The Astrology of Sports: Mars in Direct Motion Again

Hey everyone, this is Adam Elenbaas from Nightlight Astrology, and today I am joined by my friends Kip and Spencer to talk once more about the astrology of sports; we are going to be looking back at the Mars Retrograde and some of the final events and themes that seem to have constellated as Mars was coming down the homestretch and turning direct in the sign of Gemini, and we'll be visiting other predictions and observations related to the NFL and the sporting world in general.

One of the purposes of this podcast series has been to create content that is also designed to maybe be more interesting or attractive to men. The majority of people who take in astrology content are women. And so we're trying to designate some topics that hopefully there's, you know, we know there's plenty of women who like sports too, but obviously, just trying to build some bridges so that men might take more of an interest in archetypal astrology, psychology, and the connection between the symbols of astrology and the world of sports and athletics, something that all three of us are also very passionate about in general.

So that's our agenda today. We're going to kind of do a Mars Retrograde. You know, in hindsight, as it's just turned, Direct, actually turning direct today as we're recording this, but you'll be seeing it after the fact, so, and we'll keep doing this once a month, we've been having fun with it getting a lot of good feedback from you guys. So we hope that you'll enjoy this new episode.

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Spencer
Hey, friends.

Adam Elenbaas
Good to see you guys. Again, you are ready to look back on a lot of really; as Mars Retrograde came down the homestretch and slowed down and turned direct, there were a lot of very dynamic events in the sports world that seemed to perfectly grasp the Mars Retrograde symbolism that we have to talk about today. And I think also just catching up on predictions for the NFL playoffs as we're coming up on them and stuff like that. So yeah, I'm excited to get into it. I'm going to hand it over to you guys because you guys have a lot of really good talking points for us today. So, if either one of you guys wants to jump in, just go for it.

Kip
You know, I think I'm gonna drop the bomb first. Because you and I discussed this beforehand, if it was even something we wanted to bring up, and I pulled up this guy. I'm not sure if everyone's familiar with him is a guy named Andrew Tate, who I was just kind of cursorily familiar with. I wasn't. I don't know it. He was like cultural flotsam, but I just was; he was on the periphery of my understanding. And then he added to this spat with Greta Thunberg. And the next thing I know, he was arrested. And it turns out the guy's a complete and total sleazebag. But the date of his arrest, which I believe is December 12, is pretty fascinating.

Adam Elenbaas
So just for a little background, people are wondering about his name. What's his name again? Andrew Tate, and he's like a, I would call him, the quintessential toxic male influencer, and he was a former kickboxer. And I just personally don't like his content or his message. I find it misogynistic and terrible. So, I know some people, like there's a whole world of people out there who really like him. But either way, I think probably most people who watch this channel, if you don't know who he is, probably find him offensive. And he's the kind of person where you'll see videos about him, you know, trying to talk about how to exert dominance over women and how to be the top Alpha Dog and all of this stuff former kickboxer, and then he was arrested and Kip, you can take it from here.

Kip
So we don't have an exact time for this gentleman. I use noon as I always do. But a couple of things I find really interesting about this. So, first of all, safe to say this guy has a Sag Moon Sag sun. Sun and Saturn are really close to each other. So this Mars Retrograde was hitting, you know, to two but two malefics, a transit malefic hitting a natal malefic but also hitting both seglights, and he was arrested it exactly as that Mars Retrograde that heated up dividing Mars; it's really been driving a lot of culture and a lot of individuals lives over the last couple of months, right on his natal Sun, so kind of ignore that Moon, we don't know exactly where that would be, but it's fairly safe to say that he's either a new moon or a very balsamic Moon native. And obviously, having Mars stationed opposite your Sun for an extended period of time is an uncomfortable period of your life, but that's really, that's only going to happen once.

So, in general, this is just a period where if this gentleman came to me for counseling, I would tell them to look out ahead of time; this is going to hurt; this is something that's going to really affect you, the thing that as someone who wouldn't mind him really being in some hot water just because I don't necessarily a vibe with them but B some of the allegations are pretty disgusting. And really of a sexual nature, and sometimes when you see negative sexual acts, Mars can be involved here. And you see that transiting his Natal, Saturn, or you see someone being held to account. So I think that this is really it's painful for the guy and really matches up with his activity. The other thing that I think is really fascinating about this, I'll let you guys riff, is I've noticed this in a couple of places where folks have had transiting Jupiter aligned in a benefic way in this case, Andrew Tate has Jupiter, and Pisces, in his nativity, and so it's almost like he had bonification for his whole chart. It was sort of riding on good luck for a while, almost the moment that Jupiter moved over; boom, you know, fate took over, and he didn't have that lucky horseshoe up behind anymore. So what do you guys see when you look at this?

Spencer
I agree that he's a piece of human garbage and basically was accused of sex trafficking young women, and he basically went on Twitter or whatnot to try to brag about his vehicles or something like that like something like Oh, look at all these vehicles I have and like, in responding in hatred towards credit, credit Thunberg, is that how you say her name? Is it Thunberg? Not sure. Yeah. Just to respond to her about a post he made about climate change. And they found him where he was hiding in a European country based on a pizza box that he was in part of his picture that he shared, so that was that to me is pretty that's like the ultimate hubris right like you know, kind of like Oh, I'm gonna try to you know, be a total a-hole online and Twitter and like by saying something, the repercussions can pretty strongly for him as you were pointing out with Saturn.

Kip
I forgot about that part that it was like his reply to her tweet.

Spencer
First of all, she owned him by being like, you know, like, Yes, send me an email like something like Greta Thun Berg, or at small dick energy.com or something. Like something like a penis joke like that. She, I don't know. She had a really good snappy comeback for his, like, really? Audacious disgusting boasting.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, well, I mean, looking at this chart, obviously, you know, it's a new chart, so we don't know the exact alignment but Mars opposite your son and being arrested. You know, for crimes. That seems to fit pretty, pretty well. You know, and I think it's, yeah, it's interesting to see like one of the things that's likely to happen is, you know, between now and March, you've got Saturn about to go over his Natal, Mars, and Pisces. That strikes me as having the potential for some kind of imprisonment.

So yeah, it wouldn't be surprising to me if some further major development were to come about in his story in March later in March as Saturn approaches his natal Mars, and then maybe ongoing as it squares, his Sun doesn't know exactly where his Moon is, but yeah, and it also wouldn't surprise me if the long term fate of this in you know this person and their relationship to potential sexual crimes, or continuation of such patterns if they like let's say, this person gets out of this somehow. Well, he's got Pluto coming in to square his Natal, Venus, and Pluto.

And that doesn't look particularly promising for someone who has this potential. Like dark, toxic patterns around, you know, women sex sexual crimes? I don't know. I don't know what the allegations are; don't I just know he was arrested? And I'm sure I can only imagine so. But regardless of what he did or what the allegations are, you go, gosh, look at where Pluto is heading in the next four or five years here, and it doesn't look like it necessarily gets easier. But anyway, those are just some reflections. What's interesting to me is there's a parallel story in the world of Mixed Martial Arts, which is the Dana White story. So yeah, he's the what? Is he the owner or CEO of UFC? Is that what he is?

Kip
He's not the owner. I think he's the CEO. He's kind of the face like the executive face of the franchise with the organization.

Adam Elenbaas
President of Ultimate Fighting Championship is what I just Googled. Okay. Yeah. So he serves as the president. Yeah, it's, it's a very lucrative business; he was just, again, another very Mars Retrograde-like moment; there was, and I am not on purpose, it just popped up in my, like, YouTube shorts feed, which I am exposed to all sorts of crazy things. I mean, it's just like whatever comes up in that feed. Partially is probably because of some of the things I end up watching because I can't take my eyes off certain, just like you shouldn't watch it but I can't take my eyes off it.

But it popped up in my feed where it was like him and his wife slapping each other at a party or something. But more dramatically, I think it is him assaulting his wife. But you can see in the video they get into like a third like, they're like punching each other on a New Year's Eve party. And he's obviously, you know, he's a lot goes without saying that it's not okay to hit people either way, but like, you know, spousal abuse is the headline in his life right now as a result of getting into this altercation with his wife at a party caught on camera. And then and then this like, very sort of, I don't know what you'd call it if it was an apology or not that he made but basically, you know, sort of balking at the idea of having to suffer any kind of public ramifications with his role in the UFC company. So that was all I thought that was all very Mars, slowing down to station kind of ordeal as well.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, I mean, so that's, that's interesting because in that case, you have a scandal and controversy around another figure in the world of fighting. So, you know, that seemed to pop up.

Kip
Very Mars Retrograde topic generally. Yeah,

Adam Elenbaas
I mean, there were a couple of other things that happened that I thought were fascinating. I'll just mention a few. You know, again, I do not like to labor any of these, but there's a very famous fitness influencer on YouTube whose name is the Liver King. He exalts the virtues of manly primal living. He has like all these tenants, including eating a lot of raw animal parts like liver, you know, and stuff like that. Yeah. And raw. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, he'll just it's like something out of like Braveheart or something. You know, just blood on the face, eating testicles, like all sorts of stuff. Like he'll, it'll just be like, it's crazy. And I don't know all the tenants of his system or whatever. But the thing that happened during Mars Retrograde was that he was outed for being on steroids while denying it publicly over and over and over again because he's selling a natural way of life that will make you look as ripped as he is if you just follow these tenets.

When it came out, all the emails were leaked of his regimen of steroids that he's taking. I thought that was a fascinating development. And, of course, there's a channel called more plates, more dates. And it's a famous fitness influencer, which basically shows you try to take you behind the scenes and shows you what's going on when Thor, you know, I forget the guy who plays Thor.

Spencer
Chris Hemsworth?

Adam Elenbaas
The whole channel is basically about trying to explain to people that a lot of what you're seeing is through the use of PEDs. And so it's like, okay, these Hollywood guys who do the Marvel movies, he'll be like, you know, look at the bone structure of his nose. That's because he's taking growth hormone and this and that, and so it's a channel that's dedicated to saying, don't think that this is all-natural, you know, and like, don't set your ideal up here when a lot of this is performance-enhancing drugs. And he goes through the science of all of it. It's like, so he was on Joe Rogan during Mars Retrograde, talking about the regiment of things that this influencer that liver King was using. And I mean, it was impressive, like how much he was using. And, you know, so anyway, I thought that was another really interesting Mars Retrograde development that you had a very famous fitness influencer being outed for being on steroids.

Kip
Almost a chance to rethink what it means to be actually manly. I know that over the last maybe a couple of years, this whole notion of a manosphere has come up. And it's almost like with this period of time, well, Mars is going backward. It's the curtain lifted up a little bit, and people had a chance to really think about it. You brought up Damar Hamlin, which I think is a really good example of this too. Do you have a chart for that?

Spencer
Yeah, I have a chart. We can bring that up.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, that was huge; I think that was like, I mean, we shouldn't bury the lede. Right, that probably was one of the defining Mars Retrograde moments that we've had so far. Well, it's done now, but the retrograde period is over now but yeah, go ahead. And Spencer, let me put up the chart for you. Hold on. Yeah, so we've got to look for tell us exactly what happened first, just for people who don't know.

Spencer
So on. Let's see what the date was here. On January 2, there was a Monday night football game between the Buffalo Bills and the Cincinnati Bengals. Damar Hamlin, who was a defensive back, was trying to come up to make a tackle on wide receiver T Higgins of the bangles. And T Higgins kind of lowered his shoulder and just like kind of battering ram to him right and right in the chest like right in a specific place potentially, with actually stopped his heart and he kind of stood up afterward fell backward, you know, was completely passed out and had to be resuscitated on the field. While everyone looked on in horror. They actually postponed the game; they did not complete the game. And then they ended up canceling the game completely afterward.

And, you know, he was recovering in the hospital. He seems like he's doing okay. He, there was some silver linings that came out of it, too. I guess. He had like a toy charity for children where he was raising money for children's Christmas presents. And his goal was $2,500. And he ended up raising about $9 million after his injury.

So I thought that was actually a really interesting part of it. But the main thing that I saw in the chart was that Mars Retrograde was opposing his natal Pluto exactly at the moment of the injury. And he also was having he had Mercury retrograde and was squaring his natal Mercury and Saturn in Aries from Cancer, or I'm sorry, from Capricorn. And he also was going through a Mars Sun square. So the Sun, the Transiting Sun, was squaring his natal Mars in Aries. So he had an airy stellium, which was disposed by this retrograde Mars in Gemini, and then the opposition with Pluto, so just really fascinating astrology here.

Kip
This is just as far as mixed omens go; this is just up the bag you're looking for; you can teach this chart because then he also has transiting Jupiter going over his entering the house of his stellium and on top of the Sun.

Spencer
I mean, that feels like the fundraiser on some level. Doesn't it like that? He got really lucky that number one, he didn't die, and number two like he was trying to create some kind of expansive Jupiterian charity, and it ended up blowing up into this enormous huge thing. So yeah, really, you're right; very much mixed signals there.

Adam Elenbaas
I think one piece of that story that's really interesting is that, you know, obviously, you know, being he basically died and then was resuscitated on the field. You know, like that's, I think, from the standpoint of professional sports. Remember the beginning of this series. When we first started, we were talking about freak accidents, injuries, and the real recurring concussions that were happening in the NFL this season, as a bunch of those that stood out. And, you know, I remember, I don't know what it was maybe like last year or something. I was talking with a friend we were watching a football game together, and I go; it just feels like at some point we're going to see someone never be able to walk again, or we're going to see someone die. Like in our lifetime, there's going to be something that we see on a sports field that surpasses anything we've seen before.

And it, I don't know, it just felt like, you know, we see, we see a lot of things, you know, but the game is getting faster, the I don't know, just feels like there's a there's like a threshold we're going to reach where something about what we see will, it will humanize it a little bit more because it's in the realm of, you know, you can bet by the minute throughout games on every possible statline its fantasy football, it's so it's such a fantasy realm for so many people. And I don't have a problem with that in terms of, you know, an archetypal fantasy realm competition, sports games; I think they're really important for the human spirit. And so I'm not opposed to that. But there is a human side to all of this. And I find it interesting that this cycle began with Mars square to Neptune. And something it's important to recognize is that the things that we love, especially sports, are chronic fantasy worlds that we go into there. They have imaginal potency. And one of the things that struck me as important about this was the way it was like we all sort of collectively had this. I mean, I don't want to be dramatic, but I think we collectively had a heart shock when it came to, like, Oh, this is human.

And I remember what the thing that really stood out to me afterward was listening to several of the different podcasts that I listened to, and how careful the announcers were to make sure that they, I mean, even if, even if it was just not wanting to get in trouble, that they sounded human, it was like, we have to be human right now, this can't be about the game, it can't be about the stats, it can't be about injury timelines and updates. Everyone was very conscious of trying to make sure that the audience understood that they were treating this person like a human. And I thought that was an admirable thing.

You know, like, overall, I really appreciated that. I also thought that it was interesting to see, okay, in my opinion, usually the sports world, I mean, just in general, it's not like the news or other media outlets, where you have to be really conscientious of, of different discourses that are going on the language that's used, how you speak, it's very important for not only for ratings but so that, you know, you represent the values of your station or your company or whatever. What I found interesting was watching what felt like a very heightened level of sensitivity that I'm used to seeing in other media worlds come into the sports world for that week; everyone was being very measured and cautious in the way that they spoke.

And I just found that to be a very interesting thing where it was like sports journalists who often are paid to be, you know, talking and debating like you think of like Stephen A Smith and all these personalities that are there to speak fast and have hot takes. And it was just interesting to see everyone making these concentrated efforts to speak from the heart, even if they couldn't quite do it. Or even if it was a little bit of a show. I just found that part of it to be really fascinating from a viewership standpoint; it was like this weird, it felt a little bit like, you know, the way that you saw news anchors talking about life when COVID first hit, you know like everyone just was like being kind of human. And I found that sort of interesting and refreshing.

Kip
I agree. And I think this harkens back to that idea of Mars, giving it Mars Retrograde, giving us a chance to rethink what it means to be manly. And in this manly space of sports talk and sports hot takes. You know this is a time to be human and not worry about, you know, who's dangling the lowest or the heaviest. I thought I thought that in general. Sports media really did a good job. And I, you know, thumbs up for me and the people who didn't; I'm gonna shout out to Skip Bayless here, who is always a jerk but, you know, permanently, in my opinion, stained himself by bringing up the idea that this game needs to get finished right away. You know, it was this immediate hot take on Twitter, and I really got roasted for it. As an interesting aside, Skip Bayless is a famous chef Rick Bayless is a strange brother. They are brothers and grew up together, which is one of the weirdest things I've ever heard.

Spencer
Skip Bayless is also a Sagittarius son. So he's having he's, you know, in opposition to that Mars Retrograde, he's not in alignment with the moment, I mean, so that makes perfect sense. And I think there's a number of injuries in the NFL, in particular this year, that really caused a lot of reevaluation of what what the sport should be, what it means to play football, like, we've seen the Pro Bowl turn, change over to flag football this year for the first time. So that's an interesting shift. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to see NFL football eventually migrate to flag football. I know that that sounds extreme. And I'm not advocating for that. But I could see it happening. You know, and that this, like revisioning of masculinity, is really interesting, because I've been reading this book that I really highly recommend. It's called The Flowering Wand by Sophie Strand. And it's about rewilding masculinity and thinking of it as a fungus or a mushroom that will arise from a collective mycelium. So to me, what that means is that she's talking about myths that arise from different cultures.

But it's really talking about staying connected as a community rather than as individuals. And that's what I think the Damar Hamlin experience, like, brought us with the NFL is how do we connect as a community versus, you know, being these individual-like islands and things of that nature? Because I think that's something that, you know, in sports, but in life that men struggle with, sometimes it's feeling like isolated, feeling like that there's competition with one another. And that book, in particular, is really great for, I think, community building.

Adam Elenbaas
Cool, what was it called again?

Spencer
it's called The Flowering Wand by Sophie Strand. It's really; it's a really amazing book; I'm kind of in the middle of it right now. And she's basically making the argument that myths will arise from different cultures that will respond to the conditions that are needed for that particular time and place. And she's really connecting it with some of the actions that are needed to combat climate change and things of that nature and like cyclical time, and it's just, it's really brilliant. She's a great writer, a great poet. And it really is challenging the way we look at these masculine figures. And I think it's, again, I can't recommend it enough.

Adam Elenbaas
What do you mean, just out of curiosity? This is not a criticism. It's just a question. What do you think about women acting as experts about men's like that? That would be a turnoff to me initially, not that I wouldn't read it. But just initially, if I were going to pick something up and read it, I would be like, I don't want to read it. I don't trust a woman to have authority on the subject.

Spencer
I think it's a really interesting perspective. Honestly, I think we need strong women's voices right now, especially when it comes to things like how we build community. How do we be responsible, masculine men figures in the world? You know, we've gotten to a point where humanity is at risk of basically eliminating itself with the patriarchy in charge. And I think it's probably a good time to really highlight feminine voices and the sacred feminine; I think that we can still be men. But I think that it's about connecting in a communal way rather than an individualistic warring way, I guess. Because that hasn't worked. We've gotten to a point in history where it's not working anymore. So I'm all for it. I'm open and ready to learn.

Adam Elenbaas
It's interesting. I'm still not sure that I would, it's not the first thing I would go to personally, but I hear you. It's an, and I'm open to it, too. I'm like; I'm always that way. I'm always like, you know, does that like what, who would I want to hear from on a particular subject? But then I'm always interested in especially if someone has a good recommendation. You know, I'll always be interested to especially, you know, people like you guys, so I'll put it on the screen so people can check it out to hold on, let

Spencer
I was trying to figure this out the other day; there's like another group on Instagram. I can't remember the name of it. But it is like a rewilding sacred masculinity group that is like a men's group that gets together and tries to feel, tries to like, figure out how they can relate in a way that is collaborative, rather than competitive, or that is, I don't know what the word is.

Spencer
I need to do more research on that particular group. But I know there are groups like that out there that are trying to, like, allow men to feel things and not have to hide behind these, like, I don't know, these shells of machismo or the toxic version of that masculinity. Yeah, just it's a really, it's a wonderful book. I'm Whoa.

Kip
Holy cow.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah. Can you see it on the screen? Yeah. So just in case anyone wants to check it out, I probably will too. I appreciate it. And I am expressing my skepticism. I'm just trying to be honest about, like, what my initial response would be in the case and also in case it is for other men out there who are listening. But yeah, I mean, it's not like, you know, it's there's anyone can have a valuable perspective. And, and I think oftentimes, you know, like, I just think of like how often My wife has a perspective that enlightens me. So, it's not like I wouldn't; I would just discard it. But yeah, that's interesting.

Spencer
I think the myth teaches us the myths teach us, like, potentially a different perspective. So I just think it's very well-researched. And sometimes, the sacred stories can be our teachers rather than just one individual voice. And I think that's; she does a really good job of using those stories to help people connect and, maybe in a different way, just finding a new perspective.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, that's cool. What else do we have on our list to talk about in terms of Mars, retrograde, slash direct updates, or anything else you guys want to look at?

Spencer
I'm gonna look at Derek Carr for a second. Like he, this came out interesting to do here yesterday.

Adam Elenbaas
He was like my number one dud pick. I was like, at the beginning of the year, like I think he's, you know, maybe sleeper for one, you know, like MVP. And I don't remember exactly which transit I was looking at.

Spencer
But yeah, he said, Well, he just, just like Davante Adams traded to his team. That wasn't the worst prediction in the world. But yeah,

Adam Elenbaas
I was pretty stoked about it at first.

Spencer
But he's an Aries sun, Aries, Mercury. And he, as Mars was stationing. He kind of he's lost his job as a starting quarterback of the Raiders. He hasn't played the last two weeks of the season. And he came out and said like, this is I'm done here. I'm going to be moving on. And I just thought that was really interesting as Mars was stationing direct that he was making that declarative statement about a separation.

Adam Elenbaas
Another interesting example that I meant to mention today was the Minnesota Twins' signing of Carlos Correia, which was especially Mars Retrograde because initially, he went to the Giants; that negotiation broke down because of some concerns that they had about an old ankle injury. Then he went to the Mets. That negotiation broke down because of the same concerns. And so the twins, who he played for last year, swooped in and signed him on a lesser deal once probably better, honestly, for the team than a 10-year 13-year deal or whatever it was he was looking for. So they end up getting him on a six-year deal. And he ends up coming back to Minnesota through this wild roller coaster of different failed negotiations. And it was, of course, all during a Mercury Retrograde as well. So you have Mars Retrograde, slowing down gestation, while Mercury Retrogrades. And as that station, it was yesterday that he actually signed with the twins.

Kip
So this isn't just some schmo. This guy is one of the best players in the league. I remember the twins traded for him. It was such an unknown Twins-like move. They're bringing in, you know, a top-five guy in the league. Yeah, at least signed everywhere. Of course, the entire spectrum of twin spans are like, of course, we bring the guy in for one year, and he gets the biggest contract ever handed out by some giant mega-market team.

Adam Elenbaas
I think it's interesting that one of the things that came up in the interview last night in that discussion, which is also very Mars Retrograde, is that his agent was they were asking me, Why did like what's wrong with his health? And it's like, well, he had an ankle injury a long time ago, and he hasn't had any issues with the ankle since, like, the ankle injury was in, like, 2014.

So they were like, you know, he's fine. And the way that the agent spun it when they said, why did this all break down? As he said, Well, there's a considerable gap in the world of sports medicine, which I would consider to be a very Mars in Mercury's sign. Mercury, like in Gemini kind of Sports Medicine, feels like it could be Mars in Gemini. So he says there's a considerable gap in the sports medicine world between practical therapeutic evaluation, meaning people who work with him and see how he moves and cuts and what his functional abilities are. And those people who are just sitting behind screens, who have never seen him worked with him, have no practical vision of his abilities, who are looking at an MRI and reading it technically.

And he's like, there's this huge gap between the different kinds of evaluations and conclusions that these two types of analysts come to in the world of sports medicine, and he was explaining it, and I was just thinking, well, that's also Mars Retrograde in Gemini there being the split or chasm within how data or information When is analyzed relative to a sports player in his old injury, so it felt like a very Mars Mars Retrograde in Gemini subtopic within the back and forth of the negotiations themselves.

Spencer
Isn't Correia, didn't he like try to sign with two different teams before he landed with the Twins, not just one failed signing?

Adam Elenbaas
It was to feel like you went to like San Francisco Giants and then the Mets.

Kip
Reread that contract over and over

Spencer
What's in his chart? What does this come up in his particular chart or

Adam Elenbaas
you know, I haven't looked at his chart. I can pull it up well while you guys are just gonna mention it.

Kip
I've got a couple of NFL quarterback charts I want to look at. Okay, cool. Wait for Correia. Yeah, I can pull it up. Yeah, a couple in particular that I wanted, well, so for the playoffs, but also, we discussed a little earlier. This Andrew Tate idea of Jupiter moving out of Pisces whereas where the natal Jupiter was, and into Aries and that kind of being where his luck ran out. When we look at Jalen Hertz nativity, you're gonna see exactly the same thing. It's almost to the day Jupiter moves out of his, you know, his, the place first of all of Jupiter's home, right where Jupiter is happy and content but also, where did aliens Natal? Jupiter is, and almost the minute, it gets out of there. His leg blows up, which of course for him. When you're a guy that bases being a quarterback on your feet, that's a big danger of getting hurt. And it's, you know, just like luck running out.

Spencer
Right? Yeah, one other Mars story that was pretty interesting is Jamal Williams, who was one of the better fantasy pickups I had on my last-place team. Yeah, okay. But he set the new franchise record for rushing touchdowns for the Detroit Lions, and he's an Aries sun. So there was some kind of, like, looking back in the history of the Lions franchise, and he had never had more than, like, four touchdowns or something like that in a season. And then he goes to the lions, and during this Mars Retrograde scores, 17 rushing touchdowns, and you were talking about, like, feats that were unusual, right, as far as like scoring feats or things of that nature. So I thought that was a pretty good example of that.

Kip
For him and for the Lions.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, right. Justin Jefferson breaks the single-season record set for receptions and yards for Minnesota Vikings held previously by Randy Moss. I was at the game when he did it, which was really cool. And yeah, I mean that that idea of their being and he was he is a Mars is the Jupiter in Gemini or Mars in Gemini guy.

Kip
Gemini Sun is in Gemini and actually was almost exactly at the place where Mars stationed to go retrograde because I remember he and Cooper Kupp were both right there. And that was my test case.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, yeah. That that. So he's had; of course, he is very likely could be offensive player of the year. So you know. That was definitely my best fantasy choice of all of the players I drafted. I think he was the best, for sure.

Spencer
I specifically avoided him with the first overall pick that I had because of Gemini sun. And I was worried he was gonna get hurt because, I mean, Kip's pick Cooper Kupp, Gemini sun, like, went down a third of the way into the season, right?

Adam Elenbaas
Did he get hit? Did his Sun get actually hit by Mars, or was it at the same degree as Jefferson's?

Kip
really close? I think it did get hit. I think he might have been 22, and Jefferson was at 24 vice versa.

Adam Elenbaas
Okay, interesting. Well, anyway, here's Carlos Correia's chart. Can you guys see it? I'm not sure of anything. I mean, I'm just looking at it like it does anything; he does have Mars in its fall. I don't know. I don't know if that would make a huge difference in terms of how a Mars Retrograde transit would go for a person. This is a new chart. So that's interesting.

Spencer
He has a Virgo sun, and Gemini or Mercury was retrograde during this last period of time too. So you might have been feeling that, but also, you see Venus and Jupiter being hosted by Mars. So you know his desires are changing; you know he's second-guessing his desire with Venus potentially being

Kip
good luck is good luck charm was under the was being ruled Yeah, by that Mars Retrograde the whole time.

Adam Elenbaas
You know, the other thing is that we don't know when he was born if he was born, you know, anytime really between midnight and, say, 10am or 9am, you're going to have a late degree Aries Moon, which would be getting the square from Pluto right now. So that would be a possibility in terms of like a medical evaluation that completely changes the course of your professional career.

Kip
Either way, we're likely to have him sign during Pluto squaring his natal Moon, so that'll be fun.

Adam Elenbaas
I know. That and how about Neptune opposing his Sun too? I'd be a little bit more optimistic about that one because I think sometimes that can translate into glamorous, you know, fame and stuff like that. But the Moon one is hard for sure. This is why I don't I like typically don't look at the charts of Minnesota sports teams' athletes, because I get depressed. No, I'm just playing. There was another one that I had on my mind. But anything else you guys have on your list? You wanna look at some of those quarterbacks, Kip?

Kip
Yeah, let's do that. I want to; we don't need to bring up Jaylen Hertz. What I want to do first is bring up a couple of folks who had what I thought were particularly benefic charts. So first, I'm going to bring up Joe Burrow. The thing that I think is so interesting about this is it just really has come on. Sunday, I'm gonna figure out how to do this really quickly and efficiently. But it's not right now. So Joe is gonna go in, and what I mostly looked at was the Super Bowl, which is February 12.

So we can just put that on. I did this for two reasons. One, you know, of course, that's the big game. And that's what everyone's looking to. But also, you know, if you're going to have a specific trance transit that's going to show up during the big game, you had to get there. So grinding through each game, I really only did for the Vikings. But what we're seeing with Joe is we're seeing a lot of shaking things up. You see Mercury going over his Natal, Uranus.

And I think that this year, this isn't as big of a deal. Because you see, Joe is a guy who's been there before, but last year was incredibly surprising that Joe ended up in the Super Bowl. And I still think that it would be surprising again, and this shows a lot of surprises. But then the other thing that I thought was particularly interesting was Joe has this natal Venus, contacting exactly, transiting Venus contacting is Natal. Mars, and why I think that's particularly interesting is that Joe's most kind of notable, positive Omen in his chart is this Jupiter, trine Mars, and they both then sextile Venus, and you see transiting Venus just plugged right in here just so neatly. And this is really, you know, Venus, in her favorite place in the Zodiac sitting in Pisces, just really couldn't be more tightly wound in everything that makes Joe's chart kind of benefic. And this really, in a lot of ways.

This reminds me I remember when we were looking at the World Cup, and it was the young player from France, who was so good, MBappe. And I looked at that chart, and I said, Wow, he looks like he's going to have a great World Cup ended up being the first guy ever to get a hat trick. In the final for the World Cup. And there are really a lot of ways. I'm really, really, really happy Venus just plugged right into where Joe's chart is particularly benefic. And so you know, if I had to make a pick if I were a guy that threw down bets, I think that the Bengals are looking really good based on this chart, just so you know, especially if they end up making it all the way to the Super Bowl. What did you guys look at this and say anything different?

Spencer
I mean, I think that your method for the World Cup actually played out a little better than my South Node conjunction method that we talked about. I totally biffed on the two finalists, much to my friend's and Croatia's chagrin, although they did bring home the third-place trophy, which they were actually very excited about.

Kip
I guess that's such a big deal because Croatia is a small country, but be the two countries, France has been a juggernaut for a decade now. And Brazil, or I'm sorry, Argentina, is one of the two greatest soccer countries in the world. So it's not, I mean, going for Croatia, and that kind of group is really going out on a limb.

Spencer
Yeah, I mean, well, and I think, though, for that particular coach, that probably is a huge success. So I guess maybe, if we look at it from that perspective, maybe the method is showing something that is a life-changing event for them.

Kip
For sure, gonna be at the top of the guy's obituary. I mean, that could be more. It's like the biggest event of his life. And it was. I just really think that this Joe Burrows chart for the Super Bowl, in particular, is pretty spectacular. It would be hard for me to see the Bengals in the Super Bowl and not think that they're going to win other than this one. And I've talked about this before. Tom Brady, when he gets to the Super Bowl, has this amazing fit in his chart.

Spencer
He's in his own perfection right now, too. Isn't he like with a really lucky Venus activated?

Adam Elenbaas
That's like his whole life.

Spencer
He's the luckiest football player I've ever seen. Not to say that he isn't talented. But that guy's gotten more breaks. It's just like; I don't know.

Kip
So the thing with Tom Brady's chart is I don't know how much you guys have paid attention to financial astrology. But the thing you always look for is always here; I guess I don't look for it. As much as I've heard about it is Pluto, Sun Jupiter. And if you look at Tom Brady's chart, every year, when we get to Super Bowl time, the Sun is in about the same place. And it's always plugged right into his north node, which, as you've been pointing out, Spencer has always been a benefic signal in when we're talking about sporting events in particular, but then we also have this sun Jupiter sextile, and I swear if you go through Tom Brady's life, and look at all the times he's been in the Super Bowl, this has been lit up either with Jupiter which it is here, you know, it isn't a three degree.

Yeah, but that's still pretty amazing considering we're talking about transiting Jupiter hitting this spot that is one of the most potent three-planet situations we can talk about in maybe all of astrology, but also the Sun isn't quite there, but the Sun is really close to hitting Tom's north node. So again, you just see Tom With so much going on in his chart, at an incredibly benefic time in his life and in the season. You see, even this transiting Mars, which is back, you know, he's having his Mars return since Mars got towards that station. That's when Tom turned it back up, and his receivers got healthy. He had the biggest three games in the entire season in the last three weeks; we're gonna see Mars almost right on top of Tom's natal Mars. And if there's ever been a Chappie in the league, a guy who gets fired up and just thrives on getting in other dudes' faces, it is Tom Brady. I know that he's like Mr. Pretty boy, who has commercials and stuff, but Tom is a winner, and he will find guys and yell in their faces. We'll just see in more than that all here for Tom.

Spencer
What's your birth time? There, actually, because you're talking about 11:48am, pm. Do I have a pm on here? Yeah, he's. I feel like his chart is am because he.

Kip
we can really ignore the specifics of the houses.

Spencer
Because Venus, like at the very top of his chart, like aspecting, is a Sunday

Adam Elenbaas
Oh, so it's probably am, not pm, then.

Kip
That makes sense. The more important part of this is that it is the Transiting Planets, and they're just all lighting them up again, and not to make this gambling-tastic, but the odds of Tampa Bay winning the Superbowl is incredibly low. Like they're right by the Vikings at the bottom of the charts. And I just every time I'm a guy that doesn't like Tom Brady to you, and I can't tell you how many times I've pulled up his chart when he's gone to the Super Bowl. Just the fact that I can say out loud that he's been at the Super Bowl, so many times that I've repeatedly brought up his chart makes me mad. And every time I pull it up, I'm like, oh, again, Tom.

Spencer
Here he is again. I've learned how to bet against him. I will say that if we looked at that South Node north node technique. I still think that I'm still gonna hold with the Eagles because the Eagles coach has the ruler of his Sun exactly on the north on the south node. I think the Eagles are gonna lose the Super Bowl. I don't have as much of a solid opinion about who is going to win. Although I did see some pretty important positive Testimonies for Andy Reid of the Kansas City Chiefs

Adam Elenbaas
What about the Vikings, Come on, now we got we have some hope.

Spencer
Now I'm waiting for the hurts to break the inevitable heartbreak; only a matter of time.

Adam Elenbaas
Here are my Vikings giants horary. I'm going to the game this Sunday with a friend. And so I pulled the story for Vikings vs. giants in the playoffs in the first round. I feel like this horary makes me feel pretty good about them getting out of the first round. You've got their the ruler of the first house, which is gonna represent the Vikings as Jupiter, pretty much bang on the ascendant. And then you have the seventh house ruler as the Giants, and they are on the 11th House cusp retrograde and under the beams of the Sun. So, you know, just the first level of analysis in horror, the way I've been trained with contest Tory is to always look at accidental dignity. And, you know, an angular Jupiter in on the ascendant is superior to the succeeding Mercury, who's under the beams of the Sun and retrograde. So I would think that this would go in the first round and that the Vikings would get out of it. Beyond that, they would probably face San Francisco and then likely have to face the Eagles on the road. Both games doubt it. But it will be a ride to remember, probably one way or another.

Kip
Getting to playoff games for a first-year head coach, he can't complain about that.

Adam Elenbaas
No, I mean, like, in my opinion, if they make it to the second round, the only thing I would feel is a total failure is if you see their games for people who don't get on the Vikings. Their games this year were one of two things close games; they won by one possession, typically at the end of the game, or they got their teeth kicked in. They got completely wasted. So I just don't want my goal to be a Vikings fan.

Realistically, I'm not holding out a lot of hope that they're gonna make it to the Super Bowl or win the Super Bowl. But I do. I would like to see them play a competitive game if they get outed, like if they get outed by the Niners or if they were to make it through and get outed in the NFC Championship game. I would love to see a game where they lose by a touchdown, not 28 points.

Even if they lose by 10 points, not 28 points, something where you have some hope that they're learning how to be a more competitive team in big moments, I think that's to me, that would be a step in the right direction for a rookie coach with a lot of young, talented young core. As a Vikings fan, I have to say I'm very skeptical about whether or not Kirk Cousins has the destiny of a Joe burrow, a Josh Allen, or a Patrick Mahomes. In terms of someone, even Matthew Stafford, someone who can win a Super Bowl. I just don't feel it. I'm just I'm like, he's good. But he just doesn't feel like he has it factor, even like, you know, goofy Eli Manning, who could just go on these tears and win a couple of Super Bowls. I just I'm just not sure he has that.

Destiny, I could be wrong. One of the things that will be interesting is next year, cousins will be in a contract year, and he has Uranus squaring his son in Leo. To me, that could be a breakthrough year in terms of performance, especially if you're playing for a new contract. Of course, maybe that's something they get excited about. But frankly, I wouldn't be upset if they didn't. If they go out in embarrassing fashion in the playoffs, then, like Spencer, who is ready to move on from Aaron Rodgers and see the Jordan Love era begin, I'd be ready for a new quarterback in Minnesota myself if that happened to us in the playoffs.

Spencer
Yeah, you all might start to understand the heartbreak of being a game or two away from the Super Bowl and then just having your heart ripped out. That's not fun. I mean, you know, it's fun to win during the regular season. I mean, let's not beat around the bush. I think I'd rather be a good team than be a shit one. But I think that when you get so close to that moment, and then you just can't get over the hump. It really is. It's stressful. It's heartbreaking. I don't know. I think that I empathize with all of you. I'm like Kings fans. Well, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. I mean, Destiny, you know, ever. No, no speaking of Aaron Rodgers, like, I watched the pseudo-playoff game between the Packers and the lions. I know this is like a Viking-centric show here.

Adam Elenbaas
No, you're welcome here. You're safe.

Spencer
I, you know, I watched what could potentially have been Aaron Rodgers's last game on, you know, ever potentially it could have been his last game as a packer; it could have been his last game in the NFL. You didn't know it; he looks like a guy that's ready for a change or to either move on to a different team or to move on to a different life stage. And he has some really interesting astrology in summer with the ruler of his ascendant Venus is going to be going retrograde right when training camp starts, basically at the end of July. And the ruler of his 10th house, Saturn, is also turning retrograde over the course of the summer. And he'll have Pluto moving into his 10th house. So I just think change. I think change is coming.

Adam Elenbaas
I think you have his birthtime, actually.

Spencer
Yeah, we do have a time chart for it.

Adam Elenbaas
Does that mean he has Leo in the fourth? Yeah, yeah. Okay. So that would mean he also has the long Venus retrograde in Leo over the summer, which could coincide with relocating or something around? Absolutely.

Spencer
And I do think that if the Packers, I don't know, I think men, most fans are ready to move on at this point. I think that the smart long-term-focused fans probably would have been in support of a trade like Russell Wilson going to Denver, and the hall that has picked that the Packers might have gotten for that. I still do think that if he decides to stick around and they trade him, they could still get a pretty decent package. But I don't think it's going to be as lucrative as last year. But yeah, Jordan love, it needs to have his fifth-year option picked up, and it's a $20 million option. And he's looked pretty good in the preseason and in the short periods of time that he's come on and relief. And I just think that the Packer's salary cap right now is really messed up.

Kip
And I think it's just time at the risk of getting to sports cop radio. We're not astrological enough, although I guess Mercury is still retrograde. So contract talk. We can wedge it in. If they don't, either. They let Jordan love have a shot, or they don't, and it's kind of like they have to trade them this year. And Jordan love gets a shot, or they keep him for two years, and Jordan love gets a shot someplace else. It's the way the contracts line up. It's that both things aren't going to happen.

Spencer
Well, Jordan Love was making some rumblings that if he isn't starting next year, he wants to be traded.

Kip
So and I don't know what leverage he has, but probably they get 100% Fair for him to bring it up. Yeah.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, it's so interesting how Green Bay has had this weird, it's like a weird karmic echo with Brett Farve, and, you know, it's like this weird thing where it's like the same quarterback thing is happening. One of the things that I like you were saying earlier is, like, welcome to the packer pain of making it close but not getting over the hump. There's another karma that you guys are not familiar with.

Spencer
And it's called the pain of being very excited about shit quarterbacks for about 20 years of your life for Don Mycoskie and Randy; right for those, I was like 11 years old, five came around, so like I've had it pretty good for years here.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, no, I mean, like, you know, I just It couldn't be like I feel like the ultimate Vikings. I feel there are there might be more Vikings fans that are hoping that Jordan Love will suck than they are that our team wins because they don't want to see the Packers get a third Hall-of-Fame quarterback in a row.

Spencer
Let me tell you, there is a pattern between all of those quarterbacks; every single one of them has an important like benefic planet Kazumi, so I think that your Jordan love has been as cazimi as it's in Scorpio. So who knows that? That's one thing. You know, I think that Aaron Rodgers has Uranus and Jupiter conjunct with the Sun. And Brett Farve has, I believe, and I think he had a Jupiter conjunction of the Sun, too, really close.

Kip
I have never looked at Brent farms chart, but the idea that he has Jupiter, Uranus sun, is the most bread far.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, totally. That's, that's funny. It was so funny. I remember watching the 2009 NFC Championship game with Brett Farve, and I remember like when he was playing for the Vikings, and I remember being like, he's, you know, we're in overtime, and I was like, you, you're gonna You better not throw across your body and throw an interception. And, you know, just do a Brett Farve thing here, like we were; all we had to do is kick a field goal. And, and he did it, and I was just like, that's just like his destiny. He did that in a lot of big games.

Spencer
Like, he's another one where he just did so many amazing things. But he did so many other things that were like, yes, yes, yes. No, no.

Adam Elenbaas
Especially like sending dick pics that would be right up there at the top of like, oh, no, what did you do? What have you done?

Spencer
So lead his legacy. And I think that that's also something that Aaron Rodgers is really almost, unfortunately, has sort of followed in Brett's footsteps is he's really created a lot of controversy at the end of his career. And I'm not sure what he's doing after his retirement. But yeah, it's just a weird, weird kind of thing. I heard summer was one that kept his reputation intact, but he's a Capricorn.

Adam Elenbaas
So okay, I mean, this probably is a stupid question that we all would just agree with. But I have to put it out there. Do you guys believe that teams, regardless of, you know, the personnel from year to year that teams have karma? Right. I totally believe that which is why I think it would be interesting at some point for us to try to dig up like Spencer dug up the Minnesota Vikings chart. Because one thing that would be interesting for us to do at some point would be to say we're in the natal chart can we see the quarterback pattern in Green Bay like it as a natal pattern? It has to be there somewhere, or the Viking's patterns with kickers, for example. Like where do we, you know, where do we see this?

Kip
It feels to me like, obviously, the Vikings kickers in the 12

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, yeah, totally.

Spencer
I mean, you, the Packers chart has a sun and Leo with Jupiter conjoining the Sun, and like a Mercury, you know, almost cazimi and Saturn on Regulus So, and the Viking start has a bunch of like Aquarius placements like including the sign in Aquarius.

Kip
so that when Pluto goes into Aquarius, it's going to clean house and, yeah, for their power. And I

Spencer
will say Jordan Love has Jupiter in Pisces, so he also has that Jupiterian look that Aaron Rodgers did with Jupiter in Sagittarius, a domicile Jupiter, so I'm actually feeling pretty bullish on Jordan love, and I'm ready. That's why I'm saying. Okay, I think it's time to move on. But I want to know either way because if he sucks, then you want to move on. You don't want to just like wait,

Adam Elenbaas
I know this bodes well for me; Spencer, as a Vikings fan, is because your ability to divine with your fantasy football season last year has been so stellar that I know that the Packers are not going to do well with Jordan love. I'm just teasing. I'm just teasing.

Spencer
You know, give me another year. This is my first year in fantasy football. Deal for sure. For sure.

Adam Elenbaas
The rules you've worked out since my very first year playing fantasy football. I just I was, Yeah, I mean, it was just like, oh my god, I don't know what the hell I'm doing.

Spencer
But yeah, just wait until I get the number one pick, and I'll take Jefferson next year.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah. Do you want to?

Spencer
Oh my gosh. Your faces, that's what I would do.

Adam Elenbaas
It won't be Nagi Harris again. I don't think anyone's gonna that was pips mine was the CaRr, and Kips was Nagi Harris. I don't know what yours was; Spencer's worse pics of the year but

Spencer
geez, I had so many worst picks in my fantasy league. I picked Harris. I picked Javante Williams, who, like Justin Herbert, I thought was going to be a super stud but ended up being very middling for the entire year. So yeah, I had some problems with my draft; for sure.

Adam Elenbaas
I managed to trade David Montgomery and Debo Samuel for Austin Eckler. That worked out. I was, I was, I was my best trade of the year for sure. Yeah, I mean, the thing is, is that it was for a fantasy year; we're going to do this again. Just everyone's listening. We

Spencer
call it the Justin field story on this podcast because I think we should have, I don't know.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, go ahead. No, go ahead before I tell the thing about next weekend to the

Spencer
end of the season, you made some proposals to some of the people in our fantasy football league that were somewhat lopsided. And, you know,

Adam Elenbaas
I know where they are where. You know, people have their own minds.

Spencer
They have their own abilities and traded Antonio Gibson for Justin fields in the middle of his 40 Point barrage.

Adam Elenbaas
You know, look, people will look at that, like, I'm the kind of person who, like, if I see someone who has a wide receiver deprived team and someone's getting hot Antonio Gibson was, then I will be like, Hey, do you want Antonio Gibson, and I'll take a high upside guy like fields who may be at this point is going to keep scoring 40 Point games. Some people will take that trade. I don't think it's unfair you came to me.

Spencer
were like, can I borrow Justin Herbert for a week?

Adam Elenbaas
Borrow trades are totally legitimate. You can borrow one of my players for a week; we'll trade back next week.

Spencer
My biggest mistake was like, you know, Justin fields is really hot right now, you're like, Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah. That's That's true. I

Adam Elenbaas
I will say that the Justin Fields trade I proposed was your idea.

Spencer
So I know. You're a great friend, Adam.

Adam Elenbaas
But we gotta be cutthroat when it comes to fantasy. I'm just playing next year; we're going to do a fantasy league for everyone listening. And we're going to do it again. And we had a bunch of astrologers, in the kip and Spencer and I and a bunch of other people who are like, I think next year, what I'm going to do is like, take a couple $100 from the Kickstarter, make it, throw it in just for fun. So there's something at stake, because one thing that also happened is, you have to find, I think having something a little bit at stake, not like ridiculous, keeps people engaged more. I think we probably some people were falling off a little bit.

Kip
You should spend that cash on a sweet astrology-based statute or trophy. Yes. Yeah, that's fine. You just had a trophy. That had been enough.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, dude. That's a great idea. Actually, we'll get a custom-made Saturn trophy or something.

Spencer
Like the nightlight logo on or something.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, totally. The nightlight champion.

Spencer
my feeling in that story with Justin fields, or my, like, embarrassing moment, is that, and I think that this should be said too, is that when you traded for Justin fields, I was so angry, I pulled like a scene from the league. Like I was like, me and Adam Kip.

Kip
Because Adam and I made like 50 moves left there.

Spencer
My point being is that Adam and I were making moves every single week, like WIC, like, literally, I think I had 50 moves. And Adam had like 48 or something like that. The next closest was like 13. And I was like, offering all these trades. I was offering trades to people. They were just not even responding to my messages. And then Adams Oh, that's a good idea, like trades for fields for Gibson, who I had earlier in the season. When I did that, I was so part of my friends, but I talked to my partner. I was like, I hope Justin fields chairs this fucking ACL. I was still in the moment. Because, you know, I was really invested. I was doing research. I was doing, like, tons of like, tarot readings every week for each individual.

Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, like one of my wife's cousins, who was in our league. He was like, over here, right around the New Year. And he goes, so, who's the Spencer guy? He made the most moves in the league. And he ended up in last place. Like, you'd think, you know, like someone making that many moves, like, like, what was his philosophy, and I was like, you know, the problem was that he was pulling tarot cards behind all this.

Spencer
And it was in my defense, too. I was a little bit too of a homer this year, too. I used too many Green Bay players in the beginning of the season. And my other problem I had for those of you who want to learn from my mistakes is that I really did a ton of research on the NFL Draft. Before I knew we were going to do fantasy football. And I realized that, man, I didn't really know the league as well as I thought I did. But I knew the draft really well. So I like had all the like rookie wide receivers, and I was like, I'm gonna play all these rookies at the beginning of the season. And they ended up doing really well at the end of the season. But it took them a while to get there, and I was basing too many things on potential.

Kip
That is a classic first-time-playing fantasy football move.

Spencer
Totally. So I learned I learned that that lesson well. So next year is coming. Yeah, you'll be prepared.

Adam Elenbaas
Well, we are at an hour and 10 minutes, so we're going to stop here. I hope that everyone enjoyed this episode and that you guys were able to, you know, learn something new about Mars Retrograde; enjoy the ride with us on speculating about sports. And in the NFL playoffs here. We will do another episode here in February, hopefully before the Superbowl. I think we ought to try to make some predictions and publish something before the Superbowl.

Does that sound like a good idea? Well, in the meantime, as always, if you guys are new to the channel, don't forget to subscribe. Otherwise, give us the thumbs up. We really appreciate it. Share some of your own comments and reflections on astrology, your favorite sports teams, and things you'd like us to cover; feel free to drop some comments in there. We will as the NFL season is winding down, I think we will be shifting our attention throughout the winter to the NBA. I'm not a huge fan of the NHL, but maybe a little bit of NHL, we could get in there. And we can start shifting our attention also to things like free agency and the draft and things like that.

So it should be lots to talk about through the winter as well. And it will be interesting to talk about Mars going into cancer after it finishes in Gemini, where we can; we can try to debunk the idea that Mars in Cancer makes only poor athletes. There are actually some tremendous examples of very successful athletes with Mars in Cancer that I thought we could look at. So we can do some of those things coming up as well. Carlos Correia. Yeah, there you go. Was it Michael Phelps? I believe it's Michael Phelps as well. So a competitive swimmer, but anyway, we'll get to that later. Thank you, everybody, for listening. And we will see you guys again next time. Bye, everyone.