Why Saturn in Pisces Loves Negative Emotions

Hey everyone, this is Adam Elenbaas from Nightlight Astrology, and today we are going to take another look at Saturn's entrance into Pisces. This is part of my intention to cover this major transit, a major ingress of Saturn into Pisces, from as many different angles as possible so that people get a really deep immersion into the archetype.

I think that's valuable to do as Saturn, a very slow-moving planet, is changing signs gonna be in Pisces for a couple of years. Now, let's really get to know it right. We've done that a bunch already; we're going to take a look at it from a slightly different angle. Today, we're going to talk about Saturn in Pisces in the relationship to negative emotions. And it's a very simple combination. Saturn as the greater malefic a planet that is often very challenging. Pisces is a very emotional sign. So when you put the two together, one of the things that can come up are a variety of complicated or quote-unquote negative emotions. And I use that word kind of loosely and don't mean to, you know, I think we'll diversify what we mean by negative emotions quite a bit today, so don't worry about that.

So that's what we're going to do. We're going to take a look at why Saturn and Pisces love negative emotions and what it does both positively and negatively to our emotional body, so to speak when Saturn is in the sign of Pisces. So that's our goal for today. We will be doing this, by the way, with Pluto's entrance into Aquarius next week and saying quite a bit about that as well. So don't worry if you're looking forward to Pluto's entrance into Aquarius already. If you're already totally over Saturn's entrance into Pisces, then don't worry; your Pluto content is coming soon, to be sure so, and we'll do the same thing. We'll look at it from a variety of different angles really help us get to know the archetype. Alright, that's, that's what we've got what we're going to do today.

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Okay, so let's go over to the Real Time Clock; just really briefly remind everyone what the heck we're looking at. I like to do that every day. Saturn into Pisces now a degree in, so it's like, you know, starting to it's it's more than just dipped its big toe in it's got like its feet and ankles in the water. I think that image is probably appropriate since Pisces actually rules the feet. But anyway, that's where it is, and moving through this in the latter part of the moon cycle right now. It should be interesting, especially one of the days that I'm really looking forward to just from a standpoint of being an astrologer who likes to see how things show up is this balsamic Moon in Pisces with Saturn, which is really from March 19, all the way up to the new Moon, which happens on March 21, which is the equinox. So it's an interesting balsamic Moon leading to this very fiery, explosive moment at the new Moon. And that balsamic Moon should give us a flavor, I guess, Saturn in Pisces flavor, I think.

Anyway, so today, we're going to talk about why Saturn in Pisces loves and negative emotions; what do they do for us? And this is more than just, you know, negative emotions at the outset. People might initially resist that and go like, wait, you know, I don't like any kind of emotion being just labeled as negative. And sure, fair enough, I think what you'll find is that the purpose of this talk is meant to describe the benefit or what is the archetypal need for such emotions. What do they do for the soul? So we're going to call them negative, but then talk about, you know, why they are soulful, despite being quote-unquote, negative, right? So that's kind of the purpose.

Also, you know, kind of the pros and cons of the quote-unquote negative emotions that Saturn in Pisces tends to generate. Now again, where are we getting this basic premise from that Saturn in Pisces has something to do with negative emotions, from the fact that Saturn is associated with melancholy. It was a ruler of melancholy, especially when Saturn is in water signs, Pisces Cancer Scorpio, you'll see that melancholic temperament activated for a couple of years, and especially people who are already inclined to it, you may feel that a little bit more powerfully.

It's associated with all the complicated emotions of, you know, romanticism, for example, which is not just, you know, a romance romanticism is not just rose-colored glasses, right? It's a very complicated worldview that involves angst and dissatisfaction as much as it may involve longings and love and, sort of, you know, the romantic, like the grand emotional, romantic states. So romanticism is, you know, complicated. And Saturn in Pisces is going to be, among other things, associated with all of the heavy and complex. It's like a hurricane of emotions, and in fact, is associated oftentimes with the way that water can erode structures, right?

So Saturn's structure, water is kind of the erosion of structure or the seeping of water through boundaries. And so there's one of the common things associated with Saturn and Pisces is the feeling of overwhelm, of being overwhelmed of having your normal conscious boundaries, sort of overwhelmed, maybe it's because, you know, a family member has to live with you for a month, right. Or maybe it's because of what's happening in the larger industry that you work in, or your job or your company or your relationship, but there's a sense of, like, larger forces that are out of your control, sort of flooding, and washing away the structures that are often in place to keep us feeling like protected and sort of grounded and so forth.

This is often a very good thing. These overwhelms these floods, so to speak, are often very positive. But as we read about earlier, was last week, we talked about Saturn-Neptune eras, and how they're, you know, associated with the tsunami that happened in Japan and the Hurricane Katrina and like, so it can be like, these floods and overwhelms can be very powerful and oftentimes, very overwhelming, you know, to the point where it's like, there's a relief mission that's needed in the psyche, there's, we need to call in the Red Cross, so to speak, to help us move through the waves. I want to talk today about the different kinds of negative emotions associated with Saturn in Pisces and what to watch for, what to be careful of, and also what they do for us. So let's get into it. I've got 10 of them; as always, I like lists.

So number one, dissatisfaction is part of love. This was really demonstrated for me in studying and participating in the bhakti yoga tradition, which will always be dear to my heart, especially the figures of Krishna and Radha, and in their love one of the things that defines their love deepens and intensifies their love. You could say that Krishna and Radha are, In part, like figures that stand in to represent the soul's relationship with God, or the soul and its relationship with the Divinity, that is, other, self and other or God and creation are the one in the many or you know, yin and yang. And that one of the ways that love is deepened and intensified is through separation. That separation is not just a negative thing but is the means by which love is intensified. And everybody knows this, spend a little time apart from your lover and how you feel; your love for them often will intensify.

But it intensifies through complicated, heavy, and sometimes like dark emotions; I miss you, I feel so alone, and my world is falling apart without you. These emotions are quote-unquote negative, but they are part and parcel of what intensifies and deepens our attachments, affection, and devotion. So dissatisfaction is inherently in the most positive sense; dissatisfaction and angst and longing and separation are all part of what deepen and intensify, you know, healthy loving attachments, whether it's in romantic love, or friendship, or, you know, whatever else.

Sometimes we're afraid of conflict in emotionally difficult spaces because we want to keep the harmony alive. But with the sign of maturity is as far as you know, I've heard from my therapist, and a lot of the writers who come from the archetypal psychology tradition that I really appreciate is this idea that you know, a relationship that doesn't have a history of good fights, like good battles. And there's been major campaign victories on either side, that if you don't have that history of, sort of, like, meaningful, difficult negative emotional spaces that you've had to traverse together, and sometimes there's a lot of, you know, angst and, and there's even fighting that, if you don't have that, then there, there there, it's like, there's a whole dimension of your intimacy that there's probably not going to grow.

So, you know, pain is part of what makes love so Rich. That's another way of putting it. And so this Saturn in Pisces is bringing us back to that reality. Oh, it's difficult. Well, do you not want a deeper and more, you know, sophisticated and nuanced connection, you know, whether it's to reality itself or to the person you love or whatever? That's a, you know, rhetorical question Saturn in Pisces might be asking.

Number two, happiness often sets one apart. So you know, one of the things that happiness has frequently been associated with by poets and mystics all throughout the history of humankind is the sun. And what does the sun do as a light in the sky? It stands alone, it stands apart, and Saturn and Pisces is not so fond of that, right? There's a need for collective relational identification. And when you're happy, you stand often in that happiness. You're feeling self-sufficient, you're feeling self-gratified, and you're feeling self-luminous. Not all happiness is rooted in standing apart or standing alone. But there is a way in which, you know, when you're really happy, when I'm really happy, you stand apart.

Saturn in Pisces doesn't like things necessarily to stand apart and would rather things be related through, you know, emotional connections, and often more complex emotional connections that have to do with the darker, heavier, more difficult realities that we share in.

So, for example, I know that you guys have gone through this; I have dated people in my past, where if they were really happy, and I was pretty immature, like in my early 20s, and was needy and stuff like that if they were really happy, I would take it as an affront. I'd be like, Oh, they're happy; that means I'm left out. I couldn't consciously say this or understand that this is what was going on. But I just thought, you know, if they're, if they're happy, and they're feeling really happy in themselves, and there would be some way in which I would want to try to bring them back to me through negative emotion. And that was something that, you know, I would say, if there's one of the things I'm most grateful for, in the ayahuasca experiences I had, it was that Ayahuasca really showed me that pattern and was like, that's not a healthy thing to do, you know, to people you love. And it's not healthy for you either, because you want to be able to be self-luminous as well. And not all the time, but like, you want to have that capacity and not resent it when you see it in someone else.

I also had relationships where that was done to me, you know, I don't know, I'm sure you guys have to where if you're happy and someone's like, oh, I don't like this. Let me try to make them feel guilty for being happy or make them try to loop them back into connection to me through some kind of drama. You're feeling good. Oh, well, you know, my stomach hurts. It's you know what I mean? So you gotta be careful of this. It's definitely a Saturn in any kind of water sign type of pattern, but you know, in Pisces, there can be a way in which it's like, you know, don't no, no, don't stand apart, let's, let's get into some kind of shared grief here. Because isn't that nice to be connected? You know?

Well, Misery loves company. And that's not a bad thing. Because we are bound together in the things that we carry together, and that's a beautiful part of Saturn and Pisces, it can also make you resent happiness.

Number three, pain attracts attention. And I don't mean, you know, there are positive and negative, you know, examples of this. One of the ways I've noticed that my girls, you know, little kids, four and seven years old, if they're not feeling seen or noticed that they might just start saying, like, my tummy doesn't feel good. And if I, oh, you know, like, your tummy doesn't feel good. Let's pick my daughter up, you know, and hug her and put her on my lap and, or whatever, and spend a little time with her and 10 minutes later, how's your tummy feel now? Better? You know? And it's true. It's true. It's like, you know, watch Winnie the Pooh. Winnie the Pooh is such a wonderful example of all of the temperaments on display. And it's oftentimes, like, I feel kind of sad. Why are you sad? I just don't feel joined and connected to anyone. But how does that manifest before we're consciously aware of it? My tummy hurts, you know what I mean?

So there's a truth in the fact that our pain is like a little light going off that suggesting that we want connection and that we need connection, and it's painful to not have it, but then it can show up in ways that, you know, it's like, it tries to cloak itself. Well, you know, please give me some attention.

Then, you know, for some people, that becomes problematic; it becomes a pattern of seeking attention in connection through, you know, constantly being in need, or being hurt or being having a problem or something like that. You know, I would say, when I remember when I started writing online, the first way in which I ever shared online was there was a thing called Easy Journal. It was like a public space where you could read people's journals. And this was a couple of years before I decided to do an MFA in nonfiction or memoir writing. And, you know, that would that primed me for it because I was writing about my life and experiences but with, with the sense that there was an audience that was just kind of weird. And I had a journal long before that was just for me, but then it was like this weird, interesting forum.

My Easy Journal had back in the day for me, you know, having 1000 people look at it was a huge deal. That was a huge deal to me. And I was like, Oh, my easy Journal is popular, you know, because I had a somewhat big audience for my easy Journal; the people didn't even know who I was. And what is so interesting about that is that I started noticing early on that the angsty year that I was in my Easy Journal, the more, the better it did, you know, and there's this really interesting quote that I found. I love this quote; I don't know what this is from, but it's from Rob Thomas's Rat Saw God, which I don't know if that's like a book or what. I swear you are the only person I know who makes decisions based on what will provide the best material for a diary.

That's a very Saturn in Pisces statement, in my opinion. And it's you can't blame or be upset at the impulse behind the desire to step into some kind of negative emotional state because of how who and what it attracts. Like, you know, when you're singing the blues, people show up to listen, you know, you know what I mean? And often and share.

Number four is overcoming pain binds us together with others. One of the things that I notice about I would say there's a particular client that I see and it's just archetypal client a, they get married at a very early age, like say 18,19,20 years old, they get married at that age, and they have to overcome all of the hardships of becoming an adult, and they do so with their lover. Then all of a sudden, there comes a stage at which your finances are relatively secure, you got a relatively secure job, maybe you got some health care, you know, you've got your car, whatever you're, you're kind of like, okay, we're not just struggling to survive and grow each other up anymore. And this client comes to talk with me, maybe, You know, 10 15 years beyond that era, you know, and they're saying, I just feel like, you know, we were so connected in the beginning, and now we're, we're not.

So there's this, one of the things that I'll often say is, you know, it's interesting how having something having hardships to overcome can be one of the spaces in which intimacy flourishes. Like when you're bound together, solving a problem with a lover for ten years of your life throughout your 20s that binds you together, all of a sudden, things aren't as stressful, and how do we relate any longer? And it's important to learn how to relate to new, new problems that, you know, relationships need problems to solve.

I know that sounds like, well, we don't want problems; we want to get to a space where we're content and like, I don't think so. It's like, my response is like, Yeah, I mean, that's kind of boring. I mean, what do you want? Do you want your life to be like Zen flute music playing and there's all of the drama in the world has been solved, your bills are perfectly in order, you know, and you probably don't have kids, if that's the case. But you get the point.

I think that if we have crosses to carry together, even if it's not like maybe it shouldn't be that, you know, your whole life is defined by the crosses you carry, but you need things to carry together. Like I reflect on the fact that one of the things my wife and I like to do in the evenings after the kids are in bed is we like to sit and talk about our day, and at least a portion of that will feature the heaviness that we're carrying, or that we're feeling or experiencing. And then there's usually the ability to like hold space for one another, but then set that down and like laugh or move into other spaces. But you need that place where you're carrying something.

I think people don't understand that therapy is less about trying to go and solve something and more about trying to acknowledge the fact that we need to share spaces with other human beings, where it's specifically about the beauty and the soulfulness of pain that you need space for that. I think we like to cloak it under, like, well, there are these problems, you know, but what did James Hillman say about problems? This is one of my favorite quotes of all time.

Why do we focus so intensely on our problems? What draws us to them? Why are they so attractive? They have the magnet power of love. Somehow we desire our problems. We are in love with them, and much as we want to get rid of them, problems sustain us, and maybe that's why they don't go away. What would life be without them completely tranquilized and loveless? There is a secret love hiding and each problem.

Problems bind us together with other people; they bind us together with ourselves. So, you know, people ask like, oh, you know, what, when will there be a day when you know all of the problems of the world are solved? And we're all, you know, holding hands and spinning in a field of sunlight or whatever. And, you know, I've never been attracted to that personally. I mean, there's just too much angst in my soul and too much appreciation for that angst, even consciously. I mean, what to speak of the unconscious ways in which I'm drawn to those things, right? But I just think that if we could develop a taste for the reality and the sort of undeniability of pain, suffering impermanence, complicated, quote-unquote, negative emotions, we'd probably do better just by realizing that they are a part of things. They're a part of the fabric of life.

Number five, saving people, makes us feel useful. There's a whole thing about Saturn and Pisces that has to do with broken people or things and the heroic need to, you know, help and heal and save. And there's an egoic way in which we have to be careful because if we're building our whole sense of being worthy, or worthwhile, or our, you know, our self-esteem is rooted in the feeling that I'm a savior. I'm a helper; I'm a healer. You know, how many another client A, right? Another thing that I see 24/7 is people come into the reading and they say, I know that I'm a healer, but I haven't figured out how to translate that into making a living yet. And I'm always like, you know, why is it that like three out of four people it comes in and says, Oh, I'm trying to figure out a way to move my career in the direction of being a healer.

I think, in part, I don't think the world really acknowledges or makes a lot of room for people to be giving those kinds of gifts, just like it's hard for artists to be recognized and appreciated in the same way that other careers are Right, so I think there's something just deficient about, you know, the world and its ability to recognize healers and helpers. Often our healthcare workers are the most unappreciated right so, and teachers too, and you know, but people who naturally have a helping spirit are often just undervalued and not treated well, not paid well. So there's something to that on the same, but on the same.

On the other hand, I have noticed that there is a sense of, you know, that, that we because we're attracted to the sharing of burdens and the complicated states of pain, and that part of that constellated around victims and redeemers. And the redeemer is like it, you know, people may legitimately be called to heal and help and serve. And then there's a way in which we may be feeling like, oh, I want to be the person who saves and helps and redeems others and build, you know, success and like a career and, and, you know, wealth and whatever, and power through that kind of thing. And that makes us it's like, it implicates us in the negative emotions, but it also somehow gives us that feeling of being apart; Well, I'm the hero of those negative emotional spaces.

I think that in I'll be totally honest, as someone who's worked in the quote, unquote, New Age industry, I said, quote-unquote, today, like 30 times you need to stop someone needs to feel like I need to have a fine if I say that again. All right. So I think the New Age basically capitalizes on this at its worst, in the astrology, the Reiki, the yoga, the whole world of it is like, you know, you're a healer. And if you just take this workshop, you know then you're natural healing. And of course, you're a healer, why, because you've suffered so much, you know, and it's like, that's the story you've suffered so much. So you know what you should do? This world of suffering and pain is now so familiar to you. It's the like, the water you, you know, you swim in, or you live in like a fish, it doesn't even recognize it, now you're aware of it, and that makes you a little different.

So maybe you're a healer, right? And then let's, let's build an ego off from staying in that kind of world, but now being a hero within it. And that's not always a bad thing. Like, I'm not trying to just slam that there are people who experience trauma and oftentimes are then called to serve or heal in some role, in some capacity. And then there's this weird way in which we want to have, like the merit badge of having been through lots of complicated emotions, and knowing trauma and pain, but then like, having, we all, I really have my shit together now, you know, I've got my Reiki certification and my practice, and I make money and blah, blah, blah. And, yeah, I think it's, you know, it's, it's a story that's there, it's real. And it's also one that, you know, we have to be kind of careful of at times. Okay, anyway, I'll go on before I draw the ire of everyone listening.

Number six problems make us feel like we know better. There's a weird way in which, if you if there are, if you're very aware of problems, right, then you're sitting, you're also like, in the analyst chair, you know, it's like, oh, look at all these problems and look at, you know, look at how well I know them. I mean, I will be honest, and say that part of my attraction to talking about archetypes in general, is that there's something about the familiarity with, like, all of the all of human drama and the ability to like articulate thoughts about it that, you know, gratifies my ego.

That's not always a bad thing. Like, you know, there's a reason that there are people who are, you know, experts, psychoanalysts, or expert archetypal psychologists or whatever. A familiarity with problems and complicated realities. In the human heart, grant us a sense of wisdom. There is a wisdom Saturn in Pisces is precisely that kind of wisdom, the wisdom of suffering, the wisdom of, you know, the dramas of the human heart.

However, there is a way in which we can stay in the vortex or like a whirlpool of negative stuff simply because being familiar with it grants us this kind of, well, look at how sagely I am when it comes to dark and heavy shit, you know what I mean? So you got to be careful of that even though the same archetype can grant us, you know, real sort of psychological insight into like the labyrinth of human dynamics.

Number seven is not having someone or something to blame shifts the focus back to us. Did you know that Saturn was traditionally associated with scapegoats? Or the archetype of the scapegoat? I read this on a blog from the Sydney Jewish Museum, which apparently is a blog from, I guess, Australia says the origins as a scapegoat. Did you know the history of the word scapegoat? It was first coined in the 16th century to describe the ritual animals of the Jewish community placed their sins onto in preparation for the Yom Kippur war. Today we use the word scapegoat to describe people who symbolically take on the sins of others. And it goes on to describe this history of it and Christian and Jewish thought it's very fascinating.

I think what's interesting about the idea of the scapegoat is that the scapegoat is something that we've; it's like all of the sins or all of the negative emotions and problems, since the weather where the word sin just means to have missed the mark, the blemishes, the stains, you put them onto something, and that something then carries those things and purifies it eliminates them because all everything gets put onto that, that goat.

Well, in some ways, it's very human and natural to do that, like, oh, I have; I'm just naturally as a soul, my soul is a complex web of feelings and thoughts and ideas, some of them are dark, and that's just, that's just what it is, it's like looking at the world and saying that, you know, part of the world involves them, you know, animals killing each other, and then, you know, mudslides and like, it includes like dark stuff, well the soul just includes dark stuff.

At times, rather than just owning that, there's, there's a need to put that onto something else, rather than just dealing with the inherent darkness and suffering that is a part of us, that we want to place that on to someone or something else and that can be a problem, a complaint, you know, a chronic pattern, a person, you know what I mean? A culprit this is what's to blame; this is the problem. So it's very easy Saturn in Pisces can amplify that feeling that someone or something, let's put, let's place it all on this thing. You know, I'll give you an example.

I have almost always; this is another client, like a very common thing that I've seen over the years is that someone will come in and they'll be, like, some kind of environmental irritant. But then, in a while, it's a very real irritant. Like, let's say it's mold, there's like black mold in your house or something like that, which is terrible and can cause all sorts of problems for people, right? Real problems. But then I'll notice that sometimes that black mold starts becoming like, it becomes the answer to like everything, like, everything becomes about the black mold. And it's a weird thing because, in a sense, the black mold is like, it's like taking over. And, it's like a psychic fungus, though as much as it is a literal one. And anyway, a lot can be said about that. And one of the things, anyway, that I've noticed is that in those sessions, one of the things that I'll do is try to pull things apart. Well, maybe some of what you're dealing with here relates over to this other person with this other area of your life. And we can separate that a little bit from, like, you know, the mold problem in your house, even though they may be related, let's try to pull things apart a little bit more.

That's a very valuable thing that we can do with Saturn in Pisces, where things can kind of flood, and one thing can kind of see past one boundary into another. And so it's easy for one thing to become blamed for like one thing to take on the problems of everything. And, you know, it's easy because then that shifts the focus off from the complexity, well, some, some of the problems over here, some of it's over here, and some of it's over here, well, that's harder to identify, especially when you're overwhelmed to do that process of differentiating pain and suffering. So, you know, some people just won't, they won't want to do that.

In not doing that, the blame will become sort of like, you know, it'll shift our all onto one thing, just like the scapegoat. And that's easy and comfortable because it takes the focus off from us or off from the difficulty of sort of differentiating, carefully differentiating, and having some meaningful boundaries to separate out and like, like, distribute the pain a little bit more intelligently.

So anyway, not having someone or something to blame can shift the focus back to us in a way that's really uncomfortable. But living with that discomfort and trying to work boundaries in and between the different levels of pain and problematic emotions is like a sign of intelligence, and that's something that Saturn in Pisces can actually help us with.

Number eight is guilt, and culpability bind us to the drama of the world, with no escape. And this is one of the great things about, you know, collective guilt and, and everything that Pisces often entails is that, like, if you step into the reality of suffering as part of life as part of reality, then it's not something you're trying to rise above. It's something you're a part of, which can bind you meaningfully to the world, and I think that's one of the great gifts of Saturn and Pisces. But also, there's a way in which, you know, people always want you to; there's a certain group of people that's like, they want you to be stuck again to the same dramatic news cycle that they are. It's like, well, there is a world, and we shouldn't try to bypass that world; we should be we're implicated in it, right? And so Saturn in Pisces can draw us into that implication and bind us to the world and deeper love, especially through the darker elements. But it's also sometimes there's kind of like a guilt and a shame like, Hey, you should be stressed out like I am, you know? Alright.

Number nine criticism. Nothing is ever good enough. This kind of mentality is romantic and angsty; nothing's ever good enough that smuggles romantic idealism into everything. Listen, do you ever have people in your life? Who, when you talk to them, it's like, what's wrong with this? Or what's wrong with that? Or how could this be better or, you know, this person? You know, this is how they kind of don't do it for me or wherever there's someone who's like a critic and always complaining, and you know, just generally dissatisfied. One of the things that are interesting is that you know, with Saturn or Saturn in Pisces is sort of emblematic of that personality that, like, I'm constantly sort of bothered by how everything falls short, you know, that there's often like the core of that.

Critical dissatisfaction is romantic idealism is almost like perfectionism. And having a little bit more awareness of that dichotomy between criticism and nothing ever good enough. And sort of the perfect romantic ideal and just knowing that they, they hang out together, it might seem like one when we're one is really loud the other is present when someone is a sort of a romantic idealist, you know, and they're always like, always talking about the most beautiful, you know, just over the top with their romantic ideations. Probably there's a really intense inner critic nearby of the voice of judgment. And where there also is chronic dissatisfaction, there is like someone looking at the stars somewhere in the soul, like just completely enamored by the beauty of everything but nothing can compare, you know what I mean? So, they go together, and Saturn and Pisces should, if anything, can help us be more aware of how closely those two figures are in the psyche.

Number 10, people who love to cleanse and clean need blemishes. Like, this is, you know, for me, I was like, one of the reasons that I finally realized that it was time for me to, like, I gotten the message. So I needed to hang up the phone with ten years of drinking Ayahuasca was, that I realized that clinic cleaning, cleansing healing, and self-work are they don't, they don't ever stop. It's an activity. You know, it's kind of like, you're an eternal being who has no beginning and end, and if you want to cleanse and clean and heal, there's an endless amount of smudges, you know, and it can be very satisfying to clean a smudge, get it shining nice and new. But you also have to, you know, realize at a certain point, there's no end to this, there's no space at which you're like, I think there's a linear myth of progress that's like, you know, that's always like covertly present in the desire to cleanse and clean and heal and purify and sage and smudge and you know, like, all this stuff, things that I do myself, by the way.

Saturn in Pisces can be the chronic need to heal and clean and purify that doesn't really end and becomes, at some point can become almost pathological. I'm broken things are, you know, I went to yet another workshop where I dug up my family history, and you know, it's like, more and more and more and more. And, you know, I think what's important is not that people do or don't participate in cleaning and cleansing and healing; the more that they recognize that it is archetypal doesn't make them better than anyone else and doesn't necessarily mean that there aren't lots of other ways of living a life or of growing or of, you know, being spiritual.

Being spiritual does not mean that I am constantly excavating, like, you know, old bones from the past and processing them or something. At the same time, the feeling of there, you know, like deep cleansing and healing, is a part of Saturn and Pisces. So, in other words, the need to clean and cleanse will always go alongside of the awareness of blemishes. They just go together, and I like to think about it more like, you know, some people like to go jogging. Some people like to go healing. Some people like to go stargazing, some people like to go smudging and healing themselves, and to me, I see them now as their seasons for these activities. Some people, you know, like pitch their tent in certain in the space of certain kinds of activities, they just like to do them over and over again.

Usually, though, it helps to understand that what we're doing is archetypal. And the great illusion of Saturn and Pisces is that you know if you ever stopped doing this kind of self-healing work, you know, you'll fall behind, or you won't be good enough, or you won't be whole, or complete. You have to keep healing until you've reached the end or something like that. That's a little problematic, I think. Anyway, these are all just ideas for you to play with in relation to Saturn's entrance into Pisces. I hope they've been useful for you. I'll leave it there for today.

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