Why Mars’ Square to Saturn Can Be So Difficult

Hey everyone, this is Adam Elenbaas from Nightlight Astrology, and today, we're going to take a look at Mars's upcoming square to Saturn. Mars is entering the sign of Sagittarius, where it will immediately make a square to Saturn in Pisces. This is coming over the weekend. We looked yesterday at the Sun's entrance into Sagittarius and its square to Saturn in terms of what makes the transits so difficult, and I said something.

Yesterday, I said, understand with understanding, there's freedom, and I think that is what that's that is the golden opportunity that astrology provides us with. There are all sorts of seasons in life that we walk through daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly for long periods of time in our life that, you know, create major chapters of our life, and astrology is there to help us understand the archetypal nature of these different periods of time so that we can live through them more consciously and find more.

Let's call it participatory value. It helps to understand what makes the transit difficult because once you have that understanding, in a weird way, even though superficially it's maybe still difficult, internally, there's a kind of knowing there's a kind of freedom and there's a kind of appreciating that actually can take place. So, our goal today is to try to understand what makes Mars-Saturn combinations, especially squares and oppositions, so difficult.

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Now, this square between Mars and Sagittarius and Saturn in Pisces is going to come through really Saturday, the 25th, but you'll be experiencing, and if we give it about a three-degree range, you'll be experiencing and all the way through next Wednesday, with the most intense parts probably coming the rest of this week through the weekend.

So that is the little degree range. You can see Mars in Sagittarius, Saturn, and Pisces; both are interestingly ruled by Jupiter. Mars is also in the bounds of Jupiter. If you look carefully at that little outer planetary wheel, and Jupiter is retrograde. But getting ready, it's getting closer and closer to stationing and turning direct. This is kind of like the last quarter moon moment for Jupiter, and so, in a weird way, this cycle is tied into Jupiter, and that's something that we're going to be looking at a little bit later, probably in tomorrow's video, but maybe Fridays.

But anyway, we're going to talk about the implications of everything being very Jupiterian, as Jupiter is approaching its station to turn direct and what that might mean today; what I want to talk about is, you know, Mars, Saturn has a reputation for being difficult, just like the Sun Saturn does.

So what we can do is we can spend some time trying to understand why it's difficult. Like I said at the beginning, if you understand something, it brings a greater degree of freedom, and you're free to move about the cabin, even if you're on an airplane ride called Mars-Saturn, which just sounds like someone would like a piece of luggage would fall on your head or as you'd get into a slap fight with someone who wouldn't move, or something does not sound like a wonderful airplane ride to be on. But let's just say, well, we're on that ride, we're on that roller coaster or whatever. But if you understand the nature of the ride you're on, it changes the nature of how you experience it, and that's what our goal is for today.

So why is Mars Saturn so difficult? Okay, so, if this is one very interesting thing to think about, you have cutting as a Mars signification and separation as a Saturnian signification. Not surprisingly, when you put cutting and separation together, you get the act of sacrifice; there have been acts of sacrifice in the human experience for 1000s of years, and some of them are pretty messed up, right, and some of them are very every day very mundane and we can all understand and relate to anything in life that you want to get good at, for example, an instrument, or singing or dancing or a sport or a skill or a craft requires some degree of sacrifice.

On the other hand, sometimes there is there can be like a masochistic tendency, you know, people who are constantly sack making sacrifices are sometimes people who think, oh, if I just keep tearing more hunks of myself off, you know, I'm gonna get love from other people. Or, you know, there's so anyway, there's all sorts of dysfunctional shadows around the act of sacrifice. But there's also a way in which sacrifice is a sacred part of life, and that's, in a nutshell, why this transit is difficult because it is a transit that has long been associated with the act of sacrifice.

Okay, so, you know, there's, for example, we have 1000s of years ago, the belief that in order for the rain to come and bring forth an abundance of food or crops or vegetation, for vegetation to grow in the rain to come that you needed to kill animals, offer them to the gods and then they would be happy, and then they would bring the rain.

So, there is a long-standing belief that there are higher powers that require that we enter into some kind of bloodletting or cutting. We're separating off parts of ourselves and offering to them in order for them to give something of their selves back. So you also have this very, you have like the whole history of like compensatory sacrifice, or, you know, kind of transactional, a transactional model of the universe, you want to get something you got to give something and what I want to say is that there's nothing inherently wrong about this model, how could there be because it is a model that has existed, it's part of reality, apparently, you know, so and it makes sense to us.

It makes sense that you can't, again, you can't get good at, you know, for me, I'm thinking about playing the guitar, I can't get good at playing guitar without practicing, and so there's some sense that like, does that there are desires that we have that we cannot reach we cannot taste or achieve unless we put some blood, sweat, tears and sacrifice into what we're doing.

So anyway, there's the number one thing that we can say about Mars-Saturn, why it's difficult is that the act of sacrifice isn't easy. There are obviously examples of a sacrificial attitude that in and of itself is problematic. I mean, set aside if you have the right kind of sacrifice, right? You know, it's like, well, maybe there's just a very legitimate thing you want to do again and get better at something, okay, sacrifices required, and nobody really bats an eye at that. I mean, it's just, it's just known, you got to put the work in to get something out of it. But there are all sorts of problems with sacrifice, not just one problem.

But first and foremost, is that sacrifice isn't easy. Mars and Saturn, as a pair, suggest that you're going to have to cut a little hunk of your metaphorical flesh off from yourself and separate it from yourself as a way of getting something done or accomplished. I mean, there are lots of Mars-Saturn combinations, but one of the big Mars-Saturn combinations is the act of sacrifice, and sacrifice isn't easy, and that's what makes this hard.

But number two, is that making the right sacrifice? Maybe that's even harder? And by that, I mean, what is the right sacrifice of your time, your energy, your resources, and your body? You know, what is the right sacrifice? I think one of the hardest things that we're faced with every day is we have a lot of different desires. Almost all of those desires, you know, will require time, energy, effort, and maintenance, and so then we have to look at all of them and say, Well, what do I prioritize among my desires? Which sacrifices are the right ones to make?

I mean, it's in other words, it's just not easy to, like, okay, sacrifice is going to be required if you want to be a parent, sacrifice is going to be required if you want to be an astrologer, you know, sacrifice is going to be required. If you want to be a dog owner, my dog is sleeping back there. I think you can see her there she is sleeping, Hilda, she requires sacrifice, you know, sacrifice of my time, my energy, my effort, my care and devotion.

Even care and devotion, it gets easy to see like, Oh, you don't you know, it doesn't require sacrifice, it requires devotion. Okay, yeah, but devotion is not always easy, and devotion will often require sacrifice. So the point is just, I mean, obviously, there are very soft and gentle and loving ways of developing anything like you can very gently and devotedly get better at anything, you know. So it's not like, the only model for for getting something that you desire is to these, like hard acts of sacrifice, where you're taking a knife and you know, again, cutting off a part of your own one a limb to you know, and throwing it into the fire and offering it to the gods and hoping that something happens that you know, some you get something that you want.

But again, it's like one of the hardest parts about Mars-Saturn is that a sacrifice is not easy, no matter what it is. For most of us, we experience it as a kind of labor, and then making the right sacrifice isn't easy. How much time and energy have you put into things that didn't reciprocate? Or that didn't pan out the way you thought they would, or that you put in the time and effort and energy, and then when you got to the results, you realize you didn't even really want that you didn't even really want what you set out to achieve in the first place.

I can't tell you how many times I sit down with clients, and they'll say, Well, you know, I went to school for this, and that I really thought it was what I wanted to do, and then I got into the job, and maybe I've made some money, or maybe I've even gotten promotions and all of a sudden I feel like it's empty and it's not really what I thought it was gonna be and I made all If I made all the sacrifice to get here, and I'm not even really happy with it.

It's like, sacrifice isn't easy, and then making the right sacrifice isn't easy, because you can put a lot of time and energy into things that, you know, there's no guarantee, we'll have made it worth it and that's what's hard about Mars-Saturn is that Mars-Saturn will turn up the volume on the need to sacrifice on the need to make the right sacrifice on the awareness that the outcome and circumstances, you know, the outcomes matter, like, Well, I'm gonna have to choose among different things to pour my energy into, it's like, well, you know, you're, if you're gonna, if you're gonna rip off a finger and throw it into the sacrificial fire of the universe, it's overwhelming to do that and then to consider that, you have to ask for the right thing, in response. That's hard.

Number three is that making the right sacrifice for the right reasons isn't easy as well; we can, for example, we can be ready to sacrifice. We can think we know what we want to sacrifice for, but we can be doing it for the wrong reasons.

For example, I want to get good at this, or that skill, and I'm ready to make the sacrifice to do it. But the reason I want to get good at this or that skill is so that people will validate me and love me. That's problematic that, generally speaking, if you're doing something only for the sake of being validated by other people, and it's missing that in inner space of love and devotion, like I actually like this, I actually love this, and so I'm willing to sacrifice if it's just well, I'm going to do this, I'm gonna make this big sacrifice and go to med school and make a shitload of money because then I'll be rich and powerful and I'm not saying I'm, I run into this all the time, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but like, people go and do tremendous amounts of sacrifice and they pour their hearts into it and they get really good results only to find out they didn't do it for the right reasons.

So that's a lot of pressure. Do you feel the pressure? That's an important; like the Mars-Saturn keyword is pressure, the pressure to sacrifice to make the right sacrifice to have the right reasons for making the right sacrifice. None of this is easy, and frankly, most of us aren't qualified. You know, it's like it's above our pay grade, to know, to make a sacrifice with sort of, like, chin up and chest out, courageous, and then to make the right one and for the right reasons. Who can bear that?

It's like, most of us mess that up a good amount in our lives; we get that whole equation wrong, and it's not that, you know, there's no penalty for getting it wrong. As far as I can tell, the universe supports our learning experience, like we're just here to learn. But it doesn't feel that way. With Mars-Saturn, it feels like you've got to get it right, and that's what makes the transit kind of difficult.

The number four reason is that not being attached to the results of sacrifice isn't easy, either. So you're willing to make a sacrifice; you've got the right sacrifice. You make it for the right reasons, and then, guess what, it doesn't pan out. You make the sacrifice, and it never amounts to anything. Who, that's even harder. Or it leads to a result that you did not predict that you didn't like.

I once heard someone describe Mars-Saturn as a pressure cooker, and I think this is why because you can have all the right reasons and motivations and the right kind of, you know, the willingness to do hard things, and then it none of it can turn out and like it doesn't necessarily turn out in your favor. It doesn't turn out it doesn't give you something that is like you're not always rewarded for this kind of work or process, and that's befuddling to us continuing to have an element of our lives that is sacrificial when the results aren't there also isn't easy. If you have a few experiences in your life of putting a lot of work and sincere effort and sacrifice in for some good reasons. Based on things that you love and you don't get the result you're looking for. You don't get a job that pays well. You don't have anyone really validating or appreciating your creative work, or you, you know, you never really feel like it's going anywhere, and you've put a lot in, and it's come from your heart. It is then easy to think well.

It's not worth it, you know, and then often it's gonna be natural for us to seek ways of trying to take a path of least resistance. It's not worth it to put so much into things and become cynical. The hardest thing to develop in my experience is a belief or an understanding that sacrifice for nothing other than the act of sacrifice is a worthwhile endeavor. That putting time and energy into things you love, for good reasons, and not being attached to the results is a worthy process. It's not about what you get in return.

It's not how things turn out; it's not what comes of it all. It's just that that activity does something good for the soul in the same way that going for a jog or a hike and working up a sweat is somehow just good for the body. That an act of sacrifice, and I mean, hopefully not acts of sacrifice that, you know, like, we're not trying to harm ourselves here; I think we're trying to talk about this from a very everyday standpoint, putting the time and energy in without attachment to result is a worthwhile endeavor, that it has its own rewards, that it is its own reward. Regardless of what comes back, whether the gods send the rain or not. That is really hard.

I think that is one of the hardest things to do because my dog is motivated by treats. Affirmation for good work done and treats treat training, and we're not that different, like we need to be encouraged, and we need to see that hard work and sacrifice pay off even in the smallest ways. We need to feel appreciated and seen for the work we put in for the blood, sweat, and tears that we've, you know, thrown into that cosmic fire.

So I think it is really hard when Mars-Saturn shows up in denies us results. It says you know what, you've put in a lot of hard work, and that's great. We're not going to give you the result. What do we do when that happens? I think the hardest thing to do, honestly, is to say it's okay. That was enjoyable. That was That was hard. But that was that was a good activity in and of itself. I'm not going to give up the sacrificial attitude, like a sacrificial dimension of my psyche, and my relationship with the universe isn't going to be dependent on what I get from that act. This is a deepening experience that often happens for people around Mars-Saturn transits.

Number six, not developing an ego around sacrifice are the results of sacrifices and easy here's the thing. You can develop a kind of your ego, can develop some you can you can, how can I put this? What I mean by ego is you can develop a big ego, a problematic ego, and you can develop that in a couple of different ways. One, look at me, look at all the work and time and energy I've put in, and look at what it's gotten me. I'm so fantastic. I'm so sacrificial; I'm so hard-working. But you know, okay, so I'd say 90% of the people that I have met, who have done fantastic things and put in a time, a lot of time and work and energy. A lot of people that I've admired have, you know, that I've gotten to know in my life, have talked openly about the challenges of not developing an ego around success or hard work or time put in that it's a temptation.

It's like a natural temptation that comes with the sacrificial act and the results that come from it. But it goes back to have you recognize the value in the act of sacrifice without any attachment to the results. Because if you have, then you're able to recognize, yes, this process sometimes yields fantastic results. But it's not because I'm so special, because it just as easily could have been that I put in all that time and energy, and for whatever reason that, I don't understand. It didn't turn out that way, and you have to keep that perspective; not developing an ego around hard work, sacrifice, and the good results you get from it is not easy. It's a temptation that I think all of us face.

It's also easy to develop an ego around the disappointments and failures of your efforts. Why put in a lot of time and energy and, like, woe is me. You know, it's not fair, and then you can develop resentments and a chip on the shoulder and bitterness and cynicism, and that can come about because we think we're justified to I'm surely it is justifiable to develop such an attitude when I've put so much in, and I feel cheated. So, it is not easy for us to handle the success or the failure that comes along with acts of sacrifice isn't hard work?

Number seven, this one's a little bit different; we're gonna go in a different direction. Now, by the way, actually, before I do that, let me go back one step and share with you guys something that I think is really interesting. So I actually looked up the etymology of the word sacrifice and one of the things that it means is an offering. I'll put it so simple. We all know this, and it's, it sounds trite, but it's like, you know, I'm a parent, right? There's a, and I think the universe has this parental dimension to it. I don't think the universe is like a dad or a mom. Right? But I think it has like dad or mom qualities, you know, it's like, there's a way in which we interact with the universe, and we experience it like a mother or father. So, I can use parenting analogies; sometimes they feel right.

When my daughter comes up to me, and she shows me, look at the hard work that I've done this or that, oh, wow, that's amazing. You know, that's so good, and I affirm her, and I encourage her, and then she looks at me, and she goes, so can I have a cookie now? And there are times as a parent where you have to be like, You did a great job. But you don't get a cookie right now, you know? And then there are other times where you, you know, most of the time, it's not because she asked for it, sometimes she does, and I'll give her a cookie. But yeah, you give them cookies, that was great work, you know, she's, this is pretty innocent, you can tell when it's sort of devious or when it's innocent and then, you know, sometimes does a great job hard work, and she's not asking for any attention and then all of a sudden, I just want to pour it on her, I want to, you know what I mean?

So it's a funny, like, hide and seek game that we also have to play with our own desire to be rewarded. We have to hide that from ourselves, you know, like, don't, don't go there, and that seems to like it; we seem to do better because we get to experience the honor and the reward of the hard work and then also, without paying attention to it, it seems more conducive to good things coming, and I don't think that's because there's, like a law at play. Exactly. I think it's more sensitive and relational than that.

Anyway, so an offering is something that you make freely generously from the heart. That is a way of thinking of sacrifice that maybe, you know, we could get we could maybe that's an adjustment we can make to our thinking somehow. Alright, anyway, number seven, experiencing persecution, the etymology of the word persecution. Speaking of etymologies, it is to follow, pursue, or hunt down. Ooh, that's not like that doesn't sound fun.

So Mars is the hunter. Mars is the planet of persecution, as well as the planet of martyrs. Saturn is the planet of scapegoats and outcasts; when you combine these two planets, one of the themes that often comes up is the experience of being hunted down and targeted as another; you will see acts of, you know, like, prejudice and racism and religious intolerance and all sorts of other ring and pursuing or hunting the other or feeling pursued or attacked as another somehow.

So, it was interesting recently, someone was like, you know, isn't it nice? We're at a family gathering. They're like, you know, isn't it nice? You do something so, so different for a living? You know, isn't it nice that no one brings it up like everyone is? So, you know, like, everyone's so like, courteous, and like, no one brings it up. It's like that's a weird thing to say. So I said, Yes. I said, Honestly, I look at this person honestly; yeah, it is relieving for me that no one brings up that I'm such a third-rate citizen.

Obviously, I was joking. But, like, the person looked at me, and they were like, oh, yeah, I mean, come on, we think about what you're saying.
But that kind of othering, you know, some people experience that way more than I will ever know, you know, certainly,

I've experienced it. I was bullied in high school, and that was a really challenging time in my life, and I would say the only way I've really experienced that as an adult is in terms of how people treat me when they hear what I do for a living, which I have experienced a A lot of Yeah, like, not so nice treatment.

Sometimes, it's not said, but you can feel it, and sometimes it's directly said. So that's about it for me though, like I don't, you know, there are little things, but some people have experienced it, you know, again, like, if you're born in certain orientations, skin colors from different parts of the world, speaking different languages in different parts of this country, it can be really bad, you know, and all over the world.

This has been a thing for a very long time that people are other and persecute, and first and foremost, when Saturn and Mars comes up, one of the classical significations is persecution and, so, is there anything easy about persecution? Not that, you know, not that I'm aware of, I think it's a very difficult experience, and one that is often traumatizing and harming, and you know, so that's it. This is a transit that can be about persecution, and persecution just isn't easy.

But more than that, number eight is the enduring, trusting by trusting, I mean, trusting, still maintaining a sense of graceful trusting positivity about life, when you're being persecuted is not easy. My favorite people, I think some of my favorite heroes, probably like all of you, are those people who have seen extreme forms of persecution and somehow not lost their faith or trust in the basic goodness of human beings or the basic goodness of the universe.

People aren't born this way; they learn these kinds of behaviors, and you've heard that probably said before, and I don't know if that's true or not; I'm just saying, it's that just that can you endure, and live through being harassed or persecuted, and somehow maintain a sense of faith, optimism, hope, trust, goodness, cheering as vitality, not that you need to not grieve or be hurt or angry, not that any of those experiences aren't valid, but like, can you move through them and still maintain your sunshine, you know, you know, it's like, you can hurt me, but you can't steal the basic sunshine burst of my heart. You know what I mean?

Mars-Saturn is about can we endure and still, especially when things are like rocks and slings and arrows are kind of coming at us and maintain our shine? I don't think that's easy. I think that's one of the hardest things out there. So you hear me here, suggesting that we should maintain the shine. I'm not saying that it's easier that I would know how to do that in, you know, if the persecution gets bad enough, I'm not saying I'm capable. But it is an archetypal reality that we seem to celebrate people who get kicked, and they don't become bitter. They don't become like the thing that's persecuting them. Mars-Saturn is like, can you endure and not become like the thing that's afflicting you? The shadow or menacing, monstrous darkness? That's a flick? Can you somehow keep your light intact? Not holding grudges or developing resentments isn't easy.

So when you're being persecuted? It is not easy. Like I'll tell you that as soon as there were. Oh, man. I mean, I've kind of shared this before there have been people in, I would say, in my life as an astrologer who have openly criticized what I do as though it is fake, phony, you know, bogus, not valid, something like that and you know, what's really hard for me is as soon as I'm not around that person, the desire to shit talk that person you know, or the feeling that I'm justified in like a very negative and antagonistic view toward that person. That doesn't mean I have to like them, it doesn't mean that I have to be friends with them, or it doesn't mean I can't set really healthy boundaries.

It is hard not to carry a chip on the shoulder, develop resentment, grudges, and vindictive attitude toward people that have harmed me or, you know, come at me just because I'm an astrologer. So that's a challenge, and that's why this transit is hard because it will push us and tempt us at times to hold grudges or develop resentments. I'm angry, and I'm not moving in what I anger that I feel toward you because I've justified in It's very Mars-Saturn. Like, Yo, you know, the problem is that over time, that tension breaks things.

Number ten, not building an ego identity around persecution isn't easy either. For example, I've endured such persecution; look at how special I am. Or, again, just like sacrifice. If things haven't gone the way that you've wanted to, it's easy to develop a kind of woe is me. Everything or everyone is against me, and so I'm justified in having a kind of resentful or embittered personality or something like that. It is really challenging. I'm not saying it's easy. I'm not saying I've been pushed to my limit. I think I could very easily become someone with a chip on my shoulder, resentful, holding grudges, vindictive, angry, traumatized, that could happen to me. So I'm not sitting here thinking that any of this is so easy. But that's what we're working with, with this transit.

So, why Mars-Saturn is so difficult? Because two of the major significations are sacrifice and persecution, I want to deal with that Happy Wednesday. You know, but I hope that in discussing these things, we have understanding, and with understanding comes freedom. So that we can learn how to have a relationship with archetypal experiences, persecution, and sacrifice are archetypal.

They have been around for 1000s of years, in all different kinds of spaces and relationships, and, you know, the more that we work into and understand the reality and the power of these experiences, what they can do for the soul, or how they can keep us from a soulful life, I think the happier we're going to be, and the more astrology is really playing its role in our life in the way that it should be. Astrology should be a part of a spiritual lifestyle. That's helping us to be spiritually informed and living a more meaningful existence. So we'll end it there for today. Hope you guys are having a good one.

We're going to look now at Jupiter's role in both of these Sun-Mars Saturn squares that we visited this week; we're going to take a look at what it means that these things are happening in light of Jupiter's retrogradation and stationing to turn direct because Jupiter has a ton of power over all of these planets right now and that's an interesting thing that we haven't, we have yet to explore. So we'll be doing that, like tomorrow or Friday.

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