The Secret Wisdom of Jupiter’s Opposition to Pluto

Hey everyone. This is Adam Elenbaas from Nightlight Astrology [https://nightlightastrology.com/].

Today we're going to take another look at Jupiter's upcoming opposition to Pluto, which is forming in the next days. We're going to take a look at this from the standpoint of the ancient and somewhat secretive relationship between Zeus and Hades, or Jupiter and Pluto, the Roman names. Did you know that they were brothers, and they share a kind of secret affinity for one another that not a lot of astrologers talk about, at least not that I've ever been aware of, but James Hillman spent time talking about this.

He's an archetypal psychologist, his son is an astrologer, he was a student of Jung, and Liz Green also talks about it in one of her recent books that she just wrote on the planet Jupiter. So we're going to take a look at these things today, and I'm going to hopefully give you a way of thinking about this opposition that you have not heard before, or at least a new take that might give you just a little something different. To me, this is one of the biggest transits of the year, and so I think it's worth covering from a variety of different angles. That's what we're going to do today.

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All right, on that note, let's now illustrate this upcoming opposition, so we can see that Jupiter here, and we're talking today on Thursday, july 16. It is my birthday today. As you are listening to this, I am probably acting like the king of my own little castle for 24 hours, which is my favorite day of the year, except for, I don't know, maybe Christmas, Halloween, I don't know. Yeah, no, it's my birthday anyway.

So, Jupiter's opposite Pluto, that'll be an interesting solar return signature, and we're going to advance this just by a couple of days, and notice that the exact opposition between Jupiter and Pluto forms between July 20 and 20-first, so that's just a few days away, and we are closing in on this very powerful opposition. Now, don't forget that we're also going to see Jupiter, Jupiter's combust, the reset of Jupiter's synodic cycle is happening, and, oh, guess what, that reset, that Casimi moment, which is the new part, that the starting point of Jupiter's new cycle with the sun that coincides with a full moon that is conjoined with Pluto, just just past the opposite, the conjunction with Pluto, and that full moon with Pluto will be exactly opposite Jupiter Casimi. That is a huge full moon, very powerful signature around a full moon, July 29.

So, as we stand here today on the 16th, we're closing in on one of the bigger full moons of the year, probably the biggest, and we're coming up on a Jupiter Cazimi, Jupiter's opposite Pluto, really, really intense stuff. Now today, what I want to do is share with you some perspectives on the ancient relationship between Zeus and. And Pluto, or Zeus and Hades, I should say, which you may not be aware of, but actually is really fascinating. So, first I want to do is, well, actually, I'm going to take it in this order. I've got five things to watch for, and we're going to break - we're going to break Jupiter, Pluto's opposition down through some passages from Liz Green and James Hillman that I think really nicely highlight the meaning of Zeus that most people don't know, and, and the meaning of Hades, and then the meaning of the two.

So, by the way, the books I'm reading from today, by Jove, the meaning of astrological Jupiter by Liz Green, this came out just recently. It's based on a talk that she did, I think it's a transcript of a talk there, a web seminar she gave, or something, and it is absolutely fantastic. I think everything Liz Green writes is amazing, but I would highly recommend this book if you want maybe a deeper dive on Jupiter than anyone's ever written. To my knowledge, I really can't think of anyone who's done it better at this point than this book, anyway.

Here's what she says. Now she's talking about the Orphics and their thoughts on Zeus. The Orphics were kind of a religious, mystical group in the ancient world, you know. They practiced astrology. The Orphic poem, cited by the Dervini author assigns a special role to Zeus. Let me put my first point up. That's strikingly different from the petulant lascivious son of Kronos, who rules the heavens from Olympus. In the poem, Zeus is described as divine mind or noose. His immortal breath, or pneuma, is called fate, or Moira, and he has always existed long before he was given a name.

The Da Vinci author quotes the following passages from the poem, which, based on its language structure, is understood by scholars to have been written in the fifth century BCE, or possibly even earlier, at least a century before the Darwini author himself was born. Now this is the poem. Now Orpheus named this breath Moira, for before Zeus received his name, Moira was the wisdom of the god always and through everything. Moira is one of the names given to fate, and Liz Green also wrote a book called The Astrology of Fate, where she discusses Moira and fate in astrology at length. That's a really good book. Here she says fate is thus the wisdom of Zeus.

Now that's our Jupiter, his divine breath, and according to the Draveny Papyrus, it's inherent in all things and shapes their nature, their limits, their purpose, and their ultimate destiny, according to the divine plan. In the work of the fifth century BCE philosopher Empedocles, who seems to have been strongly influenced by Orphic ideas, Zeus is one of the four roots or primal cosmic powers. He's equated with the root of air. Air in Orphic thought isn't the same as the Aristotelian sublunar element of air, which comprises one of the four astrological triplicities we use in chart interpretation. Orphic air is the divine mind, the essence, intention, and plan of the cosmos, and everything within it.

It's roughly equivalent to the Christian idea of divine providence, because everything is part of and infused by his divine breath. Zeus is and knows everything, past, present, and future. Fate, or Moira, in this context is identical to teleology, the unique nature of a thing. Telos means like the end, the end or end toward which something is aimed or fulfilling its purpose, like the acorn has the oak tree sort of latent within it. So fate, or Moira, in this context is identical to teleology, the unique nature of a thing, its essence, its boundaries and limits, its purpose and its destiny to become what it innately is. This idea was expressed by the sixth century BCE Greek philosopher Heraclitus, who stated a man's character is his fate, by the late 18th century German Romantic poet Novalis, who declared that fate and character are the same conception, and in modern times, in James Hillman's acorn theory about the development of the human personality, an acorn can only become an oak tree, not a cherry tree or a cabbage, because that's its intrinsic nature, and its nature is the same as its destiny.

Each of us can only become what we essentially are, which is both our fate and our teleology. For air, this is quoting the poem again. For air existed even before the things that are now were set together and always will exist, for it was not born but existed. The wisdom of Zeus ordains how things that are and the things that come to be and the things that are going to be must come to be and be and cease. Zeus, the king, Zeus, who. Rules all with the bright bolt, so what what Liz Green is saying here, first and foremost, that we don't often think about when we think about Jupiter, because we think of words like expansion, and we think of words like abundance, or the great benefic, the bestower of blessings, all of which are are fine, but what she's pointing out is that philosophically Zeus Jupiter was associated with the fact that everything in the cosmos is playing out according to the destiny of its inherent nature and having to fulfill what it inherently is now.

Now, that is a lot to think about when it comes to thinking about Jupiter, Zeus in astrology, but the first thing it means is that in any major Jupiter dynamic, what something is meant to be, the destiny inherent within it, the meaning and purpose for which it exists is in the process of becoming fulfilled, but if you think about the way that plants grow, you know, some of them grow up through concrete. It's a classic image that we like to use. Plants grow around things, they take interesting paths to their blossom, and it's at certain times in our life, we were less aware of others that we are in the process of becoming what we innately are. Sometimes we lose track of that. Sometimes we can't see the purpose. We go to astrologers, saying, "What's my purpose?

Jupiter transits, powerful Jupiter transits, are not just positive, they're not just good things are going to happen, promotions are going to be had, money is going to come in, fame or success is going to be had, unless it's your destiny, but when we think about Jupiter as ruling the process by means of which we come to understand and know and find the meaning for which we were born, especially on the level of coherent meaningfulness that we can consciously understand that we can have some wisdom or gnosis about some actual knowing. Jupiter transits are paramount. When a Jupiter transit comes along, there's often a lot of difficult things that happen, but rarely do those difficult things not come along with the sense that what something is meant to be, and the fate associated with its inherent nature and character and destiny is unfolding. This is why I think sometimes people have a hard time with Jupiter transits.

People go, that Jupiter transit was hard, yeah, but when a Jupiter transit comes by, if you're a lover of wisdom, right, if you, if you love understanding, if you love knowing something in your heart and soul, Jupiter transits are great for showing you meaning, purpose, and for giving you a coherent sense of understanding about something, and that is the case whether something's working out in your favor or something is happening that you don't really love, but the lover of wisdom sees Zeus as providing that coherent sense of meaning and purpose, and that's something I can promise you, if you practice it with Jupiter transits, you will start to see it. Don't look for Jupiter transits in as much as you look for them to deliver positive things that you want, but understanding about what things inherently are, or what things meanings, the meaning or purpose behind something is.

When a Jupiter transit comes by, and you train your eye to see that, it's.. it really is remarkable how your view and understanding of Jupiter will change positively. You'll, you'll start feeling like, oh, this is a benefic, but it's a benefic insofar as it provides me with wisdom, and that living sense of understanding things does not always come just through positive benefic events. Now, there's a whole separate side of Jupiter that can and often does provide sort of fertile growth-oriented, you know, blessings and benefits. There is just kind of a mundane, generically fortunate Jupiter that comes along too, that they can both be real, but the reason that I think this transit is more likely to be along the Orphic lines, that sense of meaning, coherence, destiny, which we also call fate.

See, it's funny because we were really comfortable with the word destiny. We don't love the word fate. I think most people hear the word fate and think, oh God, it's outside of my control, and it feels like something, a force acting on me, whereas destiny feels like it's confirming something within me, but Zeus, Jupiter was associated with fate, the fates with Moira, and so Jupiter transits show us that destiny is the living intelligence of the cosmos. Destiny is not just a feel-good story. Destiny is a meaningfulness that keeps arriving and expanding our heart and mind. Our heart expands with our mind if, when we understand something, it enlivens our heart and soul. That these are choices we make when the teacher in living intelligence of the cosmos, Zeus Jupiter, who is also called guru in Indian astrology, comes along and sort of blesses us with perspective.

When something doesn't work out, but you understand this wasn't its nature to work out in the way I thought it would, that is enlightenment. It doesn't always feel that way. So, for that's first, and that's that is by and large what that book by Jove is about. So, if you're like, "Wow, this is an interesting way of thinking about Zeus Jupiter that maybe I've never heard before, check that book out, read the whole thing, it's so good. All right. Well, part two today is now let's talk about Hades, so if I can find it, hold on, let me pause. All right, got it. Now I'm going to read you something about Hades, and then something about Zeus, Jupiter, and Hades that you may not know. They were brothers.

So this is from James Hillman's book, The Dream and the Underworld. James Hillman, it is an absolutely fantastic book. It will completely enrich and change your perspective, especially on Hades Pluto. Here he is talking about Hades in a chapter, chapter called Psyche. Hades was, of course, the god of depths, the god of invisibles, he is himself invisible, which could imply that the invisible connection is Hades, and that the essential what that holds things in their form is the secret of their death. And if, as Heraclitus said, nature loves to hide, then nature loves Hades. Hades is said to have had no temples or altars in the upper world, and his confrontation with it is experienced as a violence, a violation.

He is so invisible, in fact, that the entire collection of Greek antique art shows no ideal portrait of Hades, such as we are familiar with of other gods. He had no representative attributes, except an eagle, which brings out his shadowy affiliation with his brother Zeus.

He leaves no trace on earth, for no clan descends from him, and no generations. Hades' name was rarely used at time. He was referred to as the unseen one, more often as Pluto, wealth, riches, or Trophonios, nourishing. These disguises of Hades have been taken by some interpreters to be covering euphemisms for the fear of death, but then why this particular euphemism and not some other? Perhaps Pluto is a description of Hades, much as Plato understood this god. Then Pluto refers to the hidden wealth or the riches of the invisible. Hence, we can understand one reason why there was no cult and no sacrifice to him, Hades was the wealthy one, the giver of nourishment to the soul. Sometimes he was fused with Thanatos, death of whom Aschleus wrote, "Death is the only god who loves not gifts and cares not for sacrifices or libation, who has no altars and receives no hymns.

On Vas paintings, when When Hades is shown, he may have his face averted, as if he were not even characterized by a specific physiognomy. All this negative evidence does coalesce to form a definite image of a void, an interiority or depth that is unknown but nameable, there and felt, even if not seen, Hades is not an absence, but a hidden presence, even an invisible fullness. So, do you see, as we're going along, you can start to imagine what a Jupiter-Pluto opposition might bring - a sense of meaning, purpose, coherence, destiny, and fate that reveals something invisible, that reveals something that has not been seen or that was not previously known or recognized, something that was felt but not articulated.

So, what a very powerful potential moment of destiny, understanding, and wisdom that can emerge when these two planets get together. Etymological investigations into the root word for death, demon, show it to mean hider. To grasp better the ways in which Hades hides invisibly in things, let us take apart this concept, listening for the hidden connections, the metaphors within the word hidden itself, buried, shrouded, concealed from eyesight, whether a corpse, or a mysterium, occult, esoteric, concealed in the sense of secret, that which per se cannot be seen, non-visible, as non-spatial, non-extended, without light, dark, black, that which cannot be seen on inspection, i.e. blocked, censored, forbidden, or obscured.

Hidden as contained within interior, or as contained below inferior, or the Latin cella, subterranean store room, is cognate with the old Irish cule, cellar, and cell death, again cognate with our hell, that which is experienced with dread and terror, avoid a nothing, that which is experienced as hiding, withdrawing, turning away from life, stealth, surreptitiousness, deceit, such as the hidden motives and unseen connections of Hermes. In short, Hades, the hidden hider, presides over both the crypt and cryptic, which gives to Heraclitus phrase, 'Nature loves to hide, a subtle and multiple implication, indeed.

Some say that the cap or helmet Hades wears belongs primarily to Hermes and may have little or nothing to do with Hades. This hat is a curious phenomenon. Hermes wears it, Hades wears it, Athene puts it on to beat Ares and Perseus to overcome the Gorgon. It makes its wearer invisible, evidently, the explicit image of connection between Hermes and Hades announced in the Homeric Hymn to Hermes is the headdress. Hermes and Hades share a certain style of covering their heads that both hides their thoughts and perceives hidden thoughts. It is their intentions that become invisible. We cannot perceive where their heads are at, though we may have the sense of a hidden watch over our inmost thoughts, because we can never discover what their covert minds intend. We consider them deceptive, unpredictable, frightening, or wise.

When we consider the House of Hades, we must remember that the myths, and Freud too, tell us that there is no time in the underworld, there is no decay, no progress, no change of any sort. Because time has nothing to do with the underworld, we may not conceive the underworld as after life, except as the afterthoughts within life. The house of Hades is a psychological realm now, not an eschatological realm later. It is not a far-off place of judgment over our actions, but provides that place of judging now, and within the inhibiting reflection interior to our actions. This simultaneity of the underworld with the daily world is imaged by Hades coinciding indistinguishably with Zeus.

This is the part that I think gets really interesting for us here, this This simultaneity of the underworld with the daily world is imaged by Hades coinciding indistinguishably with Zeus, or identical with Zeus Kethonios. The brotherhood of Zeus and Hades says that upper and lower worlds are the same, only the perspectives differ. There is only one in the same universe, coexistent and synchronous, but one brother's view sees it from above and through the light, the other from below and into its darkness. Hades realm is contiguous with life, touching it at all points, just below it, the Shadow Brother doppelganger, giving to life its depth and its psyche.

This is really beautiful, because now what we're saying is that actually both Zeus and Hades share a relationship to the fate of something, to that which something is meant to become, in the case of Jupiter, and to that sense of the inevitable death that is also the fate of all living things, so Pluto speaks to the eventual shadow or underside of life having power of destiny. There is a destined way that all of us are meant to die, as much as there is a destined way in which all of us are meant to live, and so an opposition between these two planets can be just so powerful because it can expose the destiny of something's life and death simultaneously. The purpose it serves is in the death that comes to it, and the death that comes to it serves its meaning. This talking now about personal experiences of fate, personal experiences of destiny.

Excuse me, I have such bad allergies during the summer. I was just out in the garden, so because his realm was conceived at the final, as the final end of each soul, Hades is the final cause, the purpose, the very telos of every soul, and every soul process. If so, then all psychic events have a Hades aspect, as the finest, as the finality is Hades. So, the Telos is Hades. See how now he's basically saying Zeus, we were just talking about as Telos, but because they're brothers, they actually both represent the same thing, but from different perspectives. We, we think from our sunny side of life, from the life side of life, we think I'm here to live a certain meaning, a certain destiny. From Pluto's perspective, you are here to die a certain death, you are here to. Let go of something.

Jupiter says you're here to fulfill something. Jupiter, Pluto says you're here to release something. Notice the modern evolutionary astrological perspective that says you have desires that are being in the process of being exhausted. The Pluto point in your chart is part of where desire is currently being exhausted, which means certain desires have come here to die, to be relinquished, to be let go of, and that will be not just the way you live, but the process of living with those desires and dying to them, and then literally dying. All of the ancient esoteric, you know, enlightenment, quote unquote, traditions have this perspective that the soul is as much here to experience a process of disillusionment from all of its ambitions and goals and achievements, which will end up being hollow in our death, as much as the Zeus, Jupiter, upper-day world perspective that says you're here to live into purposes and destinies and sort of heroically fulfill them with their brothers, upper world and lower world, two sides of the same coin.

By the call to Hades, I am referring to the sense of purpose that enters whenever we talk about soul. What does it want? What is it trying to say? Where is my fate or individual process going? If we stare those questions in the face, of course, we know where our individuation process is going to death. This unknowable goal is the one absolutely sure event of the human condition. Hades is the unseen one, and yet absolutely present. A true finalistic psychology will show its end in its means. We will be able to see its end goal of death in the methods it uses to work towards it. Therefore, to live fully into the consequences of the finalistic view means to bear the perspective of Hades and the underworld toward each psychic event. We ask, what is the purpose of this event for my soul, for my death?

Such questions extend the dimension of depth without limit. And again, psychology is pushed by Hades into an imperialism of soul, reflecting the imperialisms of his kingdom and the radical dominion of death. Now, that might have felt heavy, and to some of you, you know, I don't know, maybe it was even boring, but what, what strikes me about that is that there are decidedly two perspectives, right? And it's, it's very common, it's very common to see people privileging one over the other. My life is temporary, I'm going to die someday. What's the use getting invested in all the drama, and then, of course, the day world people that find great heroic promise and purpose in the world say you're checking out, you're bypassing, you're thinking about death, you're thinking about infinity, you're thinking about eternity, you're thinking about, you know, your own mortality and death and impermanence, but you're doing so at the cost of living, you know, into the oak tree that you're meant to become in this lifetime.

So that's Zeus protesting toward Hades. Hades, on the other hand, says to Zeus, well, you're you're living for delusional forms of temporary heroism that will pass away just as surely as planet Earth itself will pass away, as sure as the cosmos itself will perish, and all of it will have been like a bubble rippling up on a river in infinity, but you go on with your heroic, delusional, ego-tripping states of grandeur. I'm sure that all of your purposes are just so necessary and important. You see how they can get into a power struggle with one another quite easily, but really they're two perspectives of the exact same thing, and this is found in many mystical traditions that a Jupiter-Pluto opposition says, What is your purpose in this lifetime, some sense of meaning, coherence, a developmental story arc that you're living into that has, that has a sense of unity behind it, that you're growing, that your, your heart and mind are expanding, you know, and that life is carrying you towards some end, enlightenment, or an end in this lifetime, an ambition, a purpose, a mastery, whatever it is, fame, money, all sorts of things people want, and that they feel life is carrying them toward, and when they're successful, they love it.

If they're not, they curse their stars. On the other hand, we have this awareness, and it tends to set in as we age, that says death is the ultimate perspective that orients the remainder of life, and people always say this when some tragedy happens. They say it puts everything into perspective, perspective. In other words, you've just gone into the Hades perspective. So these are brothers. Zeus, we see light, providence, destiny, order, meaning, coherence, ambition, fulfillment. In Pluto, we see impermanence, darkness, depth, mortality, and eternality. But they're not. Hades is not the opposite of destiny. Haiti is destiny. Hades is destiny experienced from within the perspective of impermanence and death.

Now they're really two faces of one teleology. So again, Jupiter says, like, what's my life becoming? What meaning is emerging? What vision is calling me? And Pluto says, what must die? What illusions must be surrendered? What does what desires must be relinquished? What stripping back or pulling away or purging needs to happen? What deeper necessity informed by mortality and death is being facilitated? Jupiter tends to see destiny as possibility, Pluto tends to experience it as necessity, but they're they're describing the same process from different ends. Now, when they meet in an opposition, we therefore have something really interesting happening. We have let's talk about one pulling in one direction and then one in the other. We have the perspective of meaning overcoming death, things that would try to drag us down, things that would try to almost like things that may feel like bitter pills to swallow, deep, dark, difficult, heavy realities that Jupiter has to rise up and meet somewhat heroically, finding its meaning and purpose by circumnavigating the forces of darkness and depth and fear and death, and if so, there's a heroic rising up that Jupiter may do right now, but on the other hand, Jupiter's purpose may be informed by a deeper, darker perspective.

Jupiter may, and remember, Jupiter is going through combustion and casimia, death and rebirth. Jupiter's sense of meaning is now being informed by death.

Jupiter's sense of meaning is being informed by light coming to places that were not seen previously. It's if there's a kind of immature Marvel comic book reading heroic ego in us, it could get informed by a much deeper, heavier, weightier, I don't know, less simplistic view of things, not to pick on Marvel, because I loved Spider-Man as a kid, you know, so they're different perspectives facing off now. Here's one thing that I think could come up with you, really for me. It does, anyway, could come up for you too, which is if destiny, fate, teleology is always operating. If it's always present, then what is this? Just a more fated moment than others? Is this a more destined moment than others, but the astrology is not what's creating destiny. It reveals it, and it mirrors it, and it signifies it.

Destiny is continuous, it's always happening, fate is always happening, karma is always happening, but consciousness of destiny, of fate, is moment by moment, it's episodic. By episodic, what we mean is there are moments where we recognize and are more conscious of destiny and fate than others, from either Pluto's perspective or Jupiter's perspective. Sometimes we're more conscious than at other times that there is meaning and purpose and direction and vision and a plan, very Jupiter. At other times, we're deeply aware of impermanence and darkness and depth and the unconscious, and you know, the eventual, the eventual deconstruction of all things, and it informs our view and become much more aware of it, but we can't stay in that awareness 24/7 Krishna, in the Bhagava Gita says, I am both remembrance and forgetfulness.

There's something about the cosmos that needs to be living beings that need to be awake and asleep, awake and asleep, forgetting and remembering. So these planetary moments are actually moments of very powerful life. like, like noetic, and kind of, yeah, noetic, let's call it noetic disclosure, that it's a moment where something that has been always true now becomes visible, a meaning that's always there becomes perceptible, it's like you know, if there were clouds and fog over mountains in the morning in a valley, but when the clouds part, you're there's, there's the mountains, they're right there, you can see them, the, it's not that, in other words, it's not that this moment is more.

Filled with purpose than any other moment, it's that this moment is likely for many of us to be more involved, more conscious awareness of of it, more conscious awareness of the meaning of things, the fate of things, the sense of direction and purpose, the destiny behind things, and a reality check with the Pluto principle that comes in as a part of it. What deeper? So, last but not least, what do we do? So, I come up with some prompts. You've heard me on this channel talk many times about holding the tension of opposites. Jupiter without Pluto is idealistic. Pluto without Jupiter can be cynical or despairing, but together, in holding their tension, they can be really wise. Each of us can hold that wisdom. It's meaning that comes in and through darkness, it's faith that survives death and deconstruction, or purging. It's vision, along with surrender, so with Jupiter, I think we unconsciously ask, what does destiny have for me?

You know, what's people get so excited about Jupiter transit, what does destiny have for me? But right now, a better question, given Jupiter and Pluto, would be what deeper purpose and meaning that I haven't been able to see is revealing itself. What part of me is being asked to mature so that a vision can be fulfilled, and what must I give up or surrender to be what I am meant to be? So these two planets don't need to argue, although the temptation will be there for us, and I guarantee you it'll happen for a lot of us to favor Jupiter or Pluto's perspective. The two will come up. The perspective that each offers will feel very polarizing, and we'll make that classic mistake of being like, well, I picked Pluto, it's more realistic. Well, I picked Jupiter, it's more optimistic, you know. Don't pick a don't pick it all.

Hold, hold the tension, experience the tension, and the more we hold it, especially with love and care and tenderness and curiosity and humility, it opens, and there's treasure inside.

I mean, riches for Pluto, remember, hidden riches and for Jupiter, the god of abundance. So, it's quite something to put these two together. And I hope today this offered you some vital, nourishing, deep perspective. Hey, I hope you're having a good day today, and I hope that the content on this channel is just something positive in your life, that it does something good, and I'm just a little, a little guy, a little fella in the big grand scheme of things, but I love this kind of stuff. I love talking about this kind of stuff, and I love sharing it with you guys. So, anyway, hope you're having a good one. We'll see you again tomorrow. Bye.