Venus Trines Neptune: Water, Water, Water

Hey everyone. This is Adam Elenbaas from Nightlight Astrology. Today, we're going to take a look at Venus making a trine to Neptune. Of course, Venus just came off the opposition to Uranus from Scorpio to Taurus, and now Venus in Scorpio is moving into a trine with Neptune in Pisces. Venus is basically touching all the outer planets as she leaves the last degrees of Scorpio. This is a pretty dramatic culmination for Venus in those last anaretic degrees of the sign. Technically, we think of the anaretic degree as a 29th degree, but if you kind of extend its meaning to include the last bound of the sign, that's typically the last couple of degrees.

So, the culmination of Venus is a little intense right now. In a sign where Venus is already bringing a little bit of heat and spice, Venus and Scorpio in a Mars-ruled sign can be just a little bit more intense tension with Venus there. So we're going to explore all of that today in relation to Venus's trine with Neptune. Give you some themes to watch for. That is our agenda for today.

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Now on that note, let us take a look at what's happening with Venus so we can see that Venus today, Tuesday, October 15, is just separating from Uranus, which means that Venus's next movement is into the trine with Neptune. By the way, if things have felt a little extra spicy, it's also because the sun and Mars are square right now. And I'm not focusing on that today because I'm kind of placing my attention on Venus. But the Sun square to Mars could require, like, some kind of, like a whole separate episode. But I've just been more focused on Venus because Venus was the recent ruler of the Eclipse. So it's kind of where I chose to place my attention today anyway.

But if you've noticed a little extra, like conflicts with authorities or clashes of egos, or stuff like that. Even issues with dads or father figures. Little Sun Mars action as well. Today, Venus is also trining Neptune, and then the next thing that Venus will do shortly is sextile Pluto, so it will hit all of the outer planets in close succession. And I talked about that a little bit yesterday, but you can see where they are just bing, bing, bing, right in a row.

So if we track this out, by the way, the aspect to Pluto will happen on Thursday, and then Venus will shift into Sagittarius. And I'm going to move the clock up just a touch so you can see that by Thursday afternoon, Venus moving into Sagittarius is, I think, a pretty good thing because we've got Venus in a Jupiter-ruled sign configured to Jupiter, even if it's by an opposition. Oppositions between the benefics aren't the worst thing in the world. And this just puts Venus into a slightly less charged, and let's call it emotionally intense territory, out of Scorpio.

So I think we're all going to be feeling a lightness coming in later this week if we just kind of follow the sign of Venus in the sky and see she's changing later in the week into a little bit, a little bit more uplifting Sagittarian space. Anyway, let's go back earlier in the week to today. Let me just back this up. All right. So here we are. We've got the Venus trine to Neptune, Scorpio to Pisces. This is still with me. Just look at how much water there is.

We have three planets today in water signs. The moon is finishing up in Pisces. We've got two planets in Scorpio water sign, we've got Mars in Cancer. So altogether, that is what, six planets in watery places. They're not so tightly configured. But we also have, we have a little bit of watery drama left to go. And I say that because you'll notice that Mars is just about to oppose Pluto. That's going to happen as Mars is culminating in watery cancer hitting trine to watery Neptune, right? Mercury is going to go through Scorpio and will configure itself to Uranus, and then again to Saturn, and then again to Neptune.

Then, the sun will enter Scorpio and start pinging off from some of these placements. So it's just a lot of water. The element of water has been very pronounced this autumn, and obviously, one of the ways we have seen that is, you know, look at the headlines. There's been a lot of natural disasters related to water. And not that that's the only I don't want us to think so literally, but that's a very literal example of the element of water being really, really strong and pronounced.

There are five themes that I want us to think about with Venus, Trine, and Neptune today. You might have noticed these yesterday, and you may notice them tomorrow, for sure, there for some people; again, depending on how these things are configured in your chart, what I would focus on would be the whole sign house and placement of Pisces and Scorpio. And the connection between those two whole sign houses in your birth chart is probably where you will notice thematically or topically, these themes, uh, fitting in right now. So keep that in mind.

Number one is an emotional release. It is about as basic and cliched as we can get, and yet it is so true that you can't you. It would be negligent not to mention it, so when Venus trines Neptune, especially with Scorpio being a sign, there can be troubled waters with Scorpio, where we're looking at things that are not easy to look at that require a degree of emotional courage or conviction, or that require us to be vulnerable, especially around topics or places or memories that are painful or traumatic. We're also looking at fears, like what we fear and what is unsettling emotionally, and Venus opposite Uranus could have really stirred things up yesterday.

And so what's coming right on the heels of Venus opposite Uranus in the trine to Neptune could be about releasing an emotional point of emotional. Lease, it's like a good cry when you just need a good cry. Or it's a space where you can just take a moment and say, I am really overwhelmed, and I need some way of processing and letting go of some of these tremendous feelings because there's nothing I can do to control the situation.

You know, it's like in, you know, in Al-Anon something that I a group, a 12, step for family members of alcoholics that I attend, didn't create it, can't control it, can't cure it. And that's true about the cosmos itself, isn't it? Like I didn't create it, I can't control it, and I can't cure it. In fact, I'm not even sure that there is anything wrong with it, although I'd like to say that there is, you know, so sometimes the best we can do is just recognize that I am feeling very overwhelmed by life and the only thing I can do is just be just sink into those feelings and see if I can Get some movement, and sometimes to get that movement going, you might need to go for a walk or do some journaling, or you may need to dance or play music or do something creative.

Creating flow is important for transit like this if you're feeling stuck because what you don't want to have to happen is for a dam to burst because you're holding and rigid. So creating some flow and allowing the overwhelmed to express themselves constructively, or allowing yourself to feel what you're feeling and move through it somehow, is a recommended approach to this kind of transit. This is one thing, if you're like, I'm not feeling emotionally overwhelmed. I'm not feeling, you know, like some intense emotional catharsis. That's fine. We have other options for you at this buffet.

So, number two, how about emotional depth and intimacy? This is very Venus Neptune in any configuration, but Venus Neptune, particularly in water signs, suggests that our relationships especially remember coming off from a Venus opposite Uranus moment where we talked about individuation and personal revolution within relationships that does not necessarily cause the relationship to break apart. Venus Trine Neptune can also be about the greater emotional depth and intimacy that is evolving, perhaps coming right off from the Venus opposition to Uranus.

We've had some surprises and some shifts that are allowing for greater emotional sharing, depth, or intimacy, and it's just clear that we're in a new place now, and this is healing, and we all of a sudden feel like our relationship got about three levels deeper. You know, there's there's more beneath the surface.

Now, that is unspeakable, and we've shared moments that go beyond words or simple events. We're entangled with each other on the level of deep thoughts and feelings and connection, and we can just feel it. This is not the same as it used to be. There is a greater shared space, and that space is now open to be explored as well.

So I would say one of the words that comes to my mind for how to make use of such a space is midwifing. How do I act as a midwife for the emotional depth, vulnerability, intimacy, and creativity that's coming forth in a moment like this? You may notice it around you. For a lot of people, it won't hit you personally, but you'll notice it in a friend, or you'll notice it at work, or you'll notice it in the news. You'll just see that greater opening. It's deep, it's weighty, and it feels consequential.

This is not just another thing, and sometimes, when you even just witness that and you witness someone else going through it, we're reminded that we live in a tentative space. It's good to be reminded that we live in a space where there's a lot at stake most of our lives. We're trying to live without that feeling that anything is at stake here because if we lived that way all the time. You know, we would be in a panic.

We talked about Pan last week, but we don't want to move so far away from Pan's reality, that instinctual sense that we live in. You know, we live on planet Earth, BBC, and there are all sorts of creatures in the psyche, in our lives, and they're not entirely predictable. This place is not entirely safe, and yet it's magical and beautiful, and there's some way of walking with trust in our hearts, despite the tentative. And sort of the sort of element of fear that is a part of nature. So how do we do that?

Venus Trine, Neptune, from Scorpio to Pisces, is a great combination for just allowing ourselves to live in deeper and more troubled waters. It's like, yeah, there's, there's dark caves and mysterious places in life. And can I just accept them? I don't have to go into them with some kind of blind, foolish optimism. I don't have to run around pretending like it's all good, you know, like that. It's this naive way of dealing with these darker realities, perhaps, but I can accept them. I can include them. So we might notice that kind of infringing on our normalcy and our sense that nothing is at stake in the world in which there's a lot at stake.

Number three, sexuality and healing. Venus Trine Neptune is so good for intimacy, so good for eroticism and fantasy and imagination to come forth into the realm of sexual and physical intimacy itself. This is a very sensual transit. I always think of the fact that on a couple of occasions, Ashley and I have ended up going to, like, a couple of spa days where we get a massage and go use the saunas at one of those places, you know. And we've done that before, and it's like, every time I'm like, Oh my God, there's Venus Neptune again.

There is a healing, sensual connection between Venus and Neptune, where we can explore subtle connectivity. One of the things that Ashley and I were listening to a podcast lately and some of it was funny because someone asked me, like, very genuinely, like, Okay, you and Ashley seem to on the outside, like, seem to have a successful relationship, or, like, a happy marriage. And I mean, I feel that way. I don't think any relationship is perfect. I'm certainly not saying that I have a picture-perfect relationship, but I feel, I feel happy.

I feel pretty lucky that I'm with someone I love so much and that loves me and that we work our stuff out together, we grow together, and all that good stuff. And someone said, Well, how have you, how have you kept intimacy alive for so long? This was someone I know personally who was asking us. And I was like, Huh? I have to think about it, you know? I was like, and then I didn't really, I was like, I don't know. I have to think about that. And I just kind of let it go because I was like, I don't really have any secret. I mean, I don't know. We've just been fortunate that we really like each other. I guess we just our ingredients cook well together. I don't know. Anyway.

So then I heard this talk. Ashley and I were both listening to this talk and when this person said this about intimacy, I was like, boom, that's it. That's what I would have said had I thought of it. Because this happens to be something that I feel is present in our relationship, and I'm probably in a lot of your relationships, at least any of those that have been, like, successful or healthy, or, you know, relatively sane and stable. And it was that you treated every act of intimacy as never just the act itself, that is.

I mean, I guess you could call it foreplay, but it's really more than foreplay. It's about, you know, for example, I'm just going to make up a scenario, but let's say that you and your lover, you make love, and then you know the next day, it's kind of like, well, you I mean, some people, maybe you make love two days in a row. Maybe you make love 500 days in a row, I don't know, but let's say you're taking a break between the end of one act of intimacy and the beginning of the next time that you make love. There are probably for healthy couples, there's a way in which you anticipate and build the drama and tension through flirtation, and you know, little acts of affection until the next time you connect physically.

And so there's like this woman was talking about creating arcs between your intimate, sexual connections. And I thought this was like, Yes, this is it like, if there's anything that Ashley and I have always been good at, and that I feel like a lot of healthy couples I've seen in my life, in general, are good at, is that they're flirting with each other, and there's a way in which the relationship enacts something like foreplay constantly in between actually connecting physically and making love. And this, I thought this was such a powerful point that this woman made, and I said to Ashley, was like, That person, I know that was asking me that, and he's dealing with some stuff in his marriage right now, so I think this is probably what he was asking. Anyway, he was like, You know what? Like, what's the secret?

So, anyway, I connected with him again. And I was like, Dude, I think I thought about that, and I heard this podcast, and I referred him to the podcast, and I was like, I think it has to do with seeing intimacy, not just in the activity of sex itself, but in that kind of those in-between spaces. You know when you're not making love, or you know the couple of days between times that you connect. How are you building and developing your chemistry and tension and sweetness and affection in those spaces?

And this is Venus Neptune to a T, Venus Neptune. If Venus Neptune had a life philosophy, it would be that every nonverbal, uh, act of flirtation, affection, closeness, sweetness, every moment that you are intentional about connecting romantically, even if you're just having a conversation, or you're cooperatively cooking dinner or whatever you're doing, if you can build small, subtle, emotional, sensual connections that this is like a wave it's like a wave pattern, and then your physical intimacy is just one part of that wave pattern.

And I, you know, I swear to God, that to me, is like, there's, oh, like, I have a number of favorite couples in my life that are, like, friends with Ashley and I, and I would say, in the case of all my favorite couples who've been together for a long time and have, like, relatively healthy relationships, not that, you know, they might not. They could, any relationship could fall apart at some point. Who knows. But what I observe is playfulness, flirtation, affection, and an intimacy that is clearly at work and at play like a wave pattern, and sex itself is just one part of that.

Does that make sense? All right? Sorry, I know it's a little of it's a bit of an intimate conversation to have, like online, but this is, I believe, if there's anything that, over time, has allowed for intimacy to just continue in like a gentle wave pattern in my own relationship, it is that there's always ways of creating intimacy that should be connected to sensuality, but are not limited to that. Does that make sense? So anyway, I'm getting a little flustered talking about this, so I'm going to keep going.

So, number four is dark fantasies and imagination. Oh, and the other point I wanted to make really quick here. I actually forgot about this. The point is that for many people, Neptune Venus comes as a way of reminding us that the connection between our fantasies and the need that we have for emotional closeness and a healing, bonded, safe feeling are not disconnected from each other, hence everything I just said so like you can if you care for each other in conversations, and you're tender and sweet and affectionate and yeah, maybe even a little flirtatious outside of the bedroom that is so it's not disconnected from the bedroom itself.

That's the point. And to whatever extent we compartmentalize the sexual act itself from all the other ways that we connect is usually the extent to which that there will end up being a polarization, you know, and I think that's where a lot of couples that I've spoken to over time through my counseling practice, that's where we end up struggling is because we stopped imagining, we stopped being creative, we stopped being we stopped seeing the dance of love as something happening, both in and out of physical intimacy. That's it all right. Number four, now dark fantasies and imagination.

So the other thing that's really important for Venus and Neptune is that Venus and Scorpio have a deep, dark imagination when it contacts Neptune there. There is a need in the human imagination for things like horror films. I'm not a big fan of horror movies. I just have a hard time. I end up getting disturbed dreams and stuff like that. So, I'm very careful when watching horror movies, but the point is that we have Halloween, horror movies, thrillers, and suspense for a reason. There is something that is the human imagination. There's a need to stay close to those realities that make our hair stand on end and that thrill us, and so just honoring and acknowledging the need for dark or erotic imaginations and fantasies is a big part of this transit.

So just watch for that honor and acknowledge it, and also notice if this is a transit that's pointing to the tendency that you may have to get possessed by such energies in an unhealthy way. Um, I remember there was a time in my life when I had an Ayahuasca ceremony, and I used to love watching. I watched every horror movie that came out because it was so entertaining and fun. And then I had an Ayahuasca ceremony and was like, Oh, this is actually disturbing your consciousness. You need to cut back. And since then, that was years ago; I very seldom watch horror movies when I do; it's pretty fun, still, right? But I just had to shift that pattern for myself.

So, I mean, it could also be about feedback, about, you know, some people need the feedback that, like, hey, you know, going so dark and heavy and deep all the time isn't necessarily the best thing. So by the way, I want to go. I also want to go back to the point that I was making earlier. Can apply to all kinds of relationships. The Venus-Neptune contact can be there in parenting. It can be there.

For example, I noticed this summer that my kids were home from school. There was something we were doing that was kind of, you know, there was a lot of there were a lot of fun things. You know, during the school year, there's a schedule, and the weekends are fun. You know, the school days and the routine of coming home and doing a little homework, reading, dinner, and bedtime all happen pretty quickly. It's amazing how little time you have with your kids between getting home from school and going to bed again.

So, during the summer, they were getting excited because there were lots of fun things to do. Oh, this is fun. We're watching a movie. Oh, we're having a bonfire in the backyard, you know. And like, one day, my daughter goes, what are we doing that's fun today? And I was like, well, nothing, you know, and she was like, and one of the things that made me reflect upon it was that maybe you can relate to this. I don't know if maybe I'm just in my head about this, right? But I was like, gosh, I'm so busy, and I work so much, and one of the ways I overcompensate is to create big, fun things when I finally do have time.

And it was a very similar insight, which was that big fun activities need to be connected on a continuum with presence in their lives, right? With just the daily connecting and affection and doing things together, even if they're just small things or for less amounts of time, and even if they're not super dramatic things, that there's a connection, there's an intimacy, there's a care, there's attending, there's a presence, and then the big things are just connected on that continuum, and they don't have to overcompensate for the absence of that kind of connection.

That's the same thing that exists in parenting, with my kids saying, where's the next big thing? Again, I'm overcompensated because I'm so busy, and I need to work on creating a more regular, kind of rhythmic connection with them, right? That was important feedback for me. I really was. But it's the same thing in friendships, okay?

We're going on a road trip together, you know, and we haven't seen each other in six years, and we don't talk anymore. It's like, you know, relationships take tending in regular, small, everyday moments, and paradoxically, the kind of big, dramatic, fun things that we do with friends are only as good as how sort of regularly we are connecting with that friendship, like intimacy, should be part of a wave pattern. So you see, it's the same thing. It's not just sex. It's like in a friendship, or even, I would even say that, like in your work, that tending to small things with care and attention is important, so that when it comes to big projects, there's not this sense of, um, the big stuff versus the mundane stuff.

So we just start creating polarization when we place these big, epic, otherworldly moments of emotional connection or release or pleasure or bliss against the daily, mundane stuff. So the worst thing that Venus Neptune transits bring Neptune to Venus in the birth chart is like some growing inability to live with the status quo that leads us to do something that is totally unrealistic and ungrounded, which is why, for example, Neptune Venus contacts often lead to affairs. They lead to affairs because we're sitting there going, like, I'm so bored I don't like, you know that life is not boring, you know? And it's like, when you're a kid, you know, your mom goes, there's not only boring people or whatever, whatever, whatever that was, right? Remember that saying?

So, in a sense, though, it's true. It's like, you know if we can create subtle, constant, gentle, connected states to whatever we are doing, it takes the pressure off. Off from big things to have to carry everything, and that's when big things can actually be unique because they're not carrying the load of having to save us.

This is true for sexual intimacy as well, which is why I say in so many couples and relationships that I admire, there is a lot of affection and tenderness and connection that you just see displayed regularly, joking, friendship, moving through life together in sweet ways, takes the pressure off from, you know, intimacy to have to save you from the routines of life, right? So, you know, it's not easy to do, though, because it requires, it's like a devotional activity. You have to stay connected. This is very Venus-Neptune anyway.

Finally, shock and soothe, which is just a way of saying, Look, we're coming off from Venus opposite Uranus. Shock, maybe what we need right now is just a little soothing. And how we look for that is so personal and individual. But you know, my advice for everybody is just, if you're coming off from a little intensity and shocking or disturbing or unsettling kind of Uranian activity in the past day or so. You know, look for ways of soothing and pacifying, gently taking care of yourself, and being real about it if you need to be a little protective or defensive of your space or your emotions right now. I think that's okay, all right.

Well, anyway, here are just some thoughts for today. And by the way, I just want to make it clear I do not have. I am zero expert on anything to do with relationships, whether it's parenting, friendships, or marriage. Like I am just a learner like everybody else. So, I only share things that I have observed to be true or helpful in my own process of learning and growing. So anyway, I'll leave us with that if you stick around after I sign off. There's an informational video about the upcoming year one program.

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