The Dharma of the Rising Signs: Aries

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Hey everyone, this is Adam Elenbaas from Nightlight Astrology. Happy Saturday, everybody. Today's some special bonus content for you. As I mentioned in one of my previous videos, one of the goals of this channel in the year ahead and hopefully for many years to come is to host features that support the creative work of some of the most talented Nightlight students and alumni that have come through our programs who are new and upcoming content creators. I am really excited to be doing this because it makes for some fun, bonus content on the weekends. And it also showcases some new talent that I think you guys will really like. And it's a way for me to help support the students and future generations of astrologers, something I really believe in doing. I think it's important to do that, especially since I've had people who helped me with that exact same thing as I was coming up and still am. So anyway, on that note, today, my friend Emma Frey will be joining us to discuss the dharma of the rising signs. It is the first of a 12-part series we're going to be doing together, looking at the mythology or the kind of character arc, the stories that really define the lives of Aries rising individuals. And we're taking a really unique approach, which is we're going to look at the way in which people famous actors and actresses with Aries rising have often embodied the roles in their roles that they have played the Dharma or mythology of the rising sign of their own chart, which is fascinating. And something we're going to talk we're also gonna talk about why we think that that actually happens quite frequently in Hollywood, and how that connection is even possible. So we'll talk about that at the beginning of the episode. But I think you guys are going to really like this; it's going to be a good way to get to know the rising signs and mythology and dharma of the rising signs while also getting to see some really colorful storytelling and beautiful pattern connections that Emma is really, really good at. So I hope you guys will enjoy this. Don't forget to like and subscribe, share your comments and reflections. You can find a transcript of today's talk on the website nightlight astrology.com. As I am making this, you know that we're trying to get to 17 177 backers by New Year's Eve. As of the time I'm recording this, we have 858 backers that we have received support from, which means we need 919 left; it's getting closer, like we're actually making some really good progress. It's been a historically slow year. There's probably a lot of reasons for that. But we have nine days left. So we really need your support. 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Adam Elenbaas 0:01
I am really excited to have my friend and colleague Emma Frey with me to discuss the mythology of the rising signs as they appear in Hollywood and in some of the most familiar actors and stories of Hollywood. This is a series that Emma has developed out of her own creative genius, and I'm just so happy to be hosting it and kind of playing along with her. I really, I deeply admire her, and I know you guys are going to as well; her work is fantastic, and we'll tell you more about her and how you can learn all about her, and she's going to introduce herself too. But this is the first of a series that we're doing that we'll be looking at the mythology of the rising signs as they play themselves out in the roles that famous actors and actresses play in Hollywood, and this is one of the best ways, in my opinion, to get to know the archetypes and I'm so happy to have Emma with us today to start diving in. So Emma, welcome to the show. It's so nice to have you here.

Emma Frey
Thank you. It's so nice to be here.

Adam Elenbaas 1:00
Yeah, I just love your work. I've been a fan. Ashley and I were on your podcast at one point, and I have followed you on Instagram for a while. I want to tell people right away that if you want to check it, you can even pause the video and go check Emma's workout on Instagram. It's at patterns in the stars. That's where you can find her work and all of the really interesting ways that she charts astrology, and it is really a unique offering. Um, let her tell you more about the work that she does. But yeah, Emma, why don't you introduce us to the series where the idea came from that we're going to be unpacking here in not just this video but in 11 More that will track all of the different rising signs and maybe also Could you introduce us to yourself and your work in a broader sense as well. Yes, absolutely.

Emma Frey 1:48
So, if you don't mind, I'm going to share my screen right now just so I can dive into that. I can see my Canva, which is my preferred mode of creation for my Instagram. Let's make it full-screen. All right, so I am on Instagram as patterns in the stars. If you know me at all, this is how you know me. I share pictures of Hollywood stars side by side with stars that share the same natal placements. Typically, as you can see, in the lower corner, I share big three posts. So Helen Keller and Robin Williams share the same sun, moon, and rising, and I think it's really interesting to see patterns that I perceive and share them. I'm a Gemini Sun Gemini midheaven, and so my passion is sharing the data, sharing the patterns that I see, and then stepping back and hoping that you see the same patterns I do without imposing necessarily what I'm seeing and that's what I want to do today with a sort of different patterns in the stars. We're going to focus today on the rising sign, as Adam talked about, and on my Instagram account, I have shared pictures of celebrities who share the same rising sign, as seen here with masculine presenting Virgo risings. I think that you can see similarities between them. It's up to you whether or not you agree, but I see certain similarities between all of those celebrities represented there, and I also see similarities in actors' stories in film. Something that I think is often lost when talking about the rising sign in modern astrology is the huge importance of the rising sign. The rising sign in Hellenistic astrology was considered the place of the native. It represents one's character, it represents one's individual body, and it can represent one's dharma as well, and so when we turn the jewel as Adam talks about, with regard to certain elements of astrology, we find new layers of meaning that we can pull apart and just discover more richness, and so when we think about appearances, we can go deeper than surface level. There's a great poem by Octavio Paz in which they say appearances are the shadows of archetypes, and I think that pertains really well to what we're going to be talking about here. I'm going to bring in the all too familiar Allegory of the Cave, Plato's Allegory of the Cave, because I think it works on so many levels. Film, of course, is projected onto a screen, and so that's one way in which this allegory fits really nicely. I think, for those who don't know, the concept is that people are chained to a wall, and all they've ever known is what they're seeing projected onto a wall that they're looking at. So you can see here that this man sitting down is looking at a projection of a bird figure, and that's all they know; they think that that projection of the bird is the thing. But, of course, if you stand back, there's a projection of something else. A primordial image, if you will, an archetype that is being projected forth by way of fire, could also be liked from a projector, and so when we're talking about this project that I'm doing, I like to think of that bird as this diagonal archetype, one of the 12 and then the projection is what we see in film, so a protagonist character arc that they're going through in a movie. To explain this a little bit better. I'm gonna start with Virgo because I'm a Virgo rising, and so I've just, I've delved quite deep into this one, and I've got a lot to say about it. So I think this is a really clear example. The archetype itself, in this case, is Virgo. It harkens back to the 12 different phases of light throughout the year. If you take Adams astrology course in the first year, you will learn more about that. But in short, each of the 12 signs corresponds to a different phase of light. So Virgo is the ending of the waning of the dominance of the lights, and that light phase can be translated into a story into a character journey, the most familiar of which is Beauty and the Beast slash Persephone and Hades. They're kind of the same thing, and so that is, I think, a really nice translation of that light phase into story into mythology. We'll get into when the Virgo episode rolls around, we'll get into the more Hellenistic mythology associated with Virgo. But in this case, it's focused on beauty in the beast, and then taking it one step further, we can see that same story of the same protagonist journey taken in films like The Sound of Music in Greece. For all Beauty and the Beast, live-action adaptation film adaptations, the protagonist is played by Virgo Rising. That's the 1946 Cocteau version. There's a 2014 French version with Lena Sado and then the Disney Emma Watson. They're all Virgo risings, and then as well in The Sound of Music in Greece, Julie Andrews and Olivia Newton John are also both Virgo risings, and while no one would describe the sound of music or Greece, as you know, modern adaptations of feeding the beast, there are similarities, quite obvious similarities between Bell's character journey and Maria and Sandy's in the sounding music in Greece. So this is the basic idea.

Let's start with Aries, though. So to bring in The Sound of Music. Let's start at the very beginning. In the sign of Aries, the light dominates, triumphs, or takes over from the dark. This is the, of course, break of dawn if we're looking at it in terms of a 24-hour cycle how this is translated into story. So, there are a lot of different myths associated with Aries through different cultures. But since we're talking Hellenistic, let's talk about that core Greek Aries myth of the Golden RAM. You may or may not be familiar about it with familiar with it. The tale here begins with a king named Arthur Moss and his wife, Natalie. I don't know if I'm pronouncing everything correctly, but this king and queen had two children, Phrixus and Hely Athamas. The king marries a second time, and his new wife is kind of a bee, she grows up and grows jealous of the children from his first marriage because, of course, I know she plots to eliminate the children and secure the throne for her own children because so it goes. So, to save those two kids, their actual mother, Neftali, sends a golden ram with a fleece of pure gold to rescue them. The Ram was a divine creature sent by the gods, and it could fly. The children climb onto the back of the Golden Graham and are carried away to safety. There are some parts of the story where the girl falls off the rails and drowns in the waters, but that's not totally relevant to this discussion. The boy, though, is taken to safety, and he then sacrifices the wheeling golden RAM to Zeus and presents its golden fleece, the famous Golden Fleece, to King Alts of Caracas. Not from housing any of that correctly. But the idea here is that there is this figure, this golden figure, that comes down and willingly sacrifices himself for the sake of these children, this budding, budding new life. So with that, taking into consideration that myth, the light phase, and other myths that are associated with Aries, I've identified three different ways of looking at the beginning of the rising of the dominance of the light, the first of which is breaking a cycle of darkness. Remember, the breaking of the dawn can be taken quite literally, and then there's remembering one Divine Right of sovereignty and, finally, the reemergence of the solar father figure. This is the quote-unquote, good father, the capable, fair, strong, and loving father figure. It doesn't have to be gendered, but it's sort of this leadership position within a family or social system. So, with that, I think we can get started. So, I have identified two different characters. Adam has also identified two for each of the three themes, and so I'll kick things off. Every actor included here has an Aries rising, as far as we know. The first is Morgan Freeman, starring in The Shawshank Redemption, which many of you have probably seen; this character's name is Red, and the movie can be kind of; there are moments in it that are quite dark. The focal point is a prison and the despair that that system engenders in the inmates, even after they leave.

Emma Frey 11:46
I don't want to spoil movies too much here. But I guess we have to, to a certain degree. Red chooses life at the end, even when other people have fallen into this despair caused by the prison system, and he chooses a different path at the end, one of hope and light, and if you watch it, I think you'll understand what I mean by that. We're going to include Morgan Freeman again in this category. But first, I'm going to mention my other pick, which is Penelope Cruz, who plays red moonda in Little Bear. This character comes from a family that has seen a lot of suffering and a lot of death; there's some really nasty, sad stuff that has happened in that family's past. It ends with Ray Moonda and her daughter very consciously deviating from said path toward one of hope and renewal. So again, I don't want to spoil it, but it is the breaking of this long-standing cycle of familial tragedy, corruption, and darkness. So yeah, I will then hand it off to Adam for his first pick for this theme.

Adam Elenbaas 13:11
Well, this is I love this. I love those first two characters that you talked about, and yeah, I think what's really interesting is the way that that cycle of darkness often has historical as well as personal implications. So you'll often see Anna, and we're just reflecting on how this can sometimes translate in like my client work with, you know, people with Aries, rising to that there's cycles of darkness being broken that are sometimes generational, ancestral, historical, for example. I've seen I just took some notes before we got started and was like, Yeah, you know, I have seen a number of clients with Aries rising people that I also know personally, who might be the first to go to college in their family. It can be something that's simple, where there's a dawning of the light and the breaking of some cycle and also that theme of sacrifice on behalf of the break, a sacrifice that makes possible the breaking of a cycle. That's also really important. Morgan Freeman is in the movie Glory, which came out in 1989. I'm gonna remember the name of his character. It was Sergeant Major John Rollins, and essentially, he is part of the Union Army's earliest African American regiments in the American Civil War, and he's in that movie, just to put it briefly. His sacrifice as both a leader and a soldier eventually leads to his death in the end. If I remember correctly, I believe that's the very last scene of the movie. I believe he dies. Let me just double-check because I had my notes here. Yeah, so at the very end of the movie, they are sort of leading an attack on a fort, okay, Confederate fort if I remember correctly. Yeah, they make pop Sybil, the breaching of the wall, and yet they die in the process, and His sacrifice ends up being not only an important there's he plays a role in a pivotal moment in the war but also a pivotal moment in American history in terms of the eventual civil rights movement, that trajectory of a more enlightened view of how we treat human beings, right, and a breaking of the darkness of slavery, and also the integration of minorities into the army, which is a big huge part of the story, in addition to it being like a historical Civil War story that has its own interesting role to play in the overall story of the war. There are sacrifices being made in part for a major battle, and in terms of the major battle, for breaking a cycle of darkness in American history, but then also leading the way for black leadership and the army and stuff like that. So, it's just a prototypical Aries rising story to embody that, not entirely different from some of the ways in which Morgan Freeman shows up in Shawshank as well, which is interesting. Yeah.

Adam Elenbaas 16:25
Right, so Olivia Hussey was Juliet, and she, I'm trying to remember when Romeo and Juliet came out, let's see Romeo and Juliet. When did it come out? It was 1968. Right. Anyway, the point that's really interesting is that oftentimes, Aries is also associated with youthfulness and or courage, and there's something about youthfulness and the courage of youthfulness that it's often in the name of the youth or the younger generation that an old cycle needs to be broken. Right and so often, an Aries rising will either be on behalf of the young, on behalf of the new, on behalf of the something new that's dawning, as opposed to something old that you know is maybe stuck, which is interesting, considering Saturn is also in its fall in Aries. Sometimes, the youth will be the martyr in an Aries rising story, or there will be a theme of youthful sacrifice. What's interesting here is that the character Juliet is, of course, breaking the cycle of violence between two families that are in a civil war through the act of love and her own tragic sort of youthful suicide. Right, and so she dies, but through her death, a cycle of civil war and strife is broken between two families, and that theme is really tragic. That sacrificial lamb is often a theme with Aries. For example, there have actually been some really interesting astrologers that Gahl Sasson, I want to say his name is, I remember, he did a talk one time that I heard on, he was making the case that the Aries symbolism fits nicely with the Christ mythology and one of the reasons being that he was a young man who died and that there's a sacrificial lamb motif in Aries, and this would certainly fit the bill for Olivia Hussey. I think that's how you say your name playing Juliet in the 60s version of Romeo and Juliet for sure. Yeah,

Emma Frey 18:58
I love that. I love those examples. Yeah, I think, and it's important to note, too, that there are obviously many Romeo and Juliet adult film adaptations throughout history. Not all of them are going to be portrayed by Aries rising, but I think, especially in the 60s and late 60s, that theme of the youth rising was really really potent, breaking that cycle of darkness. Oh, such a good point. Then, we have the second theme, which again harkens back to the same light phase. It's just it's sort of different way of looking at it, but the idea of remembering one's Divine Right of sovereignty Aries risings in film, at least I don't you know, I would assume perhaps in real life have to reckon with some kind of corrupt controlling figure in their life. It can be a father figure, literally Leave, or it could be a boss, it could be a town leader. Whatever it is, it's often this corrupt, controlling force that they might feel they have to bend to initially. But eventually over the course, if they rise to the occasion, over the course of the story, the Dharma path, they can find their inner right of sovereignty and their ability to rule themselves and perhaps help to rule others who are in need of a good leader. So, with all of that said, the first one I have here is Heath Ledger playing William Thatcher in A Knight's Tale. He starts off the movie as a kind of like a, what is it a squire or a servant to an actual night, but the night like falls asleep, and it's just not very good, and we learned early on that Thatcher is really talented, jousting, but he can't compete because of his lowly social status. But his good character takes him throughout the movie, eventually to the point where an actual prince dubs him a knight, and this can be seen as an externalization of this inner right of sovereignty. But if we look at it symbolically, it's sort of like, even though by title by birth, this character wasn't considered to be of high-ranking, nightly social status. He found that throughout the course of the story, he competed and sort of overthrew the corrupt leader, the corrupt king at the time. For me, this story is like textbook Aries rising like I just like there's a bad king, this guy is a knight Mars, and it just, I think, if you're looking for a place to start, I think this is maybe the best, I also just really like it. So that's the first one for me, and then my other one is Brie Larson playing Captain Marvel in Captain Marvel. This character starts off the film with one idea of herself and her past. But over the course of the film, she returns to us like she starts off in space with this one species, and she is under the tutelage of this figure played by Jude Law, but then she lands back on Earth, discovers a family that was hers before a friend and the daughter. So-called platonic, but I think it was a family that she had. But then we find out that she lost her memory, and as she regains that, she learns that she was taken control of by Jude Law. When she regains the knowledge of who she actually is, she rebels against him, kind of putting him down, not literally, but she wins the fight against him and does some good, very heroic stuff. I think that that is also indicative of the era story is that, to me, it's the most straightforward hero's journey, like in terms of what a hero is, it's like, you know, starts off in one space of maybe confusion and being controlled, and then they gain control, and they do good stuff. It's like very simple. It's the one, it's Aries, and I think that these two films really show that. So Adam's first is also Brie Larson.

Adam Elenbaas 23:45
Oh, yeah, this one movie, if you saw it, is a hard one to stomach. It was. This movie was called Room, and Brie Larson basically plays a woman who's been abducted. She has a child that is living in this room that her captor? Is that the right word? Yeah. Her captor keeps her in along with a child that she's conceived out of his taking advantage of her while she's his prisoner. So it's a really dark story, and it's about her attempt to escape and to sort of reclaim her sovereignty, which has been completely stripped from her, of course, by a tyrannical father figure who is in the film is called Old Nick, and is the father of her son, who is also her captor and tormentor and she ends up again the sacrifice of the son theme, the child, she ends up he ends up faking his sickness going, and this is spoiler alert, in order to escape leaving in a truck to get him to a hospital because he's faking sickness and then he has to escape from the truck and but then the film goes on because it's really then about how she adjusts and adapts to life and being free, which as it turns out, is really difficult, similar to some of the themes in Shawshank Redemption, by the way, that there's a way in which the freedom is both physical at times, and also mental and emotional. It's about recovering your sovereignty and embodying it. It's not, you know, it's not enough to just get free. There's, there's trauma that has to be dealt with, and there are issues about fatherhood too. There are people who want her to reject her son because of where he came from, and that plays a huge role in the story after they get free from the room. So this idea of the Divine Right of sovereignty, that is not tied or tethered to our patronage, like to our father, or to the paternal, and that has to free itself from a tyrannical father or sky god, or captor or something like that. Huge, really important in that movie. Yeah.

Emma Frey 26:21
That's a tough one.

Adam Elenbaas 26:24
That's a heavy one, for sure. That's a heavy movie. I watched it. I was like, Ooh, I didn't know I was getting into this one tonight.

Adam Elenbaas 26:33
The next one is not any easier, and it's Jon Voight and deliverance. I don't know if you guys have ever seen that movie. It's a great thriller. Like I will say, it holds up. I watched it only a few years ago again since I watched it, you know, when I was a kid, and I think, when did it come out? 1972. Right. But it holds it holds up as a very thrilling and terrifying survival thriller, where they're basically a group of friends backpacking in the Appalachian Mountains, I think, down south somewhere, and it's basically a bunch of psychotic, deranged country-dwelling Neanderthals, or what to call and they're just like, crazy people living out in the woods, that end up chasing them and trying to kill them, and it's all about survival and it is, there are a number of scenes of that movie, I will not repeat, but that have to do with violation as a major theme and also the attempt to blot out your life. I have power over you; I have dominion over you like a captor or like a king that says, well, you're born a peasant, so you have no nothing, nothing pushed you down, and the whole movie is really about that. I mean, it couldn't have been named. The title is perfect deliverance. It has to do with the sovereign experience of freedom and the right to live and the need to survive and exercise one's will to stand up and claim life and a huge part of deliverance even though it's just kind of a, at this point, it's kind of an old thriller, but that's what John Boyd's character is all about Aries risings.

Emma Frey 28:15
Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's so good. I love that about the title. That's, that's so good. Yeah. Okay, and then we have the last theme, which is reemergence of the solar father figure. Light phase wise, we've been in the dark half of the year, which you can think of the darkness as feminine if we're thinking about universes young, and so when we're bringing the father back, it's the reemergence of the masculine if you correspond the masculine with the light, which is traditionally done. So, my first pick for this one is James Dean in Rebel Without a Cause. I think his character's name is Shem. This character doesn't literally become a father. But in many ways, otherwise, he does. He starts off the movie, for those who don't know, being pretty upset with his parents, his father, especially because, as he says outright, he says that his father is not standing up to his mother. It's, you know, the film is old, but there's this sense that the father isn't being a father isn't being a good leader, isn't being a good role model for the son, and Jim tells him that, and that happens the father isn't do anything situation stays the same. James Dean's character finds friends in Natalie Wood and Sal Mineo, and they develop this very clear little family unit in which James Dean's character plays the father and Natalie Woods's character plays the mother, so many of us the kid, and it's almost like this play-acting helps to reorient what's happening with James Dean's character's actual family. He's sort of fixing it the way that kids can do when they're playing. Fixing what is happening in reality with this, this, he's becoming the father that he didn't have, essentially in this play-acting. He's learning how to do it. He's a really helpful friend to Sal Mineo, who's his son, and he becomes this, this father figure for them, and then for himself, and at the end, his actual father sees reason, but it only happened because James Dean took up the mantle himself to do it. It's a great movie. I would highly recommend it if you haven't seen it. My last pick is Looper, which is a time-travel movie. I love time travel movies and Star Wars. Aries Rising Joseph Gordon Levitt starts off the movie as this assassin who kills people from the future because they need people in the past to kill people from the future until his self comes back. Bruce Willis, his older self, and his older self is trying to kill this little boy who later becomes a villain in the future. Joseph Gordon Levitt finds that little boy and his mother, played by Emily Blunt, and basically acts as the father figure that they don't have and they need because he protects the boy from his older self tells movies, it's so confusing, but he protects the boy by sacrificing himself. There are a lot of metaphorical layers in that, I think, and I think it actually corresponds pretty directly to the myth of the Golden RAM. The sacrifice for a child that is about to be murdered by this corrupt figure. It's really interesting, and yeah, it's this idea for both stories that it's not an actual father. It's not literal. It can be so many different things. This is a family leader, a strong, caring, loving, wise, and light figure. So that's what I have, and then Adam has my favorite example, which is

Adam Elenbaas 32:50
the Joker. Yes, absolutely, and I think let's hold on just one second. I wanted to, so Heath Ledger, obviously, played the Joker in what was it? 2000 What year was it? 2008. Yeah, it was a while ago now. So yeah, and one of the reasons that I like this is because you will often have with Aries rising, the character arc will often involve trying to rise up and develop your own sovereignty, as we mentioned in the second part of this, and sort of the development or emergence of a, it's almost like sometimes it needs to you need to oust an unhealthy father figure and reclaim that sovereignty. However, what can happen along the way is that there can be this theme of if you've been hurt, disillusion, disappointed, push down, you can become a rebel, you can become a tyrant, you can become an anarchist, essentially, I remember when I was reading Liz Greene's mythology of the signs in her famous book, the astrology of fate and I remember the first time I read this, and I was like, Oh my gosh, this makes a lot of sense. But she was saying one of the biggest tests for Aries is to not become like a domineering bully that at one point bullied them, and so sometimes, you have these sort of tragic Aryan figures who were pushed down by an authority and then rebelled wildly and their mythology is, in some ways, resistant to but simultaneously embodied that which at some point suppress them and that's the Joker. Who is, we don't know exactly what or who harmed him, but it's very clear that someone did and that he is he thinks that authority figures are hypocrites. He thinks that people like Batman are two-faced, and you know, he fundamentally distrusts anything calling itself a positive solar figure, and so his character, although it's sort of a tragic one, represents the anarchy of someone wrapped up in an oppositional relationship with that solar authority figure and that's a very, it's very similar to rebel without a cause, in a sense that James Dean's character has some rebellious tendencies and disillusionment and disappointment and recklessness in common with the Joker, though they're really they're totally different characters and have different arcs in some ways. But yeah, so that that's, I think, I think Heath Ledger as the Joker, is, there's some reason why everyone loved that so much. It's because we can all sympathize. There's, there's probably in all of us been an eight-year-old who's tried to plot the demise of our parents, you know?

Emma Frey 36:07
Yeah, and it's not always... I think I just said that it's like Aries is the most cut-and-dry Hero's Journey, hero's story, but it's not always like that. The mythology can play out in heroes and villains.

Adam Elenbaas 36:23
So it really, like, I think, in, you know, back in, in grad school when I was studying, like literary theory and stuff, like he's an anti-hero, you know, and, and in very much like, I would be curious to see if any of the, the anti-heroines that have been read played in Disney stories, for example. You know, it'd be interesting to look at some of those patterns, like, what was it? Maleficent? You know what I'm talking about? The, Sleeping Beauty, the retelling of those where it's like, now, let's see what the queen, the evil Queen's perspective was or whatever. Right? There's, we're fascinated with anti-heroes because we sympathize with with the point at which they went bad. We understand that the reason that a lot of them went bad is because they were bullied or harmed. Yeah.

Emma Frey 37:07
Yeah. Great point. All right.

Adam Elenbaas 37:12
The last one, this one, is probably the hardest one to explain. It's been a while since I saw this movie. It's just a little indie movie, but it featured Taylor Schilling, who's an Aries rising. Heath Ledger, of course, was, too, in case people are missing that connection. But I think it's pretty obvious at this point. But Taylor Schilling, also an Aries rising, is in this movie called Stay, which came out in 2013. It's basically a movie about a young girl who has issues with her parents and seeks out a relationship with an older man who, in some ways, is like a surrogate father. But this older man and she are living in this little Irish village if I remember correctly, but anyway, the village disapproves of their relationship because their age gap is so great. So he's sort of like a father. She becomes pregnant. He immediately is like, Nope, I want nothing to do with being a father. This is like this crucible for their relationship, which is then the heart of the movie. And it really has to do with themes of redeeming the father figure and looking at paternal responsibility. And there are backstories, with children and fathers, that play a big role in the development of the story. Ultimately, I think what you could say is that this story is about moving from problems and fears around the solar mantle of responsibility, that you know that there's something about that. Remember, the sun is exalted in Aries. So we think about the dignities of the planets associated. So one of the hero's journeys is the heroic journey of fostering something young and taking care of it, and raising it up, you know, helping raise it up toward the light. And this has to do with the disappointments and losses around fatherhood, around parenting, in general, raising the light of the child and around the redemption of those roles and themes.

Emma Frey 39:28
So good. Yeah, thank you for calling out the exultation. I think that is actually really helpful in understanding all of this. Yeah. And that's it. There's my face and my socials.

Adam Elenbaas 39:47
I can get out of here, but I'm looking we put that back up for just a second so I can say a few nice things about you. Okay, so first of all, I just want to thank you so much for coming on and sharing your magic because you are a magical Person, A man, a Magical astrologer, and just a really insightful noticer of patterns. And I just really want people to know about you, to know your work, and to follow you. So you will be completely amazed if you check out her work, Emma's work, @patternsinthestars on Instagram; that's where she's gonna share her pattern finding of physiognomy facial profiles and other interesting things. And I like that the way you do it, you just say, These people have this in common. Here are two pictures of them, where you can see a similar energy or a similar expression. It's not just the faces, right? It's about the expressions. And it's about the energies that you can really feel from a person's photograph, which is a projection on the wall of the cave, right? And so I just think your work is where I hope astrology will keep going, which is in a creative direction that celebrates pattern finding, pattern recognition, and the magic of a symbolic language that can help us see myths and archetypes in things like, you know, Hollywood movies, the actors that portray them. I mean, how people sometimes say, oh, you know, you can't, their rising sign has nothing to do with the roles they play the hell it doesn't. You know what I mean? It, of course, it does. The roles that people play in Hollywood will often reflect not just the rising sign because you see a lot of that but sometimes other placements in their charts, too. The rising sign, though, is consistent and reliable in the way that you present it. It is just so useful. And I'm so excited to take this through the rest of the signs because we're going to come back into Taurus next, right? Yeah, yep. Okay, awesome. Well, you're a little shy. You have Venus in the 12th house. I just need to pour some light on your creative endeavors so that people see it.

Emma Frey 41:58
I also have mercury Saturn, so...

Adam Elenbaas 42:02
I do, too. I have Mercury-Saturn, but I also happen to have it square to Jupiter. So I can say a lot to Mars in Gemini, too, in my chart, so I have the gift of gab. Emma, thank you so much for being here. We really, really appreciate you. It's so nice to have you on the show. And I can't I can't wait for Taurus. Next, we're going to be looking at the mythology of Taurus, which will explain, and then we will be breaking down some of the stories that Taurus rising actors and actresses have played and how those themes are embodied in the roles that they've played. And we're going to do this for every sign. And you are really like one of the things that I've been doing. And I've been telling people about this, as I've been making videos lately. One of my goals for the years ahead is to really use my channel to build the work of people in astrology whom I really admire. And so you're sort of helping us pioneer a new way of using the channel because you're someone whose work I really like. And I hope that people watching this series will follow you and that your work will grow as a result. So that's the intention behind this. So you guys all go out and follow Emma @patternsinthestars on Instagram. And then, by the way, don't forget, as we are coming closer to the new year now, we're still trying to hit our goal of 17 177 backers by New Year's Eve for our annual Kickstarter; we thank you so much to everyone who's already pitched in. If you have not pitched in, you can find the link to the Kickstarter pinned to the top of the comments section or in the description of this video. When you go over there and you pledge, you support this channel; you support all the good things that we're doing. And our whole team that is behind the production of all of this work as well. You can pick up a reward, such as class passes that are on sale. We have some readings and different recordings that are there. So check them out. Help us support the channel in the year ahead, and we really appreciate it. Okay, on that note, we'll see you guys next time. Thanks again, Emma. Thanks