The 12th House Sun: A live reading with Chelsea

Hey everyone, this is Adam Elenbaas from Nightlight Astrology. And today, I'm really excited to present for you a live reading from one of my online classrooms. Now, this reading is with a woman named Chelsea, who gave me permission to use our reading on my YouTube channel today; I wanted to present this to you guys for a couple of reasons; I think it serves a few purposes. One is that it's been a while since I've done readings that are filled with, you know, actual craft, which I think is helpful because a lot of people take in astrology content not only to, you know, get the scoop on what the latest transits are doing. But also because you're interested in learning about the subject of astrology and maybe how to read birth charts. And I address most of that in my classrooms. But in the past, I'd had more chart demos than I've had recently. And a lot of that's just had to do with the ongoing series that I'm doing and things like that. So I wanted to get back to that today.

So that's one of the reasons why we're doing it; I hope that you'll be able to learn some things from it. Maybe just for me seeing how any astrologer reads a chart, even if my style or my approach, or my way of looking at a chart might be different, is useful. It's helpful to learn and grow from seeing astrological readings done. And the second purpose it serves is to promote my upcoming program, Ancient Astrology for the Modern Mystic, which begins on November 12. This reading comes from one of my online classrooms, and these kinds of readings are a staple of my online programs for a few reasons. One I like to be able to after looking at, for example, in year one, we're looking at natal theory, which has to do with all of the basic delineation techniques for birth charts. What did ancient astrologers say about how to read a birth chart? What kind of factors can we consider? And how do we take that information and then make it accessible and relevant in a modern setting with another soul sitting in front of us? So in order to demonstrate that, toward the end of the program, as we're starting to work, in practice or on charts that people bring into class, we also sort of intersperse the practice sessions with live readings. So we have a live client who comes in, I sit down with that live client, I read for them, just like I would Monday through Friday when I'm seeing clients in my practice, everyone is silent off camera and microphone, just observing, I'll have the reading with the client. And then after the client leaves, we then break down the reading and have craft discussion. And I talked about, you know, maybe what I would have done differently, what I thought really went well. And people will ask questions about, you know, why did you do this? Or how did this happen, or maybe ask questions about technical aspects of the chart that we didn't get into in the reading or whatever?

So I wanted to give everyone also a sneak preview into what I feel is one of the most valuable and, you know, kind of cool parts about my program, which is the amount of actual hands-on astrology that we do with real people. So in my program, the last stretch, the last, let's say ten sessions out of 30 on the year, those two to three hours that we spend together, the first hour is a live client like Chelsea that you're going to see today. After she's after that reading is done, then she leaves, and we sit down and break down the craft. So I hope that that being said, you will consider signing up for the new program. It is called Ancient Astrology for the Modern Mystic. It begins on November 12. You can check it out on my website, which is nightlightastrology.com. So check it out right here. Go into the Courses page first, your course scroll down, and you'll learn more about the program overall. And as you scroll down, you can also find out everything the program includes, and at the bottom, you can register.

Now we have need-based tuition spots open, and I've been getting a lot of emails from people basically being like I don't know if I qualify and actually wrote a post about this. I said, you know, there's sometimes people have guilt or shame around asking for help. Don't do it; just ask for help. That's what they're there for. We have a certain amount of spots that are set aside for people to take advantage of. So, you know, if you're just if you're on a fixed income, that qualifies; you know, if you're someone who can't afford it, then we ask you to just use the Earlybird payment or the payment plan. And if you're someone who would really like to take the class but it's like you don't want to put yourself into a bad situation, then use the tuition assistance. We're glad to help you out with that. So any questions about the program at all, email us info @nightlightastrology.com. And that being said, I also want to say a special thank you to Chelsea for letting us look at her chart. And I just asked that in the comments section. You know, just be kind; this is a person who's putting themselves out there for an entire YouTube audience to see after being in a relatively more private classroom environment. So, you know, in the comments section afterward, you know, just keep the comments really uplifting and supportive. I would really appreciate that, and I'm sure Chelsea will as well. But yeah, that is all I have, So I hope you guys enjoy the reading Take it easy.

Adam Elenbaas
All right, well, Chelsea, welcome. How are you?

Chelsea
I'm doing well.

Adam Elenbaas
Yes. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay. Perfect. Awesome. Well, thanks so much for being our class guinea pig today. Really appreciate it. Yeah, so this, you're, you're coming in toward the really like the last quarter or so of a one-year program for advanced students of ancient astrology. And the gist of the program is that every week I bring a new client in and read their chart. And then, you know, we kind of discuss, and people get to learn by seeing a live reading. So it'll just be the two of us. But everyone else is kind of taking notes as they're thinking about how to become an astrologer. So, as much or as little as you feel comfortable sharing in the setting obviously is totally fine. Everything's confidential. And we'll give you a recording of the reading afterward, too, so you can re-listen to it. And if questions come up later, you could always email me too. How much astrology are you comfortable with? Or do you already know? I guess, is it something you do a lot?

Chelsea
It is lately. Um, I first got into it via your channel two years ago. And since then, I've delved into other creators' material. But I would say that I'm pretty, like, moderately there and how it works.

Adam Elenbaas
Okay, you know what? Your audio and video are chopping up really badly. So let's just turn off our videos; we'll just do it audio just so that that way we don't. Hopefully, we'll get better audio quality that way. Okay, perfect. So when you wrote in, you mentioned some of the things on your mind to talk about today. But I think it really helps me, for sure. And I think it'll help everyone here today. If you kind of in your life, give it to us, in your own words, what would be what's going on in your life right now? What would be most useful to talk about? I can certainly make reference to what you wrote if you want, but I think it would be helpful to just kind of hear you articulated, you know, here in person.

Chelsea
Okay. Um, my name is Chelsea. I am 24. And I currently live in New Jersey, down the shore in New Jersey, with my mom and her husband. Since 2020, I haven't really worked for good almost two years until October of 2021. And that period of time without working was colored by a lot of grief for me, not necessarily for the pandemic. Although, it definitely helped to turn my attention inward to all that. I did not really grieve. For example, just a childhood that was pretty difficult. I have a single mom and a dad who wasn't really around at all since age 10. My mom was pretty abusive as far as, like, verbal and definitely physical as well, and our relationship has matured, though as I got older, and now I live with her here in New Jersey, she has softened, and we're even enjoying like a wonderful sort of, like calm period with Jupiter in my hat Aries house, the sixth house. And I think of it as a gift; it's a way to develop compassion for the people around me, both experiencing grief and being in a place that I don't really see as my dream home or, certainly, not my end goal. So, first, I would like to see if there can be any clarity for the next step I should take in order to find myself in a happier, even happier way of, of living. And not just one that I find difficult but beneficial through that compassionate, sad work that I've been doing for the past couple of years.

Adam Elenbaas
When you mentioned you're living with your mom, still, I just want to make sure I heard everything correctly.

Chelsea
Yeah, so I left her home when I was 17. Right out of high school, I moved around a lot between Seattle and Las Vegas. And then, because of the pandemic, while I was living in Philly, this was the safest place to be. So I moved back.

Adam Elenbaas
Sure. And what would you say the biggest challenges of living with mom have been, like you kind of mentioned, it's been a work of compassion. Maybe you could just whatever you feel comfortable with. But what's that been like?

Chelsea
Sure. It's been very quieting. For me, I didn't; I don't really feel like my mom, or even the family she married into, who I also live with here, really understand how to facilitate the growth of a person, I never really felt like raised by her and that like, normally kids feel kind of exalted and then gently like coaxed out of their shell, and then they develop a relationship with the person they are and the person their mom is. So a lot of this time has really been colored by my trying to stay out of her way. And also protect myself even though the consequences don't seem like they would be as serious or as heavy as when I was a child. And for example, I expressed interest in something or like anger for another. So I've been quiet here, but still trying to like get in touch with who I am just through my own relationship with myself and really avoiding her.

Adam Elenbaas
Do you feel like there's something about, it sounds like in avoiding hurts, because, you know, maybe she doesn't validate or approve or, like, really see you or something like that, or there's something about you that she thinks ought to be different or something.

Chelsea
Um, yeah, so I think of my mom as a traumatized child in that, like, she doesn't really she can respond as best she can to, for example, my, if I were to come to her with an issue, I'm having with work with a co-worker I just don't feel like she is very good at speaking to those issues from a place of like, leadership and with all the compassion and patience and like I don't know diligence that a like a mother should or my mother should. So it's not that she would like to fly off the handle if she found out I was having an issue at work with that example. All that, but I don't feel like there is a lot to gain as well. At the same time, I find it more beneficial to me to just hide my life from her as a whole. And let her see, you know, the meek sort of like quiet or child that she's familiar with.

Adam Elenbaas
Sure. So it's just out of curiosity, just does your mom ever like, does she? Is it like rage or anger, or is there anything like that that you know her character like? Great impatience or like character quirks like that have been hard to live with.

Chelsea
Sure she doesn't handle anger well when it comes to things going on in her life, so if you know the plumbing needs work, the first thing she really does, like, heighten her volume and really take out her stress on other people.

Adam Elenbaas
Have you been what it sounds like? You've been one of those people in some ways.

Chelsea
Sure, when I was a child, before, I fully got the fact that I couldn't always trust that mom was in a mood to hear what I had to say or something like that. I definitely was like, at the end of her, like yelling, the other end?

Adam Elenbaas
Is it just you too? Did you say you have siblings?

Chelsea
That's right; I have a younger brother who's 23. And all of my siblings are moved out of the house, including my older brother as well. And my older sister.

Adam Elenbaas
Okay, so it was just one; it was just your mom and the four of you. Correct? And this is just helping me get a picture. And it's helping me and, in turn, understand some of what I'm looking at in the chart. Did the other siblings in your family with your mom get better? Or more or different kinds of attention? (Yes.) So yeah. All of them or, or?

Chelsea
No, I have an older sister. She's the firstborn, and my mom only really hit the girls. And my brothers didn't get off like scot-free either. But their abuse was more like a little less physical, a little more verbal.

Adam Elenbaas
So there was, so she was physically abusive too. Yes. Okay, got it. That must have been really hard. It must have been just like, you know, well, it's easier if I hide or go in a shell or kind of, you know, don't give her a reason, so to speak. (Exactly). Yeah, that's really tough. It sounds like you said you moved out at 17. (Yes.) What? I guess what? I mean, obviously, aside from like, Hey, I don't really want to be here anymore. Was there something you were pursuing, a relationship or a destination, or a group of people? Or do you know what I mean? Like, was there a reason that you moved outside of just wanting to get out of the house?

Chelsea
Yeah, um, it certainly wasn't school; I was very overwhelmed by the prospect of college. So it wasn't for that, but it was for variety's sake. And finally, just being a part of a world that I was always told was bigger than the one that I came from. And my sister invited me to live with her the winter after I graduated. And that's what I did in Las Vegas.

Adam Elenbaas
That's your older sister. Yeah. And she was living in Las Vegas, where you grew up in New Jersey. Right? (Right.) Yeah. So that's a big change going, and you went there. And it sounded like from your letter; you got into like the service industry like you were serving tables or something like that. (Yeah.) And that was in Vegas. It was, was that a good happy place? Because you did mention that, like, you're not loving the people. And you know, like, you kind of mentioned that. I'm just wondering if that started there. If that's more recent since the year, maybe since the pandemic and moving home.

Chelsea
It wasn't an easy place to work. I worked at a very famous diner on the Las Vegas strip called the Pepper Mill. And it was run by very sort of harsh managers. And I found myself crying a lot after work because it was a big responsibility to wait tables compared to just making drinks as a barista. Stuff like that.

Adam Elenbaas
Right. And you were there up until the pandemic, is that what you said? Then you moved home?

Chelsea
No, actually, I moved around a few more times since Las Vegas. A year after living in Las Vegas. I moved to Seattle, Washington, and I stayed there for three months, also waiting tables until I was until I encountered a really life-changing event that would land me back in New Jersey.

Adam Elenbaas
Oh, that's interesting. Are you open to sharing what that event was or how it affected you?

Chelsea
Absolutely. Um, so I went on a trip in late May with my sister to Cuba after the borders reopened there. And it was exciting; my sister and I had the best relationship at that point. But that was also a sort of coming of age for me. I was 19. And I had translated for the entire group of girls who traveled with us in a place that largely did not speak English. I'm fluent in Spanish. And I danced for the first time in front of other people. And it was a real expression of who I was and all that I could handle. And at the end of it, though, my sister and I had a big fight about the career path that I would choose after waitressing. I let her know that I wanted to become an exotic dancer, like her, and make lots of money and express, like, feel into my sexuality and things like that. And she told me that I just didn't have enough to do and that I wasn't enough. I was too emotional or weak or something. And we got separated in that foreign country for about 12 hours, and I sort of lost my mind. She was fine the whole time, but I couldn't. I imagine the worst things happening to her, given that we left each other on like such bad terms.

Adam Elenbaas
Oh, Chelsea, can I pause you just for a second? Because I'm lost a little bit. I missed the part. And I'm sorry if it's just my brain isn't working very well. Today. Maybe. You were in another country?

Chelsea
We went to Cuba. Yeah.

Adam Elenbaas
Okay. No, no, I remember this now. Okay. Sorry. I don't know why I'm just having like little short-term memory lapses right now. So. Okay, so you were you went you were in Cuba? And were you just there just like hanging out? Yeah, it was the girl's trip. Okay, cool. So but then you had this fight over telling her, hey, I want to be a dancer, but she doesn't like it. You get separated, and you have this meltdown? Because you're not sure where she is? Or what could be going wrong? Exactly. Okay, keep going. Sorry to interrupt. Yeah,

Chelsea
Yeah, that's okay. Eventually, I found what it was like to like, be an adult, so to speak. You talk about initiation a lot in your videos. And I would call this mine into, like, what it's like to just encounter mortality or the mortality of someone very close to you. And so I'm on the plane ride home after this big fight, we, I sort of like, my therapist calls it a grandiose fantasy that I had, where I felt there was so much that was up to me and under my control. And I had this fantasy that, like, I knew my sister and I would be going in very different directions. And what that could mean was she could die, my mom could die, I was having a major anxiety attack on this plane, the plane ride home. And I couldn't keep it inside. It really expressed itself as, like, a tight, I thought it was psychosis at the moment, but I think I was experiencing something really like childlike actually, you know, fantastical, but certainly to a dark, extreme. And so, um, I left my life in Seattle on the prescription of my siblings and myself because I was afraid to put it together after that. I sought therapy in New Jersey while living at home with my oldest brother, Chris.

Adam Elenbaas
Got it. So you had like a major panic attack episode on the plane ride. Yeah. And then that kind of prompted you to move and go back to New Jersey and be around family and kind of try to put the pieces together. Yeah. That must have been, so that was the big event, that whole sequence. How do you feel now? And how have things changed since then?

Chelsea
I feel really familiar with the shadows now. And that's not to be cryptic or weird. It's just I feel mature about the anxiety that I feel, although it's not all. I haven't done it all together. I go to therapy once a week, and I have developed a really confident relationship with myself. That says that event like bad things happen, but it's best to be aware of them. And you know, to try and be a discerning person who is vigilant about, like, the scary things in life.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, bravo. That's awesome. That's great that that was a takeaway from that. That's huge. Sounds like it was an initiation, exactly like what you were just saying. (Thank you). Yeah. So in terms of today and getting, I just love getting to know people, so thank you for, you know, just opening up and telling me a bit about yourself and your story. I know there's so much more. But that gives me some really, really good sense of where things have been sort of lately and big narrative arcs and the story of your life so far. What could I do for you? What would be the most useful information I could give you right now?

Chelsea
I feel stagnated here. There's a lot to learn anywhere I go. I know that now. And, I do want a bigger, a different arc, right than the one that has me here still working for difficult people and from a home that doesn't exalt me. So my first question would be, what does the next chapter look like? And how do I sort of get there? As far as a career or even, you know, the geographic location in which I live?

Adam Elenbaas
So maybe when do I? When do I leave New Jersey? When does the career you know plotline? Take another turn?

Chelsea
Yeah.

Adam Elenbaas
Okay. Yeah, that's clear. I do have one follow-up question, which is, I just want to be clear about this one piece. Are you still I'm unclear? Are you still serving? Are you dancing now?

Chelsea 27:02
Oh, I never got into dancing. I'm still a waitress.

Adam Elenbaas
Okay. Is that still a desire? Or is it something that you decided to let go of?

Chelsea
I really let go of it. Yeah.

Adam Elenbaas
Okay. And is there anything percolating in, you know, this is what I'd like to do, or this is what I could see myself doing or have an interest in this or that, you know, outside of, of serving.

Chelsea
I would love the opportunity to learn under, for once in my goddamn life, like a leader, one that I respect and admire. So I would take any position under the right person. However, my past also included being a hostel employee; that's what I was doing. Right as the pandemic hit. And I noticed that that made me really happy as well. Working with travelers.

Adam Elenbaas
Oh, a hostel-like stay? I thought you meant hostile; you know, aggressive or something? Oh, no. Okay, so you worked at a hostel where that was in Jersey? That was in Philadelphia. Okay. So you could see yourself maybe working in around travel or something like that? Yeah. But, um, just to be clear, could you have any interest in living abroad? Or do you see yourself living in, you know, in the US? (I would love to live abroad.) Yeah, sounds like there's, yeah, just scatter. No, it just kind of felt that way when you said that. So, okay, so let's focus on that. First, I'm going to tell you a little bit about your birth chart to give you some background, and then I'm going to tell you where the planets are heading in when I think that some movement is likely to happen with regard to you know, location or careers. That sounds like a good start. (Yes, please.) Okay, great. So there are three places in a chart. Three planets, I should say, are just absolutely crucial to understanding the destiny that the soul is here to live out. And those are the sun in the Moon, obviously, and the rising sign, more specifically, the ruling planet of the rising signs, but for you, that's the Sun and Moon and Mars. Now, the sun and Moon are in the 12th house in Libra. A New Moon in Libra is really interesting. You're born right at the time that the new moon cycle is beginning now. Do you watch the Moon in the sky? Does that make sense when I say that? Yes. Okay, cool. So New Moon babies, in a sense, And you could say, from the perspective of the unfolding of the souls' experience over many lifetimes, would signify that there is like a seed being planted. It's karmically; there's something new that's going to be growing in the garden of life. And usually, that newness brings with it a lot of challenges, because you're, it's like, a new pattern or a new theme that's trying to be established, for example, in the movie, you everyone's seen a movie like this, there might be someone who is, you know, like, like a, what do they call it a shrinking violet. And they're shy. And actually, their destiny is to become, you know, maybe really much more outgoing or something. And you've seen this movie, you know, it's the story arc is about them sort of learning to be more confident or something. So in a sense, that's like a new moon because the New Moon is invisible. And over time, it shows itself, and it grows big and bright. When people are born under new Moons, it doesn't mean that they'll have to develop confidence because they're shy, but something is going to develop and come to be seen. And usually from a rather relatively obscure or sort of less visible place. And that arc of invisible to visible sort of shapes the lifetime. Now, what's interesting about your chart is that the sun and Moon are in Libra, which is the home sign of Venus, and Venus is in your first house. So one of the things that we would say that you're here to develop, and I believe this probably is partly why the fantasy of dancing took hold of you so strongly, and you also had this beautiful moment of dancing. For other people that made you feel really good about yourself, even if you didn't end up, you know, becoming an exotic dancer.

Because one thing this new Moon would be pointing to would be the development of Venusian qualities. Well, what is Venus, especially when Venus is in the first house, the house of the body, mind psychology appearance, it would mean that you're going to be developing from invisibility to visibility, the qualities of Venus, beauty, attraction, love, desire, neuroticism, art, you know, that could be dancing, or it could be just owning your wardrobe more or feeling sexier as you get older, feeling more empowered in your sexual nature or identity, whatever that may be. Or, for some person, the exact same signature could mean that you know, I've seen similar signatures, for example, in the charts of some of my clients who've maybe came out as gay in high school, it could be the kind of thing where some element of your psychology when it comes to sexuality, desire, love, beauty art, needs to or is in the process of developing and becoming brighter, more visible and sort of stronger.

So I would say that one of the major plotlines of your lifetime will have to do with progressively feeling more at home, and stronger and more comfortable with Venus in the way you identify and express yourself in the world. And that will probably have something to do with maybe what you do for a living or qualities that have to come out before the right doors open that really kind of match with the Empowered nature of who you are. So I think there's like something like a Venus homework project in this lifetime about incorporating, and Venus in Scorpio is edgy. You know, it's funny, I just today Moon moons in Scorpio, of course, as we're talking, by the way, and the Moon in Scorpio is also opposing Uranus as we're talking the planet of individuation, a planet linked to individuation, which means, you know, really taking those bold steps to become oneself. So I find it really interesting because I was thinking about this earlier today, and I've just been really, really moody since the Moon went into Scorpio. And I've heard this song, and it was, I don't know, I don't know how into music you are not, but it was called, I think it was called I See Red. And it was just so like evocative, and I was just I was driving, and I was listening to it, and I was like, oh my god, I'm just really feeling this Moon and Scorpios just got me, so you know, intense and you know and just like like that. That's Scorpio; you know Scorpio is not just like feel beautiful and pretty and don't be shy. It's, no, it's feel powerful, evocative, feel deep and intensely, it's really grabbing life by the neck. I know that sounds a little intense, but it's there's a real edge to it. I did a video some years ago called Scorpio. I think it was called Scorpio or Venus in Scorpio, but it's called the horror of true love. Something like that. And would I think you might really like that video anyway because it gets what I'm trying to say, which is that, you know, you're a Libra Full Moon, or new Moon, excuse me, with the dispositor of Venus in Scorpio in your first house. So it's eruptive, it's volcanic, it's there's something that needs to be released from within. And it's, it's Venus. But it's, it's Venus with some blood on her fangs, you know what I mean? So and that doesn't have to be a literal thing where you become a jerk or egotistical or anything, but I think there's, it's honoring the primordial power of Venus, in your body, in your psyche, and so forth. So now, it's complicated by the fact that this new Moon was happening in your 12th house. And the 12th house is a very complicated place. Ancient astrologers called it the evil daimon. That was the name they gave to it. So there's a number of ways that this can be read.

First, the new Moon in that house that wants to sprout and become visible can struggle to do so because of basically oppressive forces. None of those forces are karmic. They're part of your fate. They're beautiful in the way that they actually are serving your unfolding, but they're also oppressive. And the oppressive nature of those forces is also amplified in your chart by the opposition that the new Moon has to Saturn, a fall in Saturn in the sixth house in Aries, a place of conflict and illness and aggression, and a place of servitude and slavery. When I look at your chart, and I see that the New Moon is in this house with Venus in the first, I just think I painted a portrait for you of what's trying to become visible from the New Moon seed. But in the 12th house and opposite Saturn, there are afflictions; there's a mother who makes you maybe, at times, feel like you have to shrink or hide yourself. There's an environment that you grow up in, that's a feeling of hostility awaiting you should you try to express yourself or try to be heard; there's violence, there's abuse. There's also probably, from that, a lot of fear, and anxiety, and even paranoia that can live in the space of the psyche, who's trying to just be itself. And when you had this really big moment, I'm just kind of spitballing here. But when you had this really big breakthrough moment around dancing, you know, and then you all of a sudden you met this resistance from your sibling, I can imagine that would have been deeply triggering. Because here you are starting to feel free. And then there's someone again from the family saying, no, no, no, that's not who you are, you ought not to be this or that or whatever. And then there's this, this sudden traumatic event where you lose each other for some hours and so forth. And so to me, I the story that you're telling, I can see in the chart.

And I suspect that one challenge with your story has to do with rising up again and again. And, you know, saying to myself, No, I'm, I'm I am strong, I'm beautiful, I'm confident, I'm edgy. There's that kind of little bit of a wild Venus that needs to come out. And there may be many phases in life or different jobs or different places you live where, you know, it's kind of like, trying on different versions of that. That Venus, you know, and figuring out what it means to live into that. And I would give yourself just be very, very patient with yourself in getting there and knowing that along the way, there might be shitty bosses. There might be, you know, family members that oppress or environments that make you feel like you have to shrink away and hide, or it's the courage over and over. It's the courage to persist in the path of individuation and of allowing Venus to be confident and strong, and bold that I think will serve you most.

One of the themes of Saturn in Aries, to me, is survival. Because Saturn in Aries is like, especially in the sixth house, is a theme of like hardship and persecution. And, when I think of Saturn and Aries in the sixth, honestly, I think of the ancient all over the globe, the reality of people being enslaved by other people. And I think of the perseverance of spirit that's needed to live through that somehow, and persist and, and retain one sense of courage and dignity, even though other people may be oppressive. So I and I think that the strength of Saturn and Aries is kind of like a stubborn determinist like, I'm gonna just be determined to keep, you know, you might, you could knock me down, but I'll keep getting up kind of attitude. And I sit, I suspect that if you keep that with you throughout your life that you will prevail. Now, one of the other things that I think, and then I'm gonna give you some timelines here, so when you were born, there was; your ascendant ruler as Mars and Sagittarius in the second house, conjoined with Pluto.

Adam Elenbaas
As someone who also has Mars in the second house, and you know, worked with lots of clients at that placement over time, but to speak of it being paired with Pluto, one of the major themes that I see time and time again, is the need for financial and material independence. So this is a Mars with Pluto that, you know, is, well, let's put it this way, you could face the feeling of like your individuation is partly Venusian, but it's also partly about being financially sovereign. Being a strong earner and developing some degree even of wealth, and probably through determination, courage, perseverance, a healthy risk-taking, I say healthy meaning, you know, nothing that could harm you. But the kinds of risks that Mars and Pluto need to take along the way to financial liberation. Our you know, it requires real grit like Mars Pluto is like a warrior. And it's a very similar signature right to Saturn in Aries in the sixth house to Saturn in Aries, in the six houses in Mars's sign. So it's disposed of by Mars with Pluto in the second just kind of, like, be financially strong. You know, and that's a part of it, too, is this, this gaining of financial self-sufficiency, along with that, a home of your own? I picture for you in this chart having your own house or your own condo. I think that's going to happen for you someday. I don't think it's too far away. I have some ideas about when that might happen. But I think that, you know, it's like, that new Moon in the 12th is like, I've got to, I have to become the, you know, the beautiful being that I am; has a little bit of an edge to it with Venus in Scorpio, right? But it's also a very intelligent balance. Poise sensitive, very Libra, you know, Libras are very sensitive, little dark edge with Venus. Okay, so that's what you're trying to become; along with Mars and Pluto in the second, I will rise up and become financially strong. And then what do you see with the ruler of that second house Jupiter, in the fourth house of home and property? I'll have my own home. You know, it doesn't mean you have to have kids or anything. But I think that there is something about having your own home, and your own voice and your own identity, and your own financial self-sufficiency. And working toward those things with determination, working continually over getting back up if you get knocked down, especially by oppressive sort of people or forces. That's what's going to make you a fantastically interesting and fun and probably very encouraging person to be around for other people as you keep aging and growing. So those are some of my takes on your chart, just kind of throwing some stuff out there and hope that they resonate for you.

Chelsea
I wish I had the video on because you would get to see what I look like, fully in love with what you're saying; it's so validating.

Adam Elenbaas
Good, good. I'm so glad to hear that. Yeah, I will say that the challenge in all of this is going to be the main you have to maintain belief in yourself and don't overcompensate; what I mean by that is when you face an oppressive force, just keep being you in the strongest firmest, but least reactive way possible by that. I mean, you know, sometimes when we face oppressive forces, we will more deeply radicalize our identity as a response; you can't change me, you can't tell me who I am. all Do you know, I'm going to put on I'm going to start walking on stilts to show you, you know what I mean. So like, the more one of the temptations that I could see happening would be like, when, when you're trying to do something that feels right to you, and you get met with resistance, that you may double down on your sense of agency, dignity, sovereignty, by, you know, almost like redefining yourself in more and more radical ways. And I think that's something to be careful about because you don't want to just get into a never-ending loop of identity experimentation. To the point where you can't settle into a good, at least a good feeling or sense of yourself. Like you travel all you want to experiment all you want. But, you know, it's I think there's something to be said also about settling in deeply settling into who you are. Does that help?

Chelsea
Yeah, I, you know, I never considered the prospect that I could double down on, like, some extra edgy versions of myself, just to sort of provoke others further, or, you know, establish my annoyance with them. But it's, it's helpful to, to have that clue for the future.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, I mean, for example, you have some transits coming up, like Uranus, opposite Venus, as someone who's going through that right now. Um, you know, it's like, whenever someone tells me recently, I'm not always like this, but when someone's like, you can't do this, I just decide to do something even worse. You know what I mean. And I think that that kind of, like, oppositional defiance, I've heard that phrase tossed around, like, clinically, for kids, I mean, it really loosely, I think that you, you, there are times where it's appropriate to defy resist, and maybe further individuate. As a result, there's also a time to be really careful that it doesn't just become a pathology of pain, you know, what I mean? Like, it's the pain drives the need to, like, constantly recreate myself because then it's going to be harder to land on a career or a craft, or several things you do that can really make you money, or make you feel really good about yourself because the identity won't be stable enough to sort of carry some of the legacy that I think you're really trying to build for yourself.

Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I see myself as somebody who can adapt a lot and who finds joy in doing so often. So perhaps, what could be necessary at some point is to stay sometimes and continue with one path. One job, perhaps?

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, You're 24, right? So I think there's a lot of time to still explore. I think that's a natural part of our 20s archetypal Lee all the way up till the Saturn Return around 29 or 30, is to do that exploring, and I think we, you know, we need to get familiar with ourselves. And there are lots of things that we just can't know. And the initiation of phase of your life, I think, has a few more really good twists and turns to come. And so I don't want to be discouraging of that. But I think it's just sort of a reminder that, you know when it comes to the new Moon and the 12th, The other thing is, you don't want the one of the I don't know; One of the difficult delineations associated with the 12th house is perpetual wandering. And then when we have that linked to Venus in the first house of identity, that's where I'm, that's where I'm kind of coming from. It's like I don't; I don't want you to feel like you never have a home inside yourself. Because that's the thing that, and that's the thing you mentioned in your childhood, too, was like, there wasn't you didn't get validated, encouraged brought out gently all of those things you said. And so, in some ways, that really challenging duty is it's left for you to do Yeah. Right. Like, that's insane, right? So it's insane. You're not alone; you have allies, and there are always guides and helpers along the way. The things you love are especially important guides and allies because the things that we love raise us in many ways.

So you know, stay close to what you love, and what you love will love you. And I think that's part of how all of us are raised outside of what our parents can't do for us because all of our parents have deficiencies, some far worse than others. But, you know, that's how I've come to understand the things that I've loved in my adult life have raised me in many of the ways my parents never could. So I just think about that. But if that's helpful. Well, Chelsea, I have some thoughts about timing in terms of, like, okay, when could we see some interesting twists and turns with, you know, regard to career or maybe moving or something like that? Does that sound good? (Yes, please). Okay, cool. So I'm going to put up the buy wheel. All right. Tell me if you can see it on the screen. It should be a double wheel that now. (Yeah.) Okay, great. Now I'm going to plug in Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto is already in. Now, to me, the most interesting change, like kind of coming up soon, is depicted right here. Here's Pluto entering your fourth house. That's the place of home, family, roots environment. It's entering that house in late March of 2023. It's going to be there until June. If I remember correctly, let me just go forward. So yeah, it's into June. That ingress, I think, could represent a change of location. Because Pluto usually makes a splash of really affecting the topics of the house it moves into. So here it's, moving into the house of home and family, between March and June of 2023. Could we see a change of location or some shake-up around the roots, I think that's probably the most imminent possibility for a move.

But Pluto in that house is going to be doing some work for a while. And but one of the transits that I think could be really revolutionary for you is going to be Pluto's transit of Uranus, which is in March of 2026. That could be a really substantive change of routes, to the point where I wonder if you're even living abroad. This is why I asked this earlier when I was looking at your transits. Given what you had mentioned in your letter, I thought, well, isn't it interesting that at the same time, you'll have exalted Jupiter in the ninth house of foreign countries, while at the same time Pluto hits Uranus in the house of home and living environment, and Uranus really likes to shake things up. So, could this be a time of at least traveling abroad for an extended period of time? I think that there might be a real, really meaningful segue that takes you abroad somehow and that contributes to this path of self-discovery. It's interesting to me that this starts happening at the outset of your Saturn Return as you're nearing 30 years of age. I think that would make sense. It's a perfect time, Saturn will oppose your Sun and Moon, and you will have grit to grind up against existentially in a moment that looks like you could be really sorting out who you are and working through another wave of that feeling of opposition to who you are either within or without and deciding you know, well, I'm going to relocate, or I'm going to travel, or while traveling, you're having some pretty profound insights about where you want to go with your life. So to me, this is just an absolutely critical phase, right around your Saturn Return, put it 28 to 30 years old.

Now, a little bit more near term, you had asked about relationships. First of all, do you do date men, women? Anyone? (Anyone?) Okay, so in terms of, like, a partnership coming in, are you interested in a committed partnership or marriage and all that stuff? Or is it kind of looser than that at this point?

Chelsea
I'm open to however deep the commitment should go.

Adam Elenbaas
Right? I asked because some people are like, Look, I'm not into marriage, I'm never gonna get married, or I'm polyamorous, or just never know. So here's Uranus opposing Venus by next summer. So, this is a really interesting moment because typically, Uranus Venus moments coincide with well for you; it would be further individuation but along sexual, relational lines. So identity, sexuality, and relationship, the need for independence and freedom, but also the need for experimentation and exploration of love and commitment. Those themes are really peaking next summer. At the same time, Venus, by the way, will be retrograde. Venus will be retrograde for a bit in Leo, in your 10th house of career, so I wonder if next summer, it's also, you know, questions about love and relationships kind of coinciding with some meaningful changes in the workplace. So I think that you know, some of these changes around work. You know, there are a number of different timelines, and I see some stuff in the spring of 23. Maybe you're changing locations, probably changing jobs. In the summer of 2023. There's a lot of relational stuff on the table that seems to also coincide with some things that work. So yeah, in terms of just the big picture, it looks to me like now love is definitely in the cards, probably in the next year. It's hard to say how substantive it would be with Uranus because Uranus often comes and helps us grow, but through things that are very unexpected, and like they have an impact on us, but they're, you know, Uranus is not necessarily the planet of commitment, you know what I mean? It's, it's more like a, you know, a flash mob at the mall that does a dance or something. You know, a little bit more like that. So we'll see what that brings. But yeah, next August looks like it's very sparky, around love, and then a little bit in the workplace too. Okay, well, those are just a few transits that, you know, I thought were worth mentioning. Do you have any questions about that or anything else I could look at to maybe fine-tune or say something different?

Chelsea
Oh, I'm just on those subjects or anything? Anything? Okay. Well, if I could mention that, most recently, in my life, the biggest thing that's going on is this question about God. And I'd written to you a couple of times about with questions that I'd had on some of your Bhakti videos. And it's really been a heart-opening experience just this week to be on Part Eight already have your bhakti Upanishad. And I just want to see if anything is if that's indicated at all on my chart and if you know, well, what steps I might take to further that relationship or further discover my place as a part of that.

Adam Elenbaas
Let's see if we can turn our videos back on here since we're just about out of time. Maybe I can at least see your face a little bit when we talk about God. Okay, maybe the video connection will be better now. I don't know. Okay, there, you are cool. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's a great question. Um, now this is just me. I don't particularly think that any spiritual path is determined by the stars. I believe the stars may mirror a time at which we become more interested or something like that, or our commitment grows or deepens. But I truly believe that the choice to start taking transcendental activities into our lives, so to speak, is totally free will, a combination of grace and free will. And it happens, despite whatever the birth chart says, and in fact, as soon as one takes the spiritual life, I feel that the nature of what transits have to say or can do starts to change. In bhakti philosophy, when a person starts on the path of yoga, it is said that the nature of their karma changes because, essentially, it goes from mechanistic laws of the universe to a personal connection to the intelligence behind the mechanics. And that means that your karma changes; it changes at least and how you experience it. So, first of all, I just think that if you're taking an interest in it at all, from the bhakti philosophy standpoint, that probably means that you have samskara in your soul and already have a spiritual nature, which means this is not your first rodeo thinking about or taking up spiritual thoughts or activities. And that's a really good sign. First of all, I'll just say like, you know, you're, sometimes people are interested in this stuff. And what comes next? And I'm kind of like; the first thing is to recognize that you're already doing what comes next. Just by being interested in it, you're already doing bhakti; bhakti is just a way of saying that a soul has started to show devotion to spiritual life. And it's just about continuing that. Take an interest in spiritual things, take in spiritual topics, ask spiritual questions, and find many different teachers who keep leaving the breadcrumb trails and helping you not just one but many; experiment with different traditions that give you a sense of happiness. And in that way, you're doing bhakti. You know, that's what bhakti is. It's just devotion.

So that's my first thing in terms of your birth chart. You know, again, I don't think there's one chart, I've seen a lot of different people's charts who are very spiritual, and not one of them has some sign of being more spiritual or something, you know. So I see a lot of people who have charts you'd almost think this doesn't look like it has a lot of interest in spiritual subjects. And it's, you know, very interested in them. So I don't really look to the chart for that. But if I were going to pick a time, or like a period in which I think something really spiritual could develop, like a, like a rapid period of growth around your spiritual interests, it would be when Jupiter enters cancer in your ninth house, which is a few years away. I mentioned it already. So it comes in right about the summer of 2025. And it's going to last about a year into 2026. If I'm not mistaken, let me just make sure, yeah. So yeah, 2025 to six. It's gonna go all the way and tell. What about June or July of 2026. So 25 to 26. Now, that's the period of time where I mentioned you might be going abroad too, so going abroad, spiritual topics. But in the meantime, my best advice if it's something that you're like, hey, I want to go deeper with this. Two of my mentors there are a number of mentors, Hari kirtana, Loka, and Vidarbha, who have classes on bhakti that they teach, and you may or may not resonate with them. But it's worth looking into if you want to learn more about bhakti. In particular, I go to Quaker meetings. I don't know if you've ever been to one, but man, they're politically progressive. If you're into that, they don't push that on you, though. And doesn't really matter what you believe. You just go and sit down for an hour of quietness. And in the quiet, sometimes people are led to share insights about their relationship with God that are really sweet. And there's no central authority. There's no scripture. There's a respect for scriptures and stuff like that, but it's very open. And so I go there as well. Mantra meditation every day, you know, those kinds of things, to me, are really helpful. So take up one of them. And, you know, for me, I just claim to my mantra meditation, it's every single day. It's like my lifeline. So if you have something like that, even if it's just 10 minutes of silent meditation or something, or just taking a walk or writing in a journal and just privilege your inner life, because that's; Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita says that when we privilege our inner life that the universe illuminates us from within, and gives us all the knowledge and information we need about what to do and how to make choices and kind of navigate the star chart, you know.

Chelsea
Or it is I have; I would journal as one of those questions that you mentioned. And I do, and I have. And it's very interesting to me that there is no actual indication of, like, spiritual path, a part of the charts. I never knew that.

Adam Elenbaas
Well, at least in my opinion, I think it's it. It might be a rather fruitless endeavor to try to look for that in the chart. Although in India, there are. Of course, there are traditions that will say that you can see how evolved the soul is and stuff like that. And I certainly don't have the ability, though. So. Yeah. But anyway, Chelsea, thanks for being here today. Hope that we got some good work done for you and gave you some good things to take away.

Chelsea
This was very special. Thank you.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, you bet. I'm so glad you could be here. And it's good to see your smile. I really like your smile.

Chelsea
I wish you could have seen me. I was dancing.

Adam
Well, keep dancing. I hope that you keep dancing. You never stop. Thank you. Yeah. Well, have a great rest of your day. We're going to continue on with class. I'll send you the recording afterward. And if you listen back and have any questions, let me know if there's anything I can ever do for you; just reach out.

Chelsea
Thank you (Acyuta).

Adam Elenbaas
Okay, take it easy, Chelsea.