triplicity rulers, Saturn's other sign, are Venus and the Moon. And you get a more it's a much more feminine expression. It's it's cooler, it's darker, it has more nocturnal qualities associated with it. And those qualities were said to sort of exacerbate Saturn's more cold and dry nature that makes it kind of, it's already excessively cold, and you put it in cold signs and so forth, and it doesn't do as well.

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There is no cooperative ruler of Aquarius, that Saturn has to, in a sense, work together with whereas in Capricorn, you have both Saturn as the domicile ruler and Mars as the exaltation ruler. Anytime that you see signs that have cooperative rulers, it's also a sign in ancient philosophy, the duality of rulers implies something that's more feminine, whereas the singularity of rulers implies something that is more masculine, so you get one ruler and a sign. And there's a there's some interesting exceptions in the Zodiac where you have masculine signs that have two rulers like Libra, for example, or Aries. But those are very specific. And there are specific exceptions that play along in a deeper rationale, which I've given talks about at conferences in the past and things like that. There was a really interesting, esoteric reason why a few masculine signs showed the duality of rulerships which would typically be understood as more feminine. Exaltations themselves as a dignity category are really more feminine or lunar, you could say, in a yin/yang sense. So at any rate, Aquarius has no joint ruler. The sole rulership of Aquarius is Saturn. When there is a single ruler, the ideal of that sign, karmically speaking, or the ideal that the sign is pointing to in the life of the native has less to compromise, there's less that it's going to have to compromise by virtue of the fact that there is no other ruler that has may have a separate agenda. So Aquarius has this singular focus behind it and Saturn does better with that.

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You're also going to see that Aquarius as a fixed sign solid or unmoving. It was also you know, literally called solid solid signs we call them fixed now right but solid or unchanging on moving. Now, Capricorn, Saturn's other sign is by nature tropical the word tropos of course means to turn. You get to Capricorn, you're at a pivotal turning point, more prone to excitability and change, suddenness, and, in a sense sort of rashness, whereas, Aquarius, you're going to get more of these enduring qualities, these stable qualities, and Saturn prefers that. Now, Saturn as a planet is already associated with impermanence, decay, old age, death, the relation between time and timelessness, the boundary between the two. And so it's bolstered a little bit by being in a fixed sign in this regard that we're aware. Capricorn tends to exacerbate the extreme tension between, you know, death and life or time and timelessness. And there's there's more of a much more dynamic tension between those opposites in a sense. Now you could argue and I will argue that Aquarius has its own tensions that are just as difficult and challenging in some ways. But we'll just say for now that you're going to see a more stable version of Saturn in a sense, which has some good and some bad to it, but it has less of that kind of dynamic flashpoint tension of that Capricorn has. And remember, the feminine signs in general were thought of as more changeable, more fluxional, they, they represent change, and movement and instability in some sense, both good and bad. And and so while the yang is typically more sort of static or, or stable, there's good and bad to that too, which we're going to explore in a minute.

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So that's just a little technical background as to why Saturn in Aquarius might be a little bit happier was considered by ancient astrologers to have slight preference for its its airy masculine domicile. As someone with a Capricorn Moon, of course, I'm like, Well, I take my Capricorn Moon all day compared to an Aquarius Moon, you know, because I'm biassed, but and those of you out there who love Capricorn, this is not to hate on Capricorn at all. It's just trying to explain some of the philosophical justifications for that, that ancient doctrine. Alright, let's talk about the archetypal seasonal quality of the sign of Aquarius. Remember that a lot of the way in which the Zodiac works is, first of all, to tie signs to whole sign houses. The houses were thought of as places that pin heaven to earth, so that the houses are really the earthly dimension of the chart, that's where you actually kind of feel the planet earth as its own entity in the language of astrology, it's through the houses because they're connected to our visual realm, our sky, our horizons. And the four angular, whole sign houses were thought of as like steaks that pin the sky to the earth. And, as such, one thing that was also really important is that angular houses have a kind of affinity with fixed signs, which we wouldn't think of, because we're used to the 12 letter alphabet, which thinks of house one as Aries house four as Cancer, how seven is Libra. And so we get we in modern astrology, we think we think a lot of the tropical signs, but in ancient astrology, more the signs that were more similar to that those foundational places of the first, 10th, seventh and fourth houses that sort of pin heaven to earth, in a birth chart, were the the fixed signs, so they were thought to be the more anchoring places because during those parts of the solar year archetype really understood not literally, it's like a symbolic language. So you can use this language regardless of whether your seasons line up with the northern hemisphere, not because it's a symbolic language. But the way that they were mapping it out, in part had to do with the fact that the fixity of these signs comes during the middle of the one of the four seasons. And it's not that the weather is stablest that at time of year it has to do with the quality of light. It's a system that's not so much based on the weather, as it is based on the alternation of light and dark in the solar year. That alternation of light and dark is fundamental to Hermetic philosophy, Platonic philosophy, Pythagorean, Orphic, Egyptian mysticism, Indian philosophy, all of the ancient mystics, were very interested in the alternation of light and dark, you see the exact same thing in the I Ching in terms of the entire mapping of the 64 hexagrams sequence. It's all about the alternations and the variations between light and dark. And and the two are just as sacred. It's not light and dark isn't good versus evil. This Zoroastrians get into that a little bit more. And there are some people who sort of moralise the struggle between light and dark or make one better than the other. But by and large, you see people understanding these as two complimentary opposites that are that are working together and can express a huge range of different symbolic meanings when interpreted in an irregular setting.

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So, for example, what's happening during Aquarius season? Well, during Aquarius season, let's start by saying you're on the dark half of the year symbolically speaking. So you're working from the fall Equinox all the way up to the spring equinox Libra to Aries. Again, symbolically speaking from the northern hemisphere standpoint, where this symbolic language was created, and the way it was oriented, that is the time of year where there will be more darkness during the 24 hour period and there is light. If you flip it around on the from Aries to Libra, you're on the light half of the year will be more light than dark. So this is the dark half of the year Aquarius, but it is the light side of the dark half of the year, there's a dark side of the dark half of the year and a light side of the dark half of the year. And then on the light side, there's a light side of the light side of the year and there's a dark side of the light side of the year. The first three signs of autumn are the dark side of the dark half of the year. When you get to Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces the light is moving upward and emerging and growing again. So the light is growing, but it's still in the dark half of the year. So Aquarius comes in the middle of the light rising from within the darkness of the dark half of the year.

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Okay, now you have to kind of grok that because it's a it's a full alternation of yin and yang throughout the whole year. And so much of the meanings that we get from the signs are not rooted in Gods or myths about Gods, those myths sort of loosely, are associated or affiliated with a more basic alternation of light and dark. So what's happening in Aquarius, light is steadily rising out of the darkness, but the darkness is still in power, the darkness is still dominant. And in a sense it's a core rationale behind so many of the different expressions that we understand to be Aquarian. And it's also arguably the reason one of the reasons that Saturn comes to be associated with this sign as well as with Capricorn. We're not going to unpack Capricorn right now, just Aquarius. But how can we see this for example? Well, light steadily rising out of the darkness, while darkness is still empowered tends to translate into a fixation on the future in contrast to the status quo, the future being seen as the distant light or ideal toward which one is heading in the sense that the rise of light in the in the future vision of the summer solstice, the Sun rising up its arc in the sky, the ecliptic rising up toward the pole star, the fixed ideal toward which we're moving. And that's coming out of the darkness that tends to pit the past against the future, it tends to pit the status quo against a future ideal invention, technology, something that takes us out of the ignorance or darkness of what is into a brave new world, a bright new future. That's sort of where this comes from. But it also pits the status quo or what is against the new or the future in a way that is sometimes very difficult. If you look back, for example, you think of sort of Aquarian moments in history just on a on a purely sort of symbolic associative level. You think of people like Galileo, and Copernicus, basically heretics who are pushing the boundaries and saying, No, no, there's something more there's a different view, there's a different understanding of the cosmos. And they're threatened by the institutions of the powers of the world, the Catholic Church, for example. We always tend to think of that as being uranian. But actually, Uranus is associated with Aquarius, because we have this ancient sort of symbolism of the light rising out of the darkness, while the darkness is still in empowered, and this is a fixed sign. The fixed sign means that the degree to which progress in the future in a future ideal are pitted against some kind of status quo can be very extreme and set in and like stubborn and rigid and sort of defiant towards one another. And we get that in Aquarius a lot. You also have the status quo broken. There's a more ideal state. This could be technological, scientific, social, cultural, political. But people take this to mean that Aquarius is the sign of real true progress. Well, yes and no, it depends on what you mean by progress. Remember that ancient astrologers believe that the universe, the material universe, material energy, that's the only one kind of energy there's spiritual energy as well. And there's so many dimensions of reality and part of the goal of astrology is to help us sort of start to awaken to our nature as multi dimensional beings who are more than just material. On that path, one thing that they're very clear about is that time is the moving image of eternity as Plato says, what does that mean? It means that, you're going to have light ages, and you're going to have dark ages round and round and round. There's no beginning and there's no end to this. It's cyclical, it's eternal. And so we're watching a shadow dance between light and dark. And of course, at this stage of the great circle, you'll always feel that sense that the perfect ending is in the in the future somewhere. And so we worship at the altar of the future in Aquarius in particular. But that future can look very different to a republican compared to a democrat, from a libertarian compared to you know, someone else with a different philosophy. So everyone is always captured by Aquarius, in my experience, in terms of it being the sign of progress, the sign of some kind of uplifting, bright future. But people have very different ideas about what that means. And remember that ancient astrologers thought of time itself Light and Dark Ages is constantly cycling and circling. So if you get too caught up in worshipping at the altar of the future, or at the altar of the past, oh, it was so good way back then a little bit more Capricornian. We've lost ourselves, we need to get back to the Golden Age, we need to get back to the garden, right? That's a little bit more Capricornian. Aquarius tends to be more about, you know, we're lost right now, we've been lost in the past. And it's a progressive path toward enlightenment in the future, it's, in a sense, more masculine sort of linear, and can be very cold and rational and linear, and how it views progress and change, which is a problem when you consider that the that that the soul is, by nature, timeless, and that even the material energy is moving in circles and cycles and is itself a reflection of eternity, meaning that time is in a sense, timeless. It moves in circles forever without beginning or end. So how do we deal with the tension between what is and what we wish to be in the future if we know that the future is also going to be impermanent and that these cycles will just keep going. So that changes things a little bit? It's sort of like saying, look, I have to learn how to be an idealist who moves toward a future with good intentions or with virtue and with the sense that things could get better is that's an archetypal reality that is a part of the the lila of divine creation. But we have to learn how to carry that in a way that doesn't get, we don't get sucked into believing that the future will save us. No, it's nothing in time in the past, or the future will save us because who we are is timeless, right and even real, even material reality in itself is timeless, if we start to understand that these patterns move in cycles, like they do. So you have to take all of that into consideration when understanding the sort of ancient and ancient view of the signs and these cycles and motifs about progress in the future.

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Aquarius will tend to get fixated on the future, on to an ideal state that one believes should lead us from the past toward the future from a broken status quo or a broken history toward a more ideal state. Even the idea that we fell and and that we have to redeem ourselves somewhere in the future become the highest version of ourselves, the New Age movement, the human potential movement, the fixation in modern astrology and the evolution of the soul from one lifetime to the next mastering lessons as we go. Many of these themes are very Aquarian, but you have to again, remember that circularity remember the timelessness because otherwise dogma sneaks in and that's kind of a dark side of Aquarius. The focus on whatever is marginalised or in the dark as opposed to something in the future that's more ideal where the marginalised thing sort of emerges from the clutches of darkness, that's also a big theme for Aquarius and that can be a good thing for example, you think about in the early 90s, the the race riots after the Rodney King beating, and there's many other things that were in the early 90s the internet's taking off so there's the technological progress cultural, political, social, civic rights, etc. And we had that already in this recent entry of Saturn back into Aquarius George Floyd was killed and then what happened? Massive riots and demonstrations and and and peaceful protests all around the world. So this is the kind of stuff that tends to happen in Aquarius, the system is broken, what is the more ideal state in the future? But sometimes you also get this zealous quality which is part of Aquarius as well. Remember that the railing against what is and focus on a new future is a revolutionary spirit, but it can come out sometimes in real extremes, utopian thinking, for example, you see sort of systemic historical issues, for example, in how police officers deal with people of colour, and then you see the call for change, and then you have also voices saying, abolish the police. And then you have people being like, Whoa, and maybe they don't understand exactly what's being meant by that, or maybe they don't understand that a call for reform is being made. Or maybe it should have been, maybe the call for reform should be stated differently. I'm not trying to make any kind of statement here, I'm just saying, Can you feel it? As soon as you get into this, you start feeling the tension between preserving the status quo and demanding change. And another thing that you have to be careful of with Aquarius is this desire to abolish something that is in favour of what is new, and that can get really crazy, like, you have a history of like really strong Aquarian signatures with fascist dictators and like, the extremes of political and social and cultural brainwashing. George Orwell was born with Saturn and Aquarius, right? So he, you know, so it can be it can get really dystopian is what I'm trying to say. And as someone who lives in the Twin Cities here, you know, I've had the experience already since being here of talking to a range of people and seeing their reactions to having stores destroyed, versus seeing really positive change in growth. And so you're going to get a handful of both of that, the destructive side of railing against the status quo, that's truly just destructive and not constructive and not helpful. But on the other hand, you're going to get things that represent some steps in the right direction for for different kinds of issues.

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Let me give you another example. Sarah Palin has a load of planets in Aquarius. Now there is someone who, you know, when she came onto the scene, there was a, you know, Vice, she couldn't be the vice president to McCain. And, you know, I remember people at the time, and I was into astrology people were like, How can she be Aquarian? And I was like, it's Saturn's sign, like, What are you talking about? It doesn't matter if you're politically conservative, or politically liberal, or whatever you consider yourself to be. Aquarius will focus on that revolutionary theme and energy in any direction. There's going to be that polarity between the status quo and what's envisioned as the distant future ideal because of the fact that the Sun is moving out from the darkness toward the light in this fixed sign still on the dark half of the year.

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We see this in the myth of the water pour Ganymede, he is the best, most virtuous, beautiful youth who Zeus sort of covets. Let's talk about the word covet for a second. Covet: To desire or wish for inordinately or without regard for the rights of others. Also, covet: desire, lust after, probably ultimately from Latin cupiditas, that would be passionate desire, eagerness ambition from cupidos, very desirous from cupere, long for or desire. That's connecting, of course to Cupid. This is very interesting because Ganymede has a lot in common with Cupid, and in the sense that Zeus lusts or longs for or covets this young boy and abducts him some say through eagle form, abducted him, takes him up to heaven and makes him his water bearer. But this puts them in a really difficult position because then the humans in a sense can covet the position of Ganymede, because he gets to hang out with the gods. It's an envious position. He's sort of semi divine all sudden, he's the best among human beings with the highest potential. But at the exact same time, you have Zeus, coveting him and something that that he has. So it's as though you can't win if you're gaining made, right, the gods are slightly jealous of you and want to hold and possess you, and the people are maybe jealous that you're in that position. It's not really an enviable position to be in because you're sort of not quite a God, and you're not quite a person. You're in this weird liminal state where you're sort of dissociated from both the realm of the gods and the realm of people. And this is something that I think Aquarius, as a sign often embodies. Like you'll hear people say, aquarians love humanity but hate humans. I think it's the other way around. I think it's that Aquarian. Sometimes, you know, if you have a lot of Aquarius, energy, sort of identify with it psychologically, there's a sense in which you feel other worldly while in this world or you don't, you may not feel quite connected to other people. And some of that is because the Aquarian energy by nature is so unique and so different from that status quo. And there's this weird way in which that can then marginalise you or it can be an alienating factor. So there's a sort of beautiful alien quality to aquarians. If you ever see Aquarius rising people, some of the most interesting like peacock pageantry displays of fashion, the beautiful alien, right, so and that's all that all kind of relates back to this myth of Ganymede. And so we have to be really careful because some of this also tells us that part of what happens with Aquarius is we also get into this dichotomy: whoever has power in power hierarchies in the world, which always have existed, we've always had dominance hierarchies, it's just part of nature, and that we people try to dominate each other. Whoever is dominant, right, and whoever's alienated or marginalised, on the other side, will tend to covet or desire or want more power, status, recognition authority, or even just rights. But one of the things that we have to be careful of is, if there's an oppressor, that is marginalising, alienating putting their foot on other people. Aquarius can very nicely represent the need to level the playing field or move toward a more enlightened state where things are fairer, right. And this is an air quality in general. Libras like this as well, Gemini is a little different but Gemini is concerned with objectivity and open mindedness.

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Still, on the other hand, you have to be really careful because sometimes there's just a desire to flip the dominance hierarchy. Let the the oppressed rise up and take over and, ironically, can become the oppressor. And this is what often happens in revolutions. You have the American Revolution, right? The United States is coming together, this, this new land is coming together, we're liberating ourselves from the monarchy and all of this but then we become the oppressors and kill native people. You see the same thing in the French Revolution, where one of the figures, he ends up becoming the next tyrant. So you always have to be careful as well, because oftentimes, the people who are most insistent that they are being oppressed, and that something needs to change can sometimes be fueled by jealousy, and when the desire for revenge or the desire to simply flip the power structure in the opposite direction. And that's just going to keep a vicious cycle going. And that's a really tricky thing to talk about because we can identify a virtuous cause, but our motives can still be coloured by the desire to win or dominate other people. And that's why there's so many warnings from great teachers all over the world that say, don't let your righteous cause turn into self righteousness, because that's when things get flipped. And that's a big part of Ganymede, where you have this lust In this jealousy associated with something that is bright, shining and virtuous, and so there's almost like a lust for an ideal, and that the lust for it can turn into a weaponization of the ideal against other people. And I think that that is part of why, as someone who admittedly is more liberal, politically speaking, but I understand I think that that is part of why there is a really big polarisation or or division in our country right now, because part of what we have to understand is that our motives are not pure and spotless and good, just because you're a liberal, you know what I mean? And I think that we that liberals tend to think that about themselves, there's a lot of like, really covert self righteousness on the side of liberals. And I'm sorry, if you disagree with me, but that's just my own opinion. Now, that's my bias speaking, but it doesn't matter. Because you can turn the jewel of this archetype and a lot of different directions. And hopefully, I'm giving you enough insight to kind of do that on your own and figure out how that how you see that in the world.

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For example, people that have Saturn in Aquarius that are really good examples of this would be one person in particular who has pointed this out quite a bit would be Jordan Peterson. He's one of my favourite philosophers. I don't like everything he says, because he's probably more conservative than I am in different ways. But I find that my myself a a liberal that, maybe it's the fact that I have Jupiter and Saturn and Libra when I was born, but I'm like, I like putting myself in the shoes of lots of different people in lots of different arguments about things and really considering it. And it helps me to more carefully understand my own position and but while respecting other people. Jordan Peterson is someone who talks a lot about both the traps of the traps of ideology that people in the right or the left can fall into. And this is a Saturn in Aquarius expertise that he has that I think is really unique. Now if you don't like Jordan Peterson, let's still be friends, but let's flip it on the other side. How about Jon stewart? Jon Stewart is arguably kind of on the opposite side of the fence in some ways, from Jordan Peterson and has a similar kind of vibe though, as a kind of satirical social political philosopher. He's like the high priest of satire in some ways. So you know, and and his views are going to be very different from Jordan Peterson's. But notice how they're both Saturn and Aquarius. They're both masterful when it comes to understanding the underlying current of social ideology, and how there can be selfish intentions underlying good motivations, and they both have a way of picking those apart. You know, Peterson more critically and rationally, and Stuart more humorously and satirically, but I think that that's a really interesting juxtaposition of to Saturn and Aquarius figures.

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George Orwell may also have other really interesting view like Ayn Rand, I don't know if you guys know her. I mean, think about her philosophy, if you know anything about it. Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Carl Sagan, a lot of different minds, but there are people who have ideology really drove them in some in some way or the relationship between life and ideology. Carl Sagan, wrote The Demon-Haunted World, and the show Cosmos was such an interesting place for people who were both rational but also poetic, and sort of had emotional intelligence, but maybe we're more on the agnostic or atheistic side of things. He's someone who brings together a lot of interesting things ideologically. You have other people who carry that sense of being the sort of brilliant outsider like Nina Simone who had it in her first house or Tory Amos, Mozart, Miley Cyrus. Also you have people who are the this kind of crazy, visionary utopian thing that's actually more dystopian, like Charles Manson. Depending on if you think Amazon is a good thing or not, Jeff Bezos. Michael Jordan, ultimate come from behind Underdog Story. interesting part of that. Howard Hughes, who was quite inventive. Houdini, another one that was like really kind of an inventor and sort of ahead of his time in some ways. Carl Jung is a good example too. Robert Oppenheimer, who worked on the Manhattan was kind of in charge of the Manhattan Project. So I hope I've diversified the field around Aquarius enough for you and that none of you are hurling tomatoes at the screen right now.

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Anyway pros and cons and emphasis on outsiders being heard, new ideas, forward thinking, a clash between habituation and progressivism, depending on how you define that, inventiveness and genius. On the other hand, you kind of get that Rebel Without a Cause motif, or becoming what we oppose or jealousy or covetousness driving our ideological beliefs. Also Frankenstein-like inventions or Promethean pride, let's progress at all costs. But actually, we're making a monster. I guarantee you with Saturn, about to square Uranus, we're going to get into all sorts of interesting things about vaccinations and it's gonna be really interesting. We'll be talking about that later. You have disembodied or dissociated qualities, worshipping at the altar of the future, for better or worse, loves humanity, maybe a little bit more disembodied on the personal level, ideologically driven, can make us dissociated from actually organic connection with others, intolerance versus open mindedness. What does that really mean? That's not just a statement, it's a question. Social experimentation, regulation, laws and censorship around the social experience, right? Those are all dynamics that are going to come up with Aquarius.

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Now finally, what does it mean that Jupiter is in the sign? Jupiter grants, zeal, enthusiasm, youthfulness and abundance to all of these qualities and dimensions of Saturn in Aquarius that we've meant that we've talked about. It as the kind of zeal and enthusiasm, enthusiasm from the word entheos, the God within. Its inceptional. Jupiter tends to start things, things that are going to take a while with Saturn. Rise of famous Aquarian themes or realities becoming bigger, more pronounced more global, more exciting fervour and almost like the fever of ideology will probably become very, very strong it already is, but it'll be more with the sense of clashing ideas about what the better future looks like. And there's going to be real push pull again, between Uranus and Saturn during all of this. There's a there's a discipline quality to Saturn, but it's met with optimism and good fortune with Zeus. Now, the last thing that I'll leave leave you with is from a book by Charles Obert called the classical seven planets. He talks about Zeus Jupiter, right here, and I'm just gonna read you one thing that he says:

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"Modern astrology often sums up Jupiter by the one word, expansion. This is part of the meaning but by no means all. Expansion is part of larger connected group of concepts. Jupiter is the planet just below Saturn. Along with the Sun, they are the largest planets, each of them has an association with rulership power and control. In the mythology as it was interpreted by Plato, Proclus, and others in the platonic tradition, Jupiter or Zeus is the demiurge, the creator or architect God who formed the manifest universe along the lines of patterns revealed from higher levels through Saturn."

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See Saturn is associated with the higher mind and it's associated with contemplatives and mystics, it's closest to the numinous realm of the Divine.

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"In terms of the planetary mythology, you can think of Saturn as giving creator and architect Jupiter the laws and patterns that Jupiter looks to as the template for his work. This means that Jupiter is not just expansion, but creation, giving order, bringing things together to make a harmonious whole."

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So you see that feeling of it being almost like a moment of architectural genius, or the moment of designing something new or there's going to be competition around what is the best design or what is the new order, and whenever there's new order, there's always the potential for stormtroopers to show up and Darth Vader and fights between Jedis and that's what George Lucas is playing on, really. So anyway, in the next episode, and last episode of this series, we're going to do is we're going to take all of this and try to consolidate it down to some basic interpretive principles that you can apply to your birth chart. We'll take them through the houses we'll talk about what it means if you have your Saturn return coming up and Aquarius, we'll talk a little bit about the square to Uranus, that's going to be part of the year ahead. So a little bit more to go. But I wanted to break this up so we didn't get too much all at once.

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