Today, I am joined by my friends and colleagues, Alex and Dana, to break down your Sun and Rising sign horoscopes for the month of December. We’ll explore two major transits this month through all 12 whole sign horoscopes: Mars retrograde in the sign of Leo and the Jupiter-Saturn square occurring between Gemini and Pisces.
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Chapters: Horoscopes for December 2024
26:01 Aries Horoscope
31:39 Taurus Horoscope
40:41 Gemini Horoscope
45:49 Cancer Horoscope
53:19 Leo Horoscope
59:46 Virgo Horoscope
1:10:20 Libra Horoscope
1:14:11 Scorpio Horoscope
1:19:56 Sagittarius Horoscope
1:25:47 Capricorn Horoscope
1:31:10 Aquarius Horoscope
1:36:57 Pisces Horoscope
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Hey everyone, this is Adam Elenbaas from Nightlight Astrology, and today I am joined by my friends and colleagues, Alex and Dana, to break down your sun and rising sign horoscopes for the month of December. We are going to be looking at two major transits for the month of December through all 12 whole sign horoscopes. These transits are Mars' retrograde in the sign of Leo and the Jupiter-Saturn square that is taking place between the signs of Gemini and Pisces. These two transits are the major events of the month, and we’ll explore what you can expect from them.
We recommend listening for your rising sign, as that will correspond to the whole sign house transits of your birth chart. Of course, Hellenistic astrologers use the whole sign house system, which is why we recommend it. However, you can listen to whatever sign you prefer. If you like to listen to your sun sign, feel free to do that. So, there are options! That’s our agenda for today. Remember, before we get into it, to like and subscribe—it really helps our channel grow. Thank you to everyone who has been supporting the channel. In the past couple of months, we’ve doubled our subscriber total per month, and that’s thanks to all of you helping make this channel successful.
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On that note, I’m very excited to have Alex and Dana back to break down your horoscopes for the month ahead. Hey guys!
Alex: Hi!
Dana: Hello!
Adam: Pluto’s back in Aquarius, the election is over, and the night of doom is at hand!
Dana: Let’s just go there.
Adam: I’m just kidding! It’s funny how, after the election results, the kinds of comments and questions I’ve been getting have shifted.
Alex: Well, Mars is in my first house right now, so I’m hitting the gym, taking a stand for my own individual sovereignty, and just generally trying not to scream. That’s what I’ve been experiencing. But no, I agree with you, Adam. One thing I’ve heard, watching some YouTube videos and listening to predictions on the election, is the common thread of finding your people—finding your tribe, making individual connections. It’s about finding the people you can relate to and connect with. It feels like the essence of Aquarius—“In and of myself, I am nothing.” If I’m trying to do this on my own, it’s really hard. But when I can connect with people who share similar interests, that feels like the intention of Aquarius moving forward. It might not manifest exactly how we thought it would, but it’s definitely something I’ve been considering for myself: Where’s my tribe, and who am I connecting with?
Dana: Yeah, I think that’s really important, especially for anyone feeling alienated right now. I know a lot of people are struggling with the results in America, right?
Dana: Adam, you just made me think about something I hadn’t considered before—maybe the shadow of Pluto in Aquarius is an overwhelming amount of information. We’ve been experiencing this in the digital age, but after the election, I found myself immersing myself in it, wanting to understand everything. There came a point where I realized this wasn’t helping—it was just making me spiral. I think the antidote to that is what you were saying, Alex. We need to ground ourselves in real life with real people. I was lucky to do a live event recently, where I did live readings for the first time in person. My friends and my sister came out, and it was so healing to be with people again. It reminded me that we can’t get swept up in the tidal wave of hot takes and lose ourselves.
Adam: Yeah, I agree. I think one of the things I read in a video about Pluto’s entrance into Aquarius was from James Hillman, who gave a lecture on animism. In his talk, he was addressing the tendency for us to get swept up in viewing reality in a linear, historical way. We tend to think we’re all on the same timeline, where everything either gets worse or better. Hillman challenged this by saying that in an animistic worldview, time isn’t viewed as a linear progression. For example, if you get a cat, keep it for 13 years, and then get another cat, you won’t compare the two cats in terms of which one is better or worse. Instead, you’ll see them as different, living beings. When we lack an animistic view, we compare moments in time as better or worse, rather than understanding them as living, breathing experiences. This is especially important when it comes to the news cycle and the way we get overly identified with the historical arcs that we’re a part of. Sometimes, you have to step back and reconnect with the present moment.
Alex: That’s such a great point, Adam. We went to an amazing exhibit at the planetarium and Museum of Science this weekend, called “One Sky.” It explored how different indigenous societies and Western cultures understand the sky. One of the things they highlighted was how time was conceptualized differently by various cultures. For example, the Navajo understood time as a series of emergences, rather than a linear timeline. This made me think of what you said, Adam, about how we view time differently—sometimes, it’s not about progress but about how we hold our experiences in our minds.
Adam: Exactly! And it made me think about the pressure we put on ourselves to make progress when we discover something new scientifically. We often think, “Can this make things better? If it can, let’s do it as quickly as possible.” That urgency to improve things is common, but the shadow of that thinking is that we can forget to stop, digest our experiences, and reflect. Sometimes, the lesson is to pause and let things unfold, rather than forcing progress.
Dana: Progress isn’t always the point, though. Sometimes, we need to stop and reflect, like you said, Adam.
Adam: Exactly. These reflections have been brought to you by a group of astrologers whose opinions are worth a couple of pennies.
Alex: This is my one and a half cents! But for astrology students, this is a very Aquarius conversation. What does progress mean? Are we moving forward? Are we moving in the right direction?
Adam: Right. So, we’ve got a different season ahead to consider, not necessarily better or worse, just a new season. Mars is retrograde in Leo, and we also have the Jupiter-Saturn square. I’ve talked about Mars retrograde on the channel before, but it offers a chance to work with our sense of willpower, motivation, agency, assertiveness, and even anger. Mars retrograde is a chance to refine our relationship with these energies. It’s a good time to explore where we might be avoiding Mars' energy, as some of us are afraid of getting it wrong or hurting someone, but it’s only through confronting Mars that we learn how to work with it.
Dana: I think Mars retrograde is about pausing and assessing. It’s not necessarily about progress right now, but about reflecting on what you truly want. We’ll also see Mars retrograde back into Cancer, which will get us to the root of some feelings. I think December is a time for stillness and introspection, rather than rushing forward.
Alex: I love that, Dana. Mars retrograde is about surrendering your will and allowing something bigger to carry you along. There’s a time to push forward and make things happen, but sometimes the more effective approach is to let go of control and see where the process takes you.
Adam: Yes, Mars retrograde can help us let go of old conflicts. If something isn’t working, instead of continuing to force it, we might find a more powerful and effective way to move forward if we simply release control. It’s like the art of war, or even jiu-jitsu, where sometimes, the best move is to let go and let the process unfold.
Alex: That’s exactly it! Sometimes you have to allow yourself to be submitted, learn from it, and then start again.
Adam: That’s right! So, the other thing
Dana Solana
When I was thinking about this second of the three squares we're going to get here with Jupiter and Saturn, it brought back the idea of frustration that I was thinking about with Mars. There's a potential, as we're going through this shifting that you both have been talking about, to feel frustrated. Especially with Mars here too, like maybe it feels like a lack of progress, or like, here's the ideal, here's the reality. There's dissonance between them, and that is upsetting to me.
So, it just really reinforced, for me, the idea that this is a time of surrender, of letting go, of seeing what's happening, so that we can just kind of let that guide us. And I think that’s hard for people, but that’s what the moment is calling for.
Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, nicely put. Well, I think we've done some good reflecting on events that have happened since we last came together, and some nice looking forward at these transits generally. So let's go into them, sign by sign. We always recommend listening to your rising sign, because that will correspond with the whole sign house version of your birth chart. That's where the transit is actually located in your birth chart right now. Of course, you can always listen to your sun sign. Just listen to that sign if you prefer it.
Alright, I'm going to put the real-time clock up, and we are going to begin. Dana will be taking the cardinal signs. I'll be taking fixed, and Alex will be taking mutable. They're also called Tropical, Solid, and Double Bodied. We may refer to them that way sometimes. But here we go with Aries. So we're going to be looking at Mars' retrograde in the fifth house, and we're looking at the application of Jupiter and Saturn across the third and 12th. For Aries, Dana, what do you think about this one?
Dana Solana
Okay, the first thing I thought about was Saturn in the 12th. You know, this has been going on for a little while now, but I've been thinking for Aries about cutting yourself off before you can begin. Like, where has that been coming up for you over these last couple of years? And with this square coming through, with Jupiter, thinking about Jupiter representing the ideal or the expansive principle, there's something different you want to be doing, maybe in your daily life. The way you move about your daily life, maybe your environment you are looking to change. Maybe this is something with your siblings or some kind of communication that you've just got ideas for. I think you've got ideas in that area of life, these third house topics.
But there's something kind of like cutting you off at the root with Saturn in the 12th, so I think that this is a time where you could understand that more deeply. And what's interesting to me about this is, you know, Mars, obviously very important for you. Aries risings, is in your fifth house right now, trining the first house. I think this is a really good time to look at projects you've abandoned and see why. Not to go back and figure out how to finish them necessarily right now, because, as we've been saying, I don’t know that that's what this energetic moment calls for. Although, if that's what makes sense, do it.
I think this could be a really great time to understand why you've— I don’t want to say abandoned, because that's a strong word, and I don’t want to shame anybody—but like, why you let these projects go. These things you want to create, these things you want to build, if you've had trouble really getting them going. Now could be a time where you could really understand why, and my suspicion is that we could kind of link it back to Saturn in the 12th and where you might be kind of containing yourself unnecessarily. So, I think that's kind of what we have to work through right now. And you could get a lot of clarity around what's been stopping you. Nice.
Alex Amorosi
I think, you know, it's interesting too, that now with this, I'm looking at this Mars Retrograde in your fifth house, too, for Aries rising, then your ascendant ruler. And this may feel, especially with the North Node in your first house, like you got some gas back in the tank. You've stepped on the gas pedal, you're creating, you're going forward. It's all looking great. And then you hit around December 7, December 8, and Mars stations and turns retrograde. And it's like, but I've got, you know, just a little bit more to review before I do that.
There might be a little like, you need to let your pressure valve off a little bit here, because there might be some real built-up steam in the engine to go forward, but it's not quite ready to go all the way forward yet. And that North Node, especially in your first house, is going to be really asking for the gas pedal. So just allowing, if it feels like there's a review process or having to go back over something, or there's some emotional or energetic loose end that's not quite tied up yet, that's okay.
And it's okay for there to be a pause there, but for an Aries rising, the challenge often is to let go of the impetus to want to push even further forward. Because I could see that leading to just grinding your gears around this.
Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, I look at the fact that that Mars Retrograde in your fifth house is going to go through these series of oppositions to Pluto in the beginning of the year and the beginning of the new year, as well as later down the line in the spring. And I just think compromise. Because the fifth house Mars is very much like the right to be me and the right to express myself in ways that are powerful and effective, creatively satisfying, unique, and special.
The oppositional tension from Pluto in Aquarius might be saying something like, there's going to be some need to compromise with other people or with groups or with a greater social awareness of yourself as belonging to different communities or groups of people, or even a field or industry that you belong to, or something like that. So, I could see this as being about increasing sensitivity, because the North Node is also about to dip into Pisces in your 12th house.
That Saturn kind of checking Jupiter in the third, as well as Mars Retrograde, just makes me think greater sensitivity—heightened awareness to things that are outside the scope of your own personal agenda, or your own kind of character. And it's unique, you know, but you may need to be more sensitive or aware of other people and greater realities than yourself, which might force some difficult compromises. Some of them maybe you shouldn’t compromise with, but others may require a kind of sensitive, tactful modulation of your will and the reality of other people's wills.
Alright, let's move along to Taurus rising. I've got the fixed signs, so I'm starting off with Mars Retrograde in the fourth, as a Taurus rising myself. One thing that has really been on my mind a lot, and I'll just share a little personal story.
So, as Mars is slowing down to station, as we're recording this, I've been really revising some of the subtle ways in which I work out. So this is like, you know, the approach that I take to training. And I've recognized that some of the way in which I train reminds me of my grandpa, who was a Leo, and the fourth house, of course, is connected to home, family, karma.
He was a Leo and a big Mars square Sun guy and stuff like that. So I just am like, wow, some of the way I'm training resembles some of the work— I don't know what I would call it—like a workaholism or a stubbornness around how to work that my grandpa had. And that I've been shifting my approach to working more intensely but less, right? So like, fewer but more focused workouts, and I've just thought, Man, my grandpa never would have been able to do this, right?
And so I'm just sitting there going like, yeah, I'm retraining elements of how I use my will, frustration, anger, how I think something can get accomplished through will and effort, and I'm revising it along some really deep ancestral lines. It seems like a really simple thing, but for me, this carries over into the way that I work as an astrologer, the way that I work in other areas of my life, and thinking to myself, there's a different way of working, and realizing that this is ancestral.
So, that's what I'm anticipating. I'm actually really excited because I feel like this shift is one that could lead me to being healthier and happier and, in a sense, working less. And so I'm just sitting there going like, wow. You know, for people who have Mars in the fourth house retrograde, there's potential to almost dismantle old power structures that are somewhere in your psyche from the ancestral past.
That's what I've been working with already. I anticipate that lots of Tauruses will be working around willpower, power work, and the family background, the family karma in particular. I think of paternal figures with Mars in Leo. But look, it could be anyone in the family. I also think about old wounds, old hurts. I think about, you know, I've been having dreams about my grandfather's war experiences as soon as Mars entered Leo. So, it was a lot there.
But I also think about the fact that you've got Jupiter and Uranus. This is the second piece here. Let me actually highlight it so we can see it. So anyway, I think about that change of will or purpose in relation to family karma as a Mars in the fourth house kind of thing for Tauruses.
Then Jupiter Saturn across the 11th and the second. I think about things like business and community. I think about things like assets, resources, and friends, groups, and allies. You know, how are you shifting or changing the use of your skills, your resources, your time, your money, your energy? And how are those changes being informed by the various social groups or communities that you belong to?
So one of the things, like, again, just to reflect on this, I think it's really interesting that as Saturn and Jupiter were coming together in August, we were putting together the donation-based reading service that we launched just recently. And really, the first month or two of it launching is coming as these two planets are coming back together.
So it's been about community awareness and a shift around the business itself and the structure of the business and stuff like that. So that's how I've been experiencing Jupiter Saturn across the 11th and second since August. So I think that's kind of neat. But shifts around community groups and things like money resources, how the two are connected. What kind of allies make for good allies when it comes to things like earning money? Those are some of the things that come to my mind. What do you guys think?
Dana Solana
That's so interesting? Adam, I think now that you've said that about the Jupiter-Saturn dynamic as, like, having a responsibility to your communities, I've got this thing that I have, I've got these resources—Jupiter in the second. I maybe have abundance. And, I mean, I know it's Jupiter in Gemini in detriment, but like, you've got things to offer, and Saturn in the 11th says you have a responsibility, maybe to your friends, to the communities you're a part of—like share the wealth. So I don't know, that's what came to my mind as you were talking. And I love that. That's a best-case scenario. I think what you said about Mars in the fourth, and I love thinking about Mars Retrograde as an opportunity to, you know, heal old wounds. And, gosh, what did you say about working smarter, not harder? Like, I don't have to effort so hard to make things happen?
Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, that's exactly it. I don't think I said that phrase, but that's the one I was looking for. That is the one that's like, my trainer came along and said, I got a new trainer, and I started a new program. And he was like, you know, you're working out for 90 minutes, but if you work out like this, you can work out for 45 minutes and get the same results. And I was like, at first, I was like, I don't know... You know, my Cancer Moon is like, "It's not good if it's not hard and long!" But I tried it, and I was like, He's not kidding. And anyway, what I find interesting about him—one of his backgrounds is in the military, but he used to be in Special Forces, which is like an incredibly highly disciplined and effective unit in the military. Super nice guy, like a teddy bear, nice, but very good at knowing how to work smarter, not harder. So that's been Mars in the fourth for me so far. But anyway, you tell me more. What do you think, Alex?
Alex Amorosi
I don't know, you know, I love this, because I keep feeling, as an overarching energy here, kind of the forces of history. There's this... and individuating from those, especially from our ancestral lines, is challenging stuff. And I think, for, you know, one thing I'm noticing here for Taurus rising, for a Venus-ruled sign, Venus-ruled signs tend to be other-focused, harmony-focused, unity-focused—making everything balanced in some way. Harmonizing. This Mars Retrograde in your Uranus in your first house, and, you know, Saturn squaring Jupiter here, there's something about it to me that, in a general sense, says, "Really carve, like Michelangelo carving out the David." I don't want to get too dramatic here, but it's like discovering what was the you that's already been inside, underneath a lot of stuff that may have been on top of it—that was being nice or other-focused, or making sure other people were happy or they were in harmony. And it's just like, Mars Retrograde in the fourth house, to me, is like, "Who am I in relationship to myself?" You know, Uranus definitely in the first house has that feeling, and I think that that has a big effect with Saturn in a superior position, squaring Jupiter in the second. On one hand, there will be obligations to other people, and that's an inevitable part of life if we want to have a sort of abundance with integrity and stuff like that. But not to lose, not to let that override your own sense of individuality that's trying to emerge and push out of that in some way. Yeah.
Adam Elenbaas
I do think Mars Retrograde can lead to super mundane things in the fourth house, like having to replace a heater. I don’t know, it’s like something about the pipes and the heating comes to my mind, or like something around, you know, home maintenance or repair. It’s inevitable when something turns retrograde in the fourth house that something will literally have to do with your home, your property, or living environment. So I would watch for some of that, too. But also, I think you have to look at this also as like a deeply ancestral transit for Tauruses. All right, let's move forward to Geminis. Alex will take this one. I'll highlight here. We've got Saturn and Jupiter there, and Mars Retrograde in the third, so...
Alex Amorosi
This is interesting for Gemini risings. I feel like there’s, you know, in your environment... And I keep coming back to this: what’s around you every day, even in your mind? What feels like it is giving you the ability to assert, move forward, stand out, be your own sort of bright, shining light? And then where does it feel like there may be people who are like that? And it could verge, with Mars in Leo, into: are there people around you that are trying to contain you or box you in with their egos or their assertiveness or their energy just getting really big? There's a sort of need for, in that, for I think Saturn at the top of your chart and Jupiter in your first house, but especially Saturn at the top of the chart, to sort of have a sense of your image in the world, having gravitas, having power, having seriousness, having weight. It’s not always, I think, for Geminis that there’s always a sense of, especially with Jupiter in that sign, “I’m this light, child of Hermes, and I want to fly, I want to experiment, I want to try.” But there’s something here, to me, that says Saturn—especially Saturn moving direct and in superior position to Jupiter—maybe asking for some amount of gravitas. It’s the word I keep coming back to. Something where you say, “You know, this is a very solid presentation of myself and my image in the world,” coming about from in your environment. It could be, on the shadow side of it, feeling attacked, or it could be on the healthier, lighter side of it, just feeling like you’re being sort of pushed out into shining a little bit more, standing out a little bit more individually in your environment, and not losing the wonderful playfulness that makes Gemini so wonderful, but also recognizing sometimes there’s a time to just move into the world and your surroundings and be seen with some seriousness and gravitas and responsible Saturn-feeling type words like that. Love that.
Dana Solana
You made me think, Alex, about the phrase, "Take a stand." I feel like Jupiter in the first, there’s been so much experimentation of like, "Who am I? Who do I want to be?" This square with Saturn says, like, "Be about it." Like, embody that. Be it. But Mars in the third is saying, like, there’s some kind of confrontation, maybe? I thought about that particular placement of Mars reminded me of my first teaching job ever, and it was in an environment that was quite antithetical to my identity, right? Like, I just felt like an outsider frequently, but it was like, oh god, I’m not going to think of the phrase, but the thing where it’s like the pressure cooker? Maybe something like that—it forced me to take a stand in some ways. So I think that something might kind of come together with all the Jupiterian experimentation that’s been going on for Geminis in the first house with this.
Adam Elenbaas
Yeah, I wonder what... I mean, Jupiter in Gemini in the first house feels like giving oneself permission to really expand and explore your own nature. And Saturn in Pisces in the tenth feels like it wants you to take that exploration and make sure that you’re doing something very responsible with it. And it may even guilt-trip or make you feel obligated or sort of held back from doing some of that. And I think there’s a conversation to be had about whether I need to change, or whether my career needs to change, or whether the two need to change together. Does the career need to change to fit more of who I am, or do I need to change a little bit to, you know, adapt better and fit in better at my work? Or I could see those kinds of conversations happening. And then I feel like there are pretty significant changes coming in the longer run. I look across at Mars opposite Pluto in the third and the ninth, and obviously, we’re going to have a conjunction for Geminis later in 2025 from the northern hemisphere standpoint, with Uranus entering Gemini, trining Pluto in the ninth. And I think, yeah, this is also about beliefs and your philosophy and your outlook on life, or learning something new and adapting yourself to new ideas or something like that. And it’s important that ideological or philosophical conflicts be allowed—find healthy space for them, because they’re going to inform an ongoing process of identity transformation that really ramps up later in the year. Yeah, okay. Good for Gemini. All right, let’s go to Cancer, and Dana will lead us off. Here, we’ve got the Jupiter-Saturn dynamic across the 12th and 9th with Mars retrograding in your second.
Dana Solana
I am really intrigued by this. Like, this square between Jupiter and Saturn speaks so loudly to like a spiritual process. This deeply alchemical kind of—obviously, Saturn in the ninth, being like, let me get serious about maybe my spirituality, or what matters to me, my basic operating principles, what do I stand for? And Jupiter in the 12th, just being this deep contemplation. I know a square is maybe a more... well, not maybe, it is a more challenging
aspect. But there’s something very productive in my mind about this particular setup that would not look like anything to someone just looking at you. It’s very internal. But the wheels are turning in terms of like, what matters to me, what are my spiritual principles, really? So it just feels like a very meditative, kind of contemplative time for Cancers. When I think about Mars in the second, I think about situations that make you ask, "What do I have at my disposal, and what maybe did I have at my disposal that's not working the way it used to, or isn’t working the way I want it to anymore?" There’s some kind of reflection on like, how I use what I have, which might be informed by this dynamic that’s happening in the 12th and the 9th. Like, my spiritual principles are different. The way I’m seeing the world is different, so the way I use what I have is different. Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking about.
Alex Amorosi
Dana, you know, your reflections on the spiritual idea of between Jupiter and Saturn, so Saturn in the ninth house and Jupiter in the 12th—and one thing I’ve often noticed is you rarely have an astrology client who has Saturn in the ninth house. There’s a sort of... I’ve had like one or two, maybe, maybe. But it’s a little skepticism of a principle that can’t be concretized in some way, you know? And not all the time. There are those who like astrology, who have that, but it’s a signature you don’t often see as an astrologer. And the other thing that it made me think of is the principle in Buddhism that actually drew me into Buddhism, you know, 25 years ago now, which was the Buddha’s emphasis on healthy doubt. Which was this idea of like, you know, don’t just accept My word for something. Don’t just say, take this as being true just because you read it in a book or someone taught it to you, or someone sounds like they’re making it sound very reasonable. Test it out. Work it out for yourself. And there’s something to me here about a contemplative spiritual ideal that you’re wanting to test. You’re wanting to put the pedal to the metal a little bit. You’re wanting to experiment a little and see: does this actually work for me? Is this something I’ve been taught? Maybe it’s from a religious background, or maybe another spiritual background. It could be from even a philosophical background or some kind. And it may be very valid and very beautiful. But is it right for me? Is this something that I can test out in my everyday life and see, “Okay, well, I like this part of it, this part of it, this part doesn’t quite work, this part I’ve seen work, this part I haven’t seen work”? And working out your own sort of individual life philosophy, which could turn out to be any number of different things. But it comes from a kind of questioning or skepticism experimentation.
Adam Elenbaas
It’s interesting that my wife is a Cancer rising, and something that I’ve noticed her going through all throughout the Jupiter-Saturn square, in these two houses, in her own birth chart, has been that things that happen that kind of—and they’ve been just, I’m not going to go into any of them, but I’ll just say that they’ve been like just sort of, “Oh, wow, I wasn’t expecting that. That’s not what I thought it was.” Or something where there’s almost like a perception, and then there’s the reality. And when you look at those perceptions versus the reality of something, the benefit is that it can help you reflect on why you make assumptions in the way that you do. You know, like my wife has been going—it's funny, because that perception that I had, which turns out wasn’t real. This other, you know, this, this is what was real in the situation has caused me to reflect on the assumptions I make. What I assumed was real versus the underlying truth of a situation, and how that’s causing me to reflect on deeper things within myself. Very valuable process, right? But also maddening in the sense that you almost have to go through a kind of cognitive dissonance at times where it’s like, “Wait, What? What is this?” The other thing that comes to my mind is Mars Retrograde in the second can be about a shift or change with respect to money, finances, resources, and also there can be some feeling of powerlessness that comes in around your resources. The other thing that I think about is that in Indian astrology, the second house is related not only to your money, your assets, but it is also related to your family, insofar as your family is a kind of asset—it’s a kind of resource, something that you rely on. And so I was reading an interesting article about this, because a retrograde in the second house can mean that something that you’ve someone that you’ve come to rely on is no longer reliable. I thought that’s a really interesting interpretation of a second house Mars retrograde. So I’ll just throw that in there and note that, if that is the case, isn’t it interesting that Mars will retrograde back into your first house, perhaps asking you to look at what you have that’s available within yourself, that has to be deepened, or you have to intensify the connection to what you have because someone or something else isn’t as reliable any longer? That might be a good thing. That might be a very empowering thing in the end.
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Alex Amorosi
Yeah, hear a lot about self trust there. No, you know, that's one of the best things that I've ever had happen is when people confirm my perceptions, and I say, Thank you for confirming what I saw. Yeah, thank you for validating that I saw that. Because it really does clear up your vision a lot for other things in your life. Yeah,
Adam Elenbaas
yeah, absolutely. Well, I'll take Mars. I'll take the Leo horoscope. Here, Alex, sit back and enjoy
Alex Amorosi
telling my skin's gonna clear up because I have my Mars and Leo zit. Like clockwork, like clockwork.
Adam Elenbaas
Oh my gosh. So yeah, we have Mars in Leo in your first house. I think that for Leos, this is about going through, I mean, first of all, any kind of shift with respect to the actual prana or like life force, or chi, or whatever we want to call it, in your body. Because, to me, when Mars gets into the first house and then it slows down and it Retrogrades, one of the great, the great benefits is to look at your vital energy, look at your life force, and say, How am I using it is, you know, we need, like a strong fire of digestion, for example. And we need to, we need to move our body and move our blood and stuff like that. And I think Mars Retrograde can heighten the awareness of what we need to do to be running with full energy, life force, energy, not just getting more work done or something like that, but like, how do we feel vital? How do we feel alive? And what revisions or shifts or changes can we make so that we're increasing the feeling of vitality that comes to my mind with Mars Retrograde in the first also just questions about, yeah, am I? Am I being a powerful, creative agent in the world? Do I feel empowered, confident, bold? Am I exploring the shadows like aggression or air? Against or dominance or something like that. I don't think a lot of people listening to this are going to be like that. But, you know, there's an unconscious side maybe there that has to be explored also. How do I deal with conflicts, right, Mars, opposite Pluto across the first and seventh Can I can I manage to work through difficult or tense situations with other people without losing myself, but also without giving too much away. You know, it's kind of, it's like, don't give too much away. Don't be, don't be too much. Don't give away too much. You know, both of those things maybe getting worked on the Saturn Jupiter square across the eighth and the 11th for Leo's. Um, that's interesting, because it suggests to me that there are certain soul contracts in your life that are going to limit options. It's like Jupiter in Gemini in the 11th, to me, is like, you know, the cross pollinators in a big field of flowers in the spring or whatever. It's just busy and lots of things happening, lots of possibilities. Saturn in Pisces in the eighth might be saying certain obligations or commitments are going to require that only some of these options are available or are appropriate. Is Saturn holding us back too much? Do we have to kind of break free of of that? Or is Saturn really holding us accountable to certain contracts, certain obligations, certain responsibilities that need to shape or refine the options that we have, socially, professionally, in terms of groups or people that we want to be with or we think are advantageous for us. So I look at there being a kind of a social negotiation that's happening between some really important relationships that we are bound to in love and duty and so forth, and then a bustling field of possibilities in the 11th
Alex Amorosi
Dana. I'll take my reading from you now.
Dana Solana
Okay, great. I got you. I was thinking about how, like the eighth and the 11th are both about your where you fit with others. It has to do with, you know, where stand with other people, and a Leo rising. I always think of as someone who is an individual. They are interested in their unique light and shining, and that is beautiful. I think that the retrograde of Mars and the first might feel frustrating for all of us, but like for Leo especially, it's like I just want to do me like I want to. I have this perception of who I want to be and how I want to spend my time and where I want my energy to go, and yet I have these obligations with other people, so it's navigating that. And if we think back to like, what we said at the beginning of this is maybe a time to just kind of observe and assess, I think the entry point for that with Leo's is like, where am I feeling frustrated about my obligations to other people and why, and that that's like the point for inquiry.
Alex Amorosi
Yeah, I mean that all sounds dead on for my life right now. And, you know, I just to say that I think, you know, putting this in general terms, I'm extrapolating from my own experience right now, but that Saturn Jupiter square has been very interesting because I think it at once makes very apparent what is important. And you need to focus on those soul contracts that it's like, yeah, you know what? I need to invest in this. I need to grow with this. I need to commit with this all very saddened ideas. And just by doing that, there's a negation of certain things that in Gemini, with Jupiter and Gemini, it's like, well, that could be fun, that could find but it's not really like filling you. It's not really giving you any satisfaction. It's not really, you know, something that feels like it's there for the long term. And I think that it's also making the differentiation between soul contracts that you really want to commit, to invest in, deep in and those that are imposing a sense of constriction or restriction because they have their own agenda or they want something from you, it's like, you know when you start going, but I feel bad, or I feel guilty, or, you know, I'm obligated to do this in some way, and so I think that might be the discernment that's coming up, particularly with Mars Getting caught up in a retrograde cycle of like, what, what I really want to invest in, in terms of my connections, my deepening connections, and what, what is actually something I need to set a boundary with, because it's holding me back in some way. That's not, not healthy,
Adam Elenbaas
right? Leo's, good luck.
Virgos. Virgos, you are up next. And we have Mars retrograding in your 12th house, and we have the square from Jupiter and Saturn across 10 and seven.
Alex Amorosi
So it's kind of similar, in a way, you know, looking at the this config. Duration. But what I would say for Virgos is you have this Mars, excuse me, this Mars Retrograde, starting in your 12th house. It may feel like, as you're getting towards the station, which is, I think, December 7, the station retrograde, there's this subconscious, subterranean behind the scenes place in you that's saying, like it's time for me to bust out and be on stage and be, I don't want to be supporting cast. I want to be a Vita. That's what I want to be like, that sort of feeling, right? I want to be main character. And there's something that starts to happen around the retrograde, and then you get the Jupiter Saturn square, you know, kicking in not long after that, where it there's, but there's a feeling like, but if I do that, my relationships, how I'm seeing, it's going to start to constrict me in some way. I'm going to feel bad about it. I'm not going to feel like I'm able to or I'm going to feel, um, I'm going to feel there's a sense of commitment, or whether it's healthy or unhealthy, a sense of restriction, healthy or unhealthy. Because, you know, there can be healthier forms of that that are coming from others, that are imposing their that will on me in some way. So I think one of the things for Virgos that's really interesting, because I think Virgos do tend towards, again, other and being service oriented, and being very much about what another person needs and expects, is having this little bit of like, you know, oh, I'm feeling like I'm really busting out here, and then around the retrograde, maybe reviewing where you're feeling tied or held down or restricted by that sense of obligation, by that sense of like, I'm selfish for doing something for myself. It's not right for me to want to do something for myself, and that you have this wonderful Jupiter in Gemini up at the top of your chart that is also helping you then say, okay, that may be something you're feeling but is there a way to experiment with how you're seen in the world, how you're known in the world, how you're being, how you have been in the world, that doesn't pull you out of your value system, but also allows you to feel free and playful and experimental in some way. Love that I'm
Dana Solana
thinking about the 12th house is Adam. I watched the 12th house workshop a couple months ago. When you did it, I didn't finish it, but it was very good and very helpful, and I remembered what you were I'm not going to say it as eloquently as you did, but just the idea that, you know the 12th house is is moving toward the first. So whatever's happening in the 12th, it's like something that wants to be seen. It's something that is making its way to the first, but doesn't you know. And so I'm thinking about that as I think about Mars in the 12th, knowing that this square is So, as you said, Alex, like it's really about it's not about the the individual. It's about how I'm seen in the world and who I am in my partnerships. But there's this thing happening behind the scenes, there's this thing happening in the 12th that's needling, that's, gosh, forcing you maybe to it's just making you feel a little uncomfortable, I guess, and making you kind of ask some tough questions. I think all of us with this Mars Retrograde like the thing is to surrender. The thing is to let go and see what happens. I think that is underscored for Virgo risings because of where it's at in your chart. There's going to be lots of questions, maybe not a whole lot of answers right this moment. But if you can just like, be with what is, we might get some more information just by observing rather than trying to do more.
Adam Elenbaas
That's an interesting take. I like that. I'm looking at Mars in the 12th and thinking about the feeling of being ineffici like that. I'm struggling because I feel like what I do doesn't work, or what I do doesn't matter or or maybe even feeling like my you know that that internal sense of Mars, whether it's your willpower or your confidence or your sense of strength and pride in yourself as an individual, it feels like it's stuck, or it feels like it is a source of frustration or difficulty. I'm thinking of my Virgo rising daughter, who, as soon as Mars entered the 12th house, I just noticed, like, wow, she's being she's feeling really frustrated often right now, and sort of kind of probing into that, and I noticed, and this is she's just about to turn nine, right? So she's, she's frustrated with the fact that she is a nice person, and therefore has a hard time being assertive when something has reached a certain point where. It's too much for her, like, if her little sister is just way over the top bothering her, and she gets angry or frustrated, she feels terrible about having gotten angry or frustrated. You know what I mean? Like, because she's like, I'm a good person, very virgilizing. So I just think about those struggles with Mars and willpower and strength and force and assertiveness as something of a it's a difficult spot for Virgos to deal with that. I think the other thing that I think is interesting is Saturn in the seventh can be well, Jupiter's in the 10th can also be about the feeling that you're obligated emotionally or karmically or psychologically to other people and their needs or their weaknesses or their ineptitudes that somehow bind and obligate you. Where Jupiter in the 10th might be wanting to be freer, you know, looser, happier, more experimental, and Saturn in the seventh might be saying, No, you can't do that because I'll feel left behind if you do that. Or no, you you can't do that because I don't, I don't like you looking free. It makes me feel insecure. You know what I mean, like? So I've noticed, for example, again, in my nine year old that she has some friends right now that as she's sort of spreading her wings socially, are getting really needy, right because they've been BFFs and that kids go through this, right? This is normal. It's not like anything spectacular. I just think it's interesting that it's happening as Saturn and Jupiter are tightening in her 10th and her seventh. It's like she wants to expand, and certain relationships are feeling more threatened by that. Yeah, wow, that's really interesting. So anyway, just two two different takes to add into the mix. Hopefully this gives you all a lot to think about with Virgos. Alex, you want to add anything?
Alex Amorosi
No, it's just thinking that that is a big deal for a kid. Those are big things we go through. And it's kind of their world, you know, their whole world revolves around those types of things. And I think it's also, you know, what I hear too, Adam is Mars in the 12th is also hidden power. I feel bad about it. I feel bad. But there's also you know, like, but I'm discovering this too at the same time. Yeah,
Adam Elenbaas
totally. It's funny. I said to her, this is, I think this is something that you guys will appreciate, right? So I'm noticing this transit Mars in Leo. I'm like, Well, you know, there's, in the meantime, the sun is entering Sagittarius, and we're, I'm thinking about dad, right? I mean, I'm like, I'm her dad. So Mars and Leo in the 12th and I said, you know, I so I had this conversation with her. I'll just make it really simple. I said, what we want as parents, all parents, you know, if they really care about their kids, they want you to emulate all the best qualities and leave the ones that aren't so great. And she understood that. And I said, for example, when I get really grumpy and I'm more irritable and I'm not as patient, I don't want you to have that. I want you to have my patience and blah, blah, blah, you know. So we were talking about this, and she said, yeah. She said, You know, it's really hard, because she said, when you get really angry with me and frustrated with me, then it feels like your anger stays in me for a little while, and then it's my and then it's my anger. And I don't like that. I was like, wow, that is, wow.
Dana Solana
That's gonna stay with you for a long time. Like,
Adam Elenbaas
Oh, yet, you know, like, such a I was like, Oh, just almost wanted to cry. Just broke my heart, you know. But I also recognize that, like, and I don't mean any disrespect to my parents, it was a different time as a different generation. I never had a conversation like that once with my parents, you know what I mean, where there was like, let's talk about the best of me and the not so best of me and try to take some accountability and let her talk about her experience of me like I have to take trust in the fact that these conversations will do good, and hopefully more good than the difficulties of my own defects, you know, but these are the kinds of things that come up with the 12th house Mars. You know? It's these explorations of things that you don't always know where they're coming from. They're part of you, but they might be part of your dad, they might be part of your family. They might be a part of someone at school that you know tripped you in gym class. There's a boy who tripped her in gym class, right? And I it took like an hour for me to figure out she was so mad and treating everyone so poorly. And I said, What's wrong? And she finally broke down crying, saying, this kid tripped me at gym class, and I've been really angry ever since. That's a 12th house, Mars, right there. You know what I mean?
Dana Solana
Yeah, come on to that? Yeah,
Adam Elenbaas
she's a Sagittarius, and so she's super fiery as well. And I feel like part of the journey for sadges that I've noticed anyway. And maybe Alex can tell us whether this is true or not, with a little sad in your chart is that you're you, you wield fire. And so it's like, gotta make sure you figure out how to be a passionate, charismatic person that knows how to deal with frustration, because the fire will burn you when you're frustrated, you know,
Alex Amorosi
yeah, or the fire will come out in a really bad way. Trust. Up the fire, then you're breathing fire sometimes, and that's, yeah, become mother and dragons, yeah, totally
Adam Elenbaas
okay. Well, let's move on to Libras, and we will pass the torch here to Dana, and we're looking at Jupiter Saturn, and we have to pick up our pace a little bit. I'm noticing, since we're moving shorter to our deadline today for time for all of us.
Dana Solana
Okay, I'll go quick Libra risings. You know I love you because I am you. And if this is going to be weird, maybe, but bear with me. The first thing that came to my mind when I started thinking about Libras was the phrase a crisis of confidence. And I'm like, Okay, I've heard that before. What is that? I look it up, speech by Jimmy Carter, uh, also known as the malaise. Speech like the the malaise of the American spirit. I'm not trying to make this about politics, although for you, Libra is like man might be. But I think that phrase came to my mind for a reason, because we've got jupiter in the ninth your spiritual views, your philosophies, your operating principles, you're learning and growing right now in that realm of your life. And then you got Saturn in the sixth house that says, shit might be hard right now. It might feel hard. And it made me think about, like, the question of evil, right? Like, if there's a benevolent god or source or creator, like, how can evil exist? Like, these big questions might be coming up for Libras. I really want to lean into this spiritual kind of exploration that I'm doing in the ninth but my daily life feels really hard, and I'm looking around, I'm seeing it's hard for other people. So what do I do with that? I think that's the friction that this square is speaking to. And then you've got Mars in the 11th house. So thinking about like the 11th being the house of your ambition, or like the thing that you're striving toward. You might be unsure about that right now. You might be questioning, what is that arrow pointing to? Like, I thought I was going in this direction, and now I'm not so sure. And that could be, you know, linked to this kind of philosophical questioning that's going on with the square that we were just talking about. It might also be about like, is this where I belong? Like I'm in this group of people, and I don't know if we vibe like I don't know if we're really in alignment the way that I thought we were. Is this what I want? And knowing that Mars is going back into the 10th it does for me lean more to like, where am I going? But certainly like the people you surround yourself with are a part of that. So I think there's big questions looming for Libras right now, and as a fellow Libra rising, I would definitely suggest surrender, as someone who struggles mightily with that, I think specifically like surrender to the fact that you can't know everything, you can't have the question, or you can't have all the answers to all the questions. There are some questions that we just have to sit with and accept that they're unanswerable. Yeah, yeah. Oh, go ahead. Adam,
Adam Elenbaas
nope, that's fine. I
Alex Amorosi
just, I'll quickly say about Mars in the 11th what keeps coming to me about this for Libras is the king or the queen can have their council, and the council can give their input, but you're the king or the queen, and it's about executive decision making, about like and sometimes, you know, it can be very hard for Venus rule signs Libra, I think, in particular to say this is the decision I am making. And you're going to get a lot of peanut gallery around you, I think, at this time, and everybody can be vying for this Your Majesty, this Your Majesty, this Your Majesty, this Your Majesty. And you're like, okay, cool. Well, I have to make my own decision, and I think that might be something that's coming up around this
Adam Elenbaas
too. Yeah. I love that. I love that a change in philosophy may be closely connected to changes within groups or communities and questions about power, leadership, influence within them. Yeah, keep it simple there. All right, let's move on to Scorpio. I've got Scorpio. So we're going to look at Mars Retrograde in your 10th, and the Jupiter Saturn square across your eighth And fifth, starting off with Mars Retrograde in the 10th. I've noticed in the charts of my clients over the years that a Mars Retrograde in the 10th will often coincide with your boss changing. It's like a weirdly specific thing, but it's almost like, who wields the power or authority in the workplace going through some kind of change. It can also be about changes or shifts in the power dynamics within a workplace. And sometimes it's not like, I know it sounds weird, because you think a Mars Retrograde would only mean difficulties. A lot of people, we think that way about Retrogrades, but a reversal of circumstances such that you have more leadership or responsibility than you had before, and you have to adapt or adjust to that is not out of the question. Here, as you also may be stripped of some level of power or responsibility and feel frustrated by it, so we can kind of go in either direction, also what motivates you and what you are feeling passionate about in your career. You might be going through some changes with Mars, also retrograding back into the ninth I think these changes in career will be linked to ongoing explorations around philosophy beliefs, almost like a bit of an existential and spiritual crisis that might be closely linked to transformation of your work. The other piece here is the Jupiter Saturn square. Jupiter and Saturn together in this house, these two houses for people who are parents, and I know not everyone who listens as a parent, but for those of you who are, I could see this being very much about the way that you and a spouse are shifting or changing parenting approaches, strategies, philosophies, making decisions about how to allocate funds. Maybe you're getting ready to send a kid to preschool and you're trying to get the budget together to do it, whatever the case may be, I could see there being a lot of emphasis on the cooperative dimension of parenting. That's very specific. So let me back up and talk about one other thing. I also think that Saturn, in the fifth house, will at its worst, will present us with real inhibitions or like restrictions around pleasure or around create, creative expression. And I just wonder if some of like for Scorpios are your own fears or inhibitions or worries or anxieties or difficulties accessing pleasure, keeping you from possibilities and playfulness that other people are trying to bring in and almost like is there, is there an opportunity to open yourself more, to let other people bring in some dimension of flexibility or freedom or fun that maybe you're having a hard time trusting. On the other hand, if there's reasons not to trust someone or something, you know, then you got to stick stick with those doubts or suspicions. If someone's trying to bring something into your life, and you know that you have a hard time being moderate with it, well, that's a different situation entirely, right? But yeah, that those are some of the things that come to my mind. What do you guys think?
Alex Amorosi
Just, I think I see Saturn in Pisces dovetailing off that Adam Saturn and Pisces reminds me sometimes of um, Father Mapple from Moby Dick. You know, you have to obey God. And to obey God is hard because you have to disobey yourself. And it gets really like tense, just like, okay, dude, go on the ship now. But there's something where you could be getting that sense of like it this is all. Everything just gets really intense and hard and difficult, and someone just comes in and says, We need to go to a paint class and just chill out. But what that will require is letting go of some of the control, just letting go some of the control of feeling like, you know, I have to dig down and hold on and get the before I can have any fun, I have to figure it all out. Sometimes you don't. Sometimes you just have to go for a walk, or you have to, you know, do something fun and let your mind go blank for a little while and things come to you. So just noticing that if the grip is getting really tight, that playfulness, I think, is a really important antidote this month. Nice, yeah,
Dana Solana
similar to what you both have said, I'm thinking about how Jupiter and the eighth suggests that any kind of stuckness or restriction we're feeling in the fifth house can be there's expansion through other people, that maybe if we can learn to lean on the people who were in partnership with, we can find a little more expansion. Also thinking about, like, sexual transcendence, like, I don't know it's there for me. I'm thinking about the fifth house. I'm thinking about the eighth house. Like, that's there. That's a part of this. Especially to thinking about like, the powerlessness in the 10th, the potential like, of course, that's not guaranteed, but the potential for feeling a little powerless or a little impotent in the 10th like, I think it's really important for Scorpios to try to lean on the people who can help them access that, that expressive kind of Yeah, that that self expression, that creativity, that could just really be an anti tote antidote to that feeling of powerlessness that might come up. Yeah, yeah.
Adam Elenbaas
Submission and surrender can be interpreted in many ways. Yes, so
Alex Amorosi
long, it can be pretty fun.
Adam Elenbaas
Okay, let's move on to Sagittarius, where we have Jupiter and Saturn squaring in. In the seventh and fourth, and we have Mars retrograding in the ninth.
Alex Amorosi
Okay, so for Sagittarius, I think there may feel like, you know, without we are, you know, I'm a sad son, but I'll speak as a we, as the royal we here, um, are usually looking to the boundless hope of the horizon, and anything is possible, and definitely relationally right now that might be true. You know, it's with Jupiter in your seventh house, there might be this feeling of like boundless exploration and fun and enjoyment, and then Saturn, from the fourth exerts some kind of restraint on that. That may come from ancestral beliefs in Pisces. They may be ancestral religious or spiritual beliefs, or it could be an emotional history of the family, where it's like, I want to feel free and open and excited in my relationships, or in meeting people, or what, if you're in a committed relationship, exploring more fun in that. But there's a sense of weight from the past that holds you down a little bit. It could even be, I think sometimes with Pisces, too, I see a lot of nostalgia with Pisces, like there could be a comparison of current relationships to an image or an idealized image of the past that might be weighting you down a little bit. And then you have Mars moving into your ninth house, starting to retrograde in the ninth I could see the consideration of really wanting to move forward more ambitiously with, like, maybe a degree or some, some more higher education. It could be, it could be moving forward with, like a martial art, you know, some sort of, like spiritual martial principle that you're using to hone and develop your mind. But it may feel like you're being pulled back again into more of like a Is that okay for me to do based on my family, because Mars is actually heading back towards cancer? Is it okay for me to do based on the older, more deep emotional ties that I have from my past? So I see like the past and the future, and a little bit of a tension or conflict here this month, a lot of ways,
Dana Solana
that's really interesting. My husband's a Sagittarius, and that is very accurate. Like, for him, specifically, you had me thinking about Jupiter in the seventh as potentially the partner, though. Like, if you're in a partnership, like maybe there is, and you're living together, it could be that something is going well for your partner, and they are experiencing this expansion and growth of Jupiter, and you therefore are, like, picking up the slack at home, like, that's that responsibility in the home, and that can be frustrating, right? That can be it can be hard if it's if it goes on for a long time and you're not, you know, saying, hey, I need help. Or like, Hey, I I have boundaries. Like, I can't do it all for you, right? I like Mars Retrograde and the ninth verse sadge is then, like, with that in mind, as, all right? Well, like, what matters to me, like, what's most important to me, what do I have to prioritize for myself? So that, you know, I don't fall apart as I'm trying to help support everybody else interesting,
Adam Elenbaas
I could see this like just a super specific story that comes to my mind. You know when, let's say, when a, maybe a recently divorced single mother has to consider the reality of her children at the time that she's meeting someone interesting. Am I going to bring a new man around my kid? You know what I mean? Yeah, that there's things around home and family that may feel like they're putting a check on opportunities, or kind of expansive openness in relationships. And maybe there's, you know, maybe it's, it's kind of thing where, like, I've had clients before who have done this, where it's been like, well, you know, we're dating, and I'm not going to tell my kids until I know that it's substantive, you know, and then I'm going to tell them, and they'll meet, and then, you know, it's not going to be a thing where the person moves in right away. This is my boy. You know, it's like we're going to there's an incremental reframing of marriage and family that has to take place, and it has to take place over a long period of time. So gradualness comes to my mind for sadges. I don't think sag risings are the greatest when it comes to gradual things, incremental things, it's Jupiter, you know, right? It's like, let's go, you know. But Mars, also, the thing about Mars and Leo in the ninth to me is that, you know, sadges live with, there's a lot of pride, personal pride, that's placed in your convictions. It's like a huge creative outlet for sadges has to do with just expressing what you feel very passionately about, whether it's your beliefs or your ideas or even just a funny thought that comes to mind, or, you know, whatever it is. And I wonder right now, if there isn't, it's. Some need to accommodate other perspectives. And that, you know, if you're used to being like the life of the party, or you're used to being able to be kind of loud and big with your energy, even if you're a lovely person, you might face some pushback, and some need to sort of refine or, yeah, like, make your expression of will and belief, like, more socially adaptive, or something like that. Yeah, just an idea. On the other hand, I could just look at Mars in the ninth and think you're gonna be, you're gonna be, like, exploring what beliefs are effective in your life and which are not, you know, something like that. Yeah. Let's go to Capricorn and we'll hand off to Dana. We've got Mars Retrograde in the eighth, and we have the Jupiter Saturn square across six and three. Okay,
Dana Solana
so I'm thinking about Saturn in the third as having to be the one that does it all like you're picking up the kids from school. You're the one that's cleaning that like you are the responsible one. You're the one people are leaning on in the daily minutia of life. And that might be like, not super fun for you. You might be over that. It might have to do with siblings too. I always, I've been thinking about Jupiter in the third as, like my mom, when her mom passed, was the executor of the will, right? Like that was very Jupiter in the third, or, I'm sorry, Saturn in the third, having to be responsible for the siblings and rounding them up, Jupiter in the sixth tells me, though, that there is help, like knowing that the sixth house is a place that we think of as, you know, having to do hard things, and Jupiter being here, it's like, well, maybe, maybe you don't have to do it all, like, maybe you could ask for help, and maybe people are going to be there to help you. Maybe there's an easier way to do these hard things. Maybe there is, even with Saturn, like, maybe there's a way we can condense all of these several, many things we do over the day. And like, as we've been saying with Mars, work smarter, not harder. So I like the square as a moment where you say, All right, what can I let go of here? Like, how can I make things a little more simple, a little more easy? Thinking about Mars in the eighth I'm thinking about a clearing or a cleansing of like, how you merge with others and re considering or renegotiating your agreements. So something about the agreements you're a part of sort of standing out as, like, I don't know if I signed up for this. Like, I don't know about this. Is this? Is this what I want? Is this the right boundary between, like, what's mine and what's not? And I think that March retrograde will make it harder to demarcate those boundaries. So if you notice that the agreements are not quite what you wanted them to be, or not quite what you thought you signed up for, that's a good thing to notice, and that's a good thing to reflect on. And you may not know what the solution is right now, but it's a good thing to notice and kind of take note of and see what you can what you can arrive at as you reflect on that.
Alex Amorosi
You know, I think that for Capricorn, for Capricorn rising, sometimes the hard work is the experimenting with something you're not sure is going to work. You're not, you're not, you're not, you haven't tested you don't know that there's solid ground underneath it. And I think that Jupiter and Gemini will actually be the little fly in the ointment here, in a really interesting and fun way, where it's like the the impetus usually, is to push forward, do more, achieve more, go higher. And Jupiter and Gemini is just like, what if you did something completely different, you know, I think of Monty Python, you know, now, for something completely different, that kind of feeling for Capricorns can feel very unsteady and a little shaky, but it could make all the difference. I think that might actually be the hard work is just seeing like, Where can I loosen up a little bit? Where can I play? Where can I try something I've never tried before? And just what the hell yeah, yeah.
Adam Elenbaas
Um, I, I'm thinking about the possibility that some, let's just say, that Mars Retrograde in the eighth could mean that someone, or maybe a few people in your life that have been problematic are not going to be problematic anymore. Like when I think about Mars in the eighth one of the things that comes to my mind would be soul contracts with people that provide you with conflict. We all have them. We all have people in our lives that, for whatever reason, are sort of like our enemies. And none of us would probably say that's my enemy. You know, like everyone's been taught, we don't think of people as enemies. We're all very Christian in our culture, and so we don't think of people, but they are. They're like, that person gets my goat, or this particular individual is a thorn in my ass, whatever I think of them, I just get a little mad. Okay, so the reality is that people like that are. In our lives for reasons we don't always understand in time we sometimes do. But I wonder right now if certain soul contracts for Capricorns are about to get lighter and easier, or if you're about to be free from some of them because those people who have been problematic are leaving, or the contract's done. You're paying off a debt. It's just It's over. It's time for it to be finished. And that I I'm going to say, because I know someone personally who is a Capricorn rising and they will be completing a divorce around early December. And aside from division of assets, which they have all worked out their life is about to get significantly less stressful because of just dealing with this conflict all the time. And I'm like, that is perfect for a cap rising who has Mars about to station Trine retrograde, as they are releasing this conflicted relationship. So that's what had me think of it. But just an idea there to throw out. All right, let's move on to Aquarius. This is me, so I'll look at Mars Retrograde in the seventh with the Jupiter Saturn square across the second and fifth. So speaking of divorces, of course, Mars Retrograde in the seventh is known for bringing about conflict resolution, and sometimes that does mean the end of a relationship, like, how do you resolve the conflict? By going your separate ways? So it can mean that can also be about staying together and mediating or resolving conflicts, or learning how to balance the equation of power and will in relationships. Those are those would be very positive manifestations so things can express with Mars Retrograde in the seventh very differently from person to person, but an emphasis on power and relationships and how does the individual reality of each person and the collective reality of the relationship co how do they coexist? These are deep questions for Mars Retrograde in the seventh The other thing Saturn Jupiter brings to my mind would be a conversation about resources and creative fulfillment or happiness. You know it's like, it's hard to be happy if you don't feel like you have anything, if you're living with us with scarcity, if you're on the poverty line, or, you know, so there might be questions right now about, how do we build something that is sustainable and allows for a little bit more flexibility and fun in our lives and making some hard choices on how to prioritize time, money, energy, maybe what you're doing for a living, or how you earn or where you work, because there is a need to not live with a feeling of that, just that weighty, difficult struggle to survive all the time. On the other hand, I could see this also being about you have plenty, but you live as though you have nothing, because there's an anxiety. A lot of people have inherited that because they grew up in difficult conditions, and then it's hard, even when you have enough to think that you do. And so I read an article once that said that people who live with like $300,000 a year, and people who live with like $80,000 a year. The there was a test that was done on, like, how how comfortable and enjoyable the lifestyle is, and it's like they're they're comparable. But I would say that my sort of response to hearing about that study somewhere. This was maybe a couple years ago that I heard this was like, Yeah, but if you have, if you make $100,000 but you grew up on the poverty line, that 100,000 you may never be able to enjoy, you know, you may never you know it. So anyway, my point is just that this combination may also be about learning to trust that what you have is is enough and that you can trust and enjoy somehow what is what is present, as opposed to living with the other shoe may drop mentality.
Alex Amorosi
You know, I'm looking also at this Mars Retrograde in the seventh house, is there might be somebody in your life who could be in a relationship, someone you're dating, someone your life, who's passionately asserting themselves in some way, and they're advocating for a need. And I think it would be interesting to see, and important to see, how are they doing that? Are they doing it in a way that feels like it's like, okay, there's something I'm really passionate about and want to do here and expressing respectfully, or is it becoming disrespectful in some way? And there could, there could be both. I could see with Mars and Leo in the seventh house. And I think the impetus of the aquarium Aquarius is always to sort of look towards the connected systems of data and the community, and how is this working for everybody? And there might be some tensions here. Year this month, between the way you have a sensibility about like, the group and or the collective or the relationships, and somebody needling it a little bit by saying like, but this is what I need. This is what I'm looking for. And that could be an interesting tension that could produce a lot of wonderful, beneficial results, but it's just I would watch for how it's being presented and who presents it, who's presenting it in what way before? Yeah,
Dana Solana
I think what you both said is so important. Like, I actually just gave a reading to one of my best friends who Aquarius rising, and she said one of my biggest shadows, I guess, is like, or things I'm trying to work through is, like, this belief that I'm not fun. And I was like, well, good for you that Jupiter's in your fifth house right now. Like, now is the time to work through that. And I think what you said, Adam, about scarcity is, is really an important part of that too. Like, scarcity is not just about money, although certainly it can be in with in the second house. Like, yeah, we're talking about your assets and what you have, but like, your ability to approach life with an open hand and just kind of like meet the moment. I think if you're living in scarcity, you're that's hard to do. So that might be part of this is like learning how to just kind of open up to fun. And I think about the fact that Pluto's in your first house. Now, by the time we're getting this retrograde like the seventh house is where other people are mirrors. So, like Alex was saying, what are the assertive, dominant forces, people in your life, in your you know, periphery? What are they reflecting back to you about something that's trying to alchemize and your identity and your self concept.
Adam Elenbaas
Nice, good stuff. Let's move on to our final sign in Pisces and, oh, we forgot to start with Pisces today.
Alex Amorosi
Oh, my God, don't come for us. So sorry. They're gonna be so, so angry in their own little Pisces way,
Adam Elenbaas
dude, no, you're not. I have had so many people who were like, Thank you, you know. And messed it up. Dear.
Alex Amorosi
We love you. Pisces. We love you. We
Adam Elenbaas
are very sorry, and we will we will get we will do better. We can do better. We are going to listen. Fortunately, you've
Alex Amorosi
got Mars going retrograde in your six, so you can write Adam lots of comments.
Adam Elenbaas
I'm really sorry, guys. So Martin retrograde in your six, Saturn and Jupiter are square in your first and fourth. You always get the short end of the stick. Everything's bad, no, I'm just kidding. We will. We'll put you next or we'll put you first next month, and then we'll even do the month after that to make up. We'll do two in a row for Pisces rising,
Alex Amorosi
okay, Pisces, since we've established our genuine love for you, um, there's so Saturn in your first square, in Jupiter, in Jupiter, in your in your fourth, um, you know, I could see this is getting a little bit stuck in who you think you are and who you need to be, and maybe about, you know, Saturn in Pisces. I could see a little bit of getting kind of like caught in a melancholy or caught in a just kind of feeling, I don't know, you know, it's everything's just whatever that sort of kind of feeling. And Jupiter in the fourth house might be someone in your home, something from your past, something from your parents or your ancestry, that's just being like, Yeah, but the world is fun and exciting and enjoyable and yay. And there's a lot of stuff. It's like, I don't know, just like, can I be so, you know, there is a time to, and I don't mean this facetiously, but to write your poetry and to do your watercolors and to do all of that stuff, you know, to express out your feelings, of how you're feeling. There's also a time to, like, you know, to dance when nobody's watching, and to, you know, paint or write or just write things down that you just want to write, that don't have any necessary meaning behind it, but have a sense of fun expression. Dancing while nobody's watching is just a random example that I have never done myself before, but that just came back from Pisces, so that's just kind of what I'm going with. There any Mars, Mars with the sixth house retrograde, I would say that this is the beginning of something that might feel like it's going to take some tenacity to work through in that regard, and it might feel like that's you don't have the gas in the tank for the tenacity right around this retrograde. But don't worry, because that will come back in full force in mid April, when Mars moves back into Leo. So this just might be the beginning of that process for you? Yeah,
Dana Solana
I think about Saturn in the first and how Pisces risings have had to just put on your big people pants like you have really had to step up in terms of responsibility and just dealing with shit and Leo Mars Retrograde. And Leo, to me is saying, like, fuck it. Like, I can't, can't do it. I'm done goodbye. But as Alex said, like, I feel like it's really important to remember, like, this is like all things, like every moment, this is a temporary moment, and you know, it's okay to take a break. Like, look at it as like, I'm gonna take a break, I'm gonna step away, I'm going to put it down, and then I'll come back when I'm not overwhelmed, and definitely to lean on the the comfort, whether that's like your family, the people in your family, you know, taking a trip back to, like, a meaningful place that is nostalgic and sort of like fills your tank, fills your cup, but also tending to the inner sanctuary. You know, the fourth house is not necessarily like a spiritual place, but I do think about it as like the inner temple. And I think if you can, like, establish some kind of rituals that help you feel grounded in yourself, that will really help. Yeah,
Adam Elenbaas
I feel like with Mars Retrograde in the six this very specific kind of image or story comes to my mind where, you know, Pisceans are so sensitive and empathic, is the exaltation of Venus, and you are committed to people and to feeling and to harmony and Beauty, so such lofty qualities. There's nothing more puzzling than someone who just doesn't give a shit about you, right, who, like Mars Retrograde in the sixth house. Could be someone in your life. Maybe it's but someone who's been there for a while, who's like, yeah, I don't care about you. I don't care about your feelings. I don't care but I care about me. And for I've noticed that, you know, Pisceans will often have to deal with. This is an aversion between Leo and Pisces. This there's, you know, what a person like that is doing, in addition to being a pain in the ass and someone that you probably don't need in your life, right? Is they're holding, in some ways, up a mirror to you and saying, don't be so caring, so empathic that you lose track of what is actually good for you and who is actually a good fit for you, and what you actually deserve and what you don't deserve. You know what I mean. And then you you kind of you can get this empowerment from such people where you go. It hurt. It crushes you at first to think that someone could walk all over you, treat you like a doormat. But then, in a weird way, you may find it empowering to be like, no, why can't I be strong? You know, like, this person's gonna be self centered. I can be a good person, and I can be a healthy kind of self centered, you know, in a self and centered kind of way. So I think about that as maybe a lesson coming through somehow for Pisceans right now. Love that kind
Alex Amorosi
of like the empath, narcissist type thing,
Adam Elenbaas
yeah, yeah. That's Yes, yes, exactly. We're going to stop it there, because we are, we are out of time. Thank you everybody for listening. I want to tell you how you can connect with Dana and Alex. So Dana can be found at self help, which.com you can also find her on Instagram at self help, which book a reading with her. Check out what she's up to, all of the latest. And then for Alex, it is Alex amorosi.com or you can book a reading check out his newsletter. Alex Amorosi, healing on Instagram. Great people to follow. And if you like their content here, then I highly recommend checking out what they're up to, getting a reading with them to help you unpack some of these transits. That is it for us. We will be back the next time we see you. We were looking at a new year, and, yeah, we'll be looking at we, maybe I will, maybe we'll even do like a live stream together for horoscopes to end the Kickstarter or something like that. Yeah, that'd be fun. Well, thank you everybody for listening. Thank you Alex and Dana and we will see you all again next time. Bye, everyone bye, everybody
Dana Solana
bye.
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